I was wondering how long it would take for one of Cyrena’s
groupies to come to her defense. And, furthermore, if Todd
left, that’s Todd’s responsibility, not mine! You’re little group
loves to dish it out, but none of you seem to be able to take it!
I have had Cyrena call me (and others) every name in the book.
She has said she wanted to kick my ass as well. One of the things
I’ve noticed about your little group, including Pastor Wright,
is that you always try to shift the responsibility for your actions,
and hate speech to someone else. Maybe if you people took
responsibility for what you say and do, you might empower
yourselves, rather than putting your power in the hands of
everybody else ... it’s so transparent and disingenuous.
I’ve also noticed that your sense of political correctness
(which changes from time to time) transcends
the truth (which is eternal) ... and,that’s really nauseating.

Re: Lee

“They intimidate everyone using a divide and conquer strategy.  As long as we live apart, work apart and in general stay apart their strategy works.  They create fictitious fears and use intimidation to achieve their goals.  In reality they are afraid, some of them even believe their own rhetoric.”

Odd how of all people YOU would call Cyrena an “in your face” kind of person.  All you’ve done here, Lee is try to create contentions.  In fact “todd” quit posting because of your nastiness.  You think that with your rhetoric and foul mouthed antics that you’ll drive everyone away, don’t you Lee.  Which is precisely your reason for attacking Cyrena.

Todd left.  I would say that says something about you.  It’s plain to see why you’re here and who you are.  Crawl back in your hole Lee.

YEA Lee, not that Cyrena will take notice.  She hasn’t yet, she just keeps on going!

RE: CYRENA

Cyrena, I guess you get away with calling any and all white people you disagree with a racist. I get along just fine with people of all races, and I’ve come to learn that racists are not just white. Believe it or not, being black does not automatically exclude you from being a racist. You and Wright and Farrakan are all black, and you are all racists. You conveniently use the race card when it serves your objectives ... and you conveniently accuse others of being racists, whenever it serves your objectives. In response to your negative, yet false criticisms of me ... allow me to respond. I, along with everyone else on Truthdig, has had to endure your ongoing nasty remarks, personal attacks, outspoken opinions, and totally one sided “Oh poor me, I’m the victim over every issue, because I’m black” drumbeat, for 3,428 postings. Now, I know you think you’re the little ‘darling’ of truthdig, and you act as if it’s your own little personal clique, but there are many of us who feel that your excessive number of postings, and your constant one sided point of view does not give you more credibility than does the rest us ... in fact, on the contrary! Nor does your overwhelming number of postings, your sex, your race, or your alliances with other members give you some sort of elevated status, or entitlement. Quite frankly, your constant ‘in your face’ attitude is really quite offensive!

Lee, why are you confusing the Nation of Islam, with whom Louis Farrakhan IS associated, but does NOT represent in totality) with the United Church of Christ? They have ZERO connection, and both have been in existence LONG before either Jeremiah Wright or Louis Farrakhan came along.

Barack Obama has nothing in common with Louis Farrakhan aside from the fact that they are both of African-American ancestry, both live in Chicago, and are both male.

Beyond that….NOTHING!!

Jeremiah Wright does NOT belong to the Nation of Islam and he has nothing more in common with Louis Farrakhan than Barack Obama. He’s of African-American Ancestry, and he lives in Chicago, and he’s male.

Your attempt to confuse them and/or otherwise conflate the ideologies or the religions, and then triangulate even more by attaching either to the political positions of the candidates is transparent, and shows you for what you are.

Are you so far gone in your mental illness as to prevent you from even realizing the depth of your own hypocrisy?

Ya know Ostrogoth,

“Lee” here, (that you reference as ‘good buddy’ )
has been around this site, off and on, for a while.

And, I don’t know if he’s ever even BEEN on meds, though it certainly appears that he might benefit from them.

In the meantime, I suspect that while he IS ‘anti-American”, and certainly the epitome of the worst kind of racism, it’s more an issue of him just being ANTI-human, and ANTI everything.

Mental illness like this is devastating, because all too often, it goes undiagnosed and therefore untreated, even when it CAN be treated. More frightening is the fact that people like this often holds jobs of authority that can influence the events of the lives of others. (witness George Bush and Dick Cheney)

I’m not sure who to blame for that, other than a ‘system’ that has largely failed the majority of our population. I wish I had the answers. I don’t. The only comfort I can take is in the fact that while these ‘types’ do exist, they are clearly in the minority.

I do know that sadly, these “Lee” types cannot be persuaded by logic, reason, or even common sense. EVER. They CAN be assisted with meds, if carefully supervised. Unfortunately, there isn’t a cure as of yet.

I thought this piece that I’ve just come across in the NYT was very timely.

Harassment at Obama’s Church Is Detailed
By Catrin Einhorn

“After mostly avoiding the media and declining interview requests, officials at Trinity United Church of Christ, home church to Senator Barack Obama and Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr, changed tactics Thursday, and described how the church has faced threats and other forms of harassment in recent weeks.

Standing at Trinity’s pulpit, flanked by church leaders of various denominations, Rev. John H. Thomas, the president of the United Church of Christ, looked into the cluster of cameras and called for a nationwide dialogue on race, including a preach-in on May 18 (called “Trinity Sunday,” he pointed out, on the ecumenical calendar).

“We will be asking our nearly 10,000 U.C.C. pastors across this nation to use their pulpits to begin to address the subject of race,” Mr. Thomas said, noting the symbolism of the day, which marks 40th anniversary of Martin Luther King’s final sermon.
“We believe that this is an important first step in beginning the broader conversation that needs to take place in our nation, in our communities and, especially, in our houses of worship.”

Church officials said they have received email and phone threats in the wake of the controversy over Mr. Wright’s comments, leading them to increase security. In one example, a caller said that Mr. Wright was going to see Jesus sooner than he thinks.
Rev. Otis Moss III, who is taking over from Jeremiah Wright as senior pastor, admonished members of the press for their behavior over the past few weeks. Reporters have harassed parishioners on their way in and out of church, he said. They have snuck inside and interrupted services. They even got hold of a list of sick parishioners and called people who were in hospice care, he added.

Mr. Moss declared that the church was reclaiming its “sacred space.”

“We respect your right to report the news,” Mr. Moss sternly told reporters. “Please respect our right to worship God.”

Then he turned playful.

“Now if you’re a member of the media and you’re looking for a church home, we welcome you to Trinity United Church of Christ,” he said. “There is no greater church this side of the Jordan.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/harassment-at-obamas-church-is-detailed/index.html?ex=1364961600&en=415d548b1b497939&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

I hope someone will throw BAARRACK OBBAMMA under the bus.

Ostrogoth ...

Wright is anti-American because of
Anti-American statements, and actions like ...

The American government created aids to exterminate the black race ..
The American government is responsible for 911
God Damn America
Giving a life time award to bigot Louis Farrakan
Going to visit Kadafi with Farrakan
Barak Obama even denounced Wright for his racist anti-American words!

Do yourself a favor and read what Obama, Wright and Farrakan swear their allegiance to, so that you can deal with reality.
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm

And,  If I call a racist a racist it’s because he’s a racist ... or supports racists!

“So, now, your new tactic is to tell us not to believe our own eyes and ears ... and, instead to listen to you maniacs who are trying to lie right to our face!”

“We know they are anti-American racists and divisive hate mongers. Revisionist’s, like you, have tried to lie to us to further your political agendas throughout history.”

“Wright, Farrakan and you other racists will be consumed by your own hate.”

-By Lee, April 3 at 10:48 am #
____________________

Off your meds, good buddy? I saw about 10 minutes of Reverend Wright’s “chickens” sermon. In it, he explains (not justifies) the 9/11 attacks as “chickens coming home to roost.” Is there any intelligent, honest person who would disagree with that analysis?

What I saw of the sermon was neither anti-American nor racist. Wright comes across as a patriot who’s not afraid to speak the truth even when it makes others uncomfortable. If the video were required viewing for all Americans, maybe a million innocent Iraqis would still be alive now. What exactly do you find so objectionable? Even someone like you could learn something from it.

By the way, what does “American” and “anti-American” mean to you, as confused as you obviously are? Being American ought to mean that you respect those who disagree with you instead of smearing them as liars, anti-Americans, and racists. If anyone meets the definition of anti-American, it’s you.

I see today Axelrod (or whatever his name is) admitted to hiring a PR firm for Wrights church after all the fireworks.  Guess it worked as MSM is all quiet about it.
They also came out on the news about the “the family or Foundation” in Washington. The MSM is feeding it like it is some sinister club. When in fact Obama’s church is

By Margaret Talev | McClatchy Newspapers
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008  
E. Jason Wambsgans / Chicago Tribune / MCT

Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. gives a sermon at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois in October 2006. | View larger image
WASHINGTON — Jesus is black. Merging Marxism with Christian Gospel may show the way to a better tomorrow. The white church in America is the Antichrist because it supported slavery and segregation.

Those are some of the more provocative doctrines that animate the theology at the core of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Barack Obama’s church.

Obama’s speech Tuesday on race in America was hailed as a masterful handling of the controversy over divisive sermons by the longtime pastor of Trinity United, the recently retired Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

But in repudiating and putting in context Wright’s inflammatory lines about whites and U.S. foreign policy, the Democratic presidential front-runner didn’t address other potentially controversial facts about his church and its ties.

Wright has said that a basis for Trinity’s philosophies is the work of James Cone, who founded the modern black liberation theology movement out of the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. Particularly influential was Cone’s seminal 1969 book, “Black Theology & Black Power.”

Cone wrote that the United States was a white racist nation and the white church was the Antichrist for having supported slavery and segregation.

Today, Cone, a professor at Union Theological Seminary in New York, stands by that view, but also makes clear that he doesn’t believe that whites individually are the Antichrist.

In an interview, Cone said that when he was asked which church most embodied his message, “I would point to that church (Trinity) first.” Cone also said he thought that Wright’s successor, the Rev. Otis Moss III, would continue the tradition.

“If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man’s liife sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.” -

-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow:

Re: Ostrogoth

It’s interesting that you, and the other racists
are apologizing for Wright’s anti-American
statements and associations ... when even
Barak Obama denounced Pastor Wright for his
unacceptable racist, anti-American statements.

Re: Ostrogoth

So, now, your new tactic is to tell us not to believe our own eyes and
ears ... and, instead to listen to you maniacs who are trying
to lie right to our face! America has seen racists like Wright
and Farrakan. We know they are anti-American racists and divisive
hate mongers. Revisionist’s, like you, have tried to lie to us to further
your political agendas throughout history. Talk about twisting facts!
Joseph Goebbels did itin Nazi Germany ... Mao did it in Communist
China ... George Orwell did it in the book 1984. And, now you and
the other applogists are trying to do it too. I’m sure you’ll find a
good number of feeble minded Americans who will buy into your
B.S. ... but, most people will not fall for it! Wright, Farrakan and you
other racists will be consumed by your own hate.
Do yourself a favor and read what Obama, Wright and Farrakan swear their allegiance to, so that you can deal with reality.
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm

Re: Lee

Neither one of your link’s provide any validity to your claim that Obama has “sworn his allegiance” to either of these two entities. Nor have you provided any proof to your claims that Obama is “joined at the hip” to either of these entities.  There are thousands of parishioners in Rev. Wrights church are they all “joined at the hip” to Rev. Wright?

I don’t place much stock in religion of any kind as it has that nasty tendency to DIVIDE rather than join people together.  For me Obama’s church isn’t any different from any other in this regard.  I think Obama spoke for himself during his speech.  If that’s not acceptable to you so be it.  However, the rest of your posts in general are racist and attempt to incite fear.  As I said before.

“They intimidate everyone using a divide and conquer strategy.  As long as we live apart, work apart and in general stay apart their strategy works.  They create fictitious fears and use intimidation to achieve their goals.  In reality they are afraid, some of them even believe their own rhetoric.”

“But, you see, all you’re doing is justifying and giving a reason for people to continue to spew and perpetuate hate.”

“...now we know that Obama was joined at the hip with outspoken anti-American racists for 20 years.”

-By Lee, April 3 at 6:18 am #
__________________________

I watched one of Wright’s sermons about chickens coming home to roost. In its entirety, not just remarks taken out of context. Telling the truth is not anti-American, my friend, and is not the cause of anti-American violence around the world. US imperialism and war crimes, including blind support for Israeli apartheid, cause anti-American violence. Reverend Wright is a patriot fighting racism and injustice. Those who twist the facts to smear this guy are the ones spewing and perpetuating hate.

RE: Deborah, Todd and Outraged

In response to your posts, where you go on and on justifying Wright’s indignation ... I truly feel empathy for any and all minorities who have been the victims of discrimination. Members of my own family have also been victims of discrimination. My father lost the sight in one of his eyes because of it. You guys can site all kinds of stories of lynching and other abuses. The American Indians had their lands stolen and were given blankets that were diseased ... The Chinese were kept in squalor while they built our railroads ... The Jews were persecuted for centuries ... and, I’m sure you could find lots of other examples ... But, you see, all you’re doing is justifying and giving a reason for people to continue to spew and perpetuate hate. The idea is to move forward ... to bring people of different races and religions together as Americans. Or, if you want to take it a step further ... as members of humanity.
Initially, Obama was supposed to be the candidate who transcended race ... however, now we know that Obama was joined at the hip with outspoken anti-American racists for 20 years. Racists who continually look backwards for reasons to justify their hate. Do yourself a favor and read what Obama, Wright and Farrakan swear their allegiance to, so that you can deal with reality.
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm

Racists are scared.  They’re scared because they know that they have been the perpetrators and abusers.  If the rest of America joined together, they’d be dead in the water.  They know that the tables would change drastically for them and they’d have nowhere to go.

They understand quite specifically how this works.  Since they’ve been practicing this abuse for a long time.  They intimidate everyone using a divide and conquer strategy.  As long as we live apart, work apart and in general stay apart their strategy works.  They create fictitious fears and use intimidation to achieve their goals.  In reality they are afraid, some of them even believe their own rhetoric.

I think the posters here who are condemning Jeremiah Wright are afraid of him because they know he’s not afraid of them.  They don’t know how to handle that.  They want all of us to be afraid, because they’re afraid, and what will happen to them if we’re not.  In reality they do have more to fear than the rest of us, because they’re the perpetrators and abusers and everyone knows who they are.

Say it brother

If we are really lucky Obama will be driving the bus,CTA is hiring

Your quote:

“Who will Barack Obama throw under the bus next?

And the answer is…

All of us!”

**Or..if we’re real lucky someone will throw you under a bus.

That was entertaining….  Can you write another?  Oh..and it’s “forest THROUGH the trees”, for future reference of course.

Hey I like that, “big” only written “BIG”.  That’s kind of like onomatopoeia only with letter shape…right?  Now..what do they call that again?

So, Todd ...
You don’t care about Wright’s, or Obama’s past actions, statements, associations, or beliefs, which they passionately embraced for over 20 years, because you claim they’re not that way now?  And, all because THEY say so? Even though in Wright’s most recent sermons he has continued to spew his anti-American, racist rants. And, the new pastor at Trinity, which Obama still attends, appears to be just as radical as Wright. And, after 20 years, all of the sudden,  Obama NOW distances himself from all this for political expediency. This is your proof that these people are not that way any more???  Do yourself a favor and read what Obama, Wright and Farrakan swear their allegence to, so that you can deal with reality.
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm

Outraged,
You make the typical response that’s found in many Truthdig postings ...
You make a fuss about small insignificant details, or type errors, and completely miss the BIG point. The big point is that your hero, Obama, was joined at the hip with an anti-american racist for 20 YEARS! The same racist who gave the ultimate racist, Louis Farrakan a life time achievement award. Any reasonable person can see that ... however, you choose to divert attention away from this important point, which is polarizing the entire democratic party ... not to mention the entire country ... so that you can make your trite little observation about how it was written. If you’re going to be ‘outraged’ ... how about choosing things that are worth being outraged about. Either you can’t see the forest for the trees ... or, you simply refuse to ... or you have lousy judgement ... just like your deceptive candidate, Barak Obama. Do yourself a favor and read what Obama, Wright and Farrakan swear their alliegence to, so that you can deal with reality.
http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm

Lee’s quote: “Your attempts to white wash these two despicable characters just shows how much you lie to yourselves”

Is it just me.. or does everyone else see the irony in Lee’s comment that we’re attempting to “WHITEWASH” these two supposedly “despicable characters”. (BTW Lee, there’s no space needed between “white” and “wash”)

Sure you can blame the media for Wright’s bad image ... or, how about blaming Pastor Wright himself, and make him take responsibility for what HE said and HE did??? HIS outrageous statements about aids, 911 ... not to mention HIS giving a lifetime achievement award to a disgusting racist biggot like Farrakan. It’s really sickening to see people continue to defend him, and blame the media on the basis that they reported the TRUTH to us too many times! And, after Obama’s 20 year close relationship with his mentor/advisor, there are some people who continue to make weak excuses for Obama. I know you people want to see Obama get elected ... but at any cost? Where is your honesty and integrity. Your attempts to white wash these two despicable characters just shows how much you lie to yourselves, and lie to everyone else on this website called TRUTHdig.

I was never Offended by what was shown for’Evidence’ -maybe I’ve come intoo many times in the middle of the movie and had to ‘Catch Up’
When He said “home to Roost’ I KNEW he meant the acts that the MIC have committed while cloaked in our flag. I KNEW he was referring to America Inc, not AmericaNs. I’ve read our history, I know what crimes have been committed by those who claim Allegience to US and Our Priciples. I KNOW even OUR Consitution was not unduly Influenced when it was Penned. All this ‘Atheist’ can say to those Full Clips is AMEN! Wish he was still Preaching, maybe he’ll still do speech. I’ll enjoy watching. God Bless Rev. Wright. Oh I’m a natural Born Woman of European Descent. I was Not EVER Offended. I knew he was speaking the Truth (sometimes the light can be painful to those who’s eyes have been closed for So long)

Thank you twice, Todd.

Thank you, TRUTH.

Thank you, Todd.

“Those network/cable news and print “journalists” who lynched Dr. Wright have no shame whatsoever!”

I agree. But guess where their little stool pigeons go when they want to trash talk?  I’ll give you a hint they quote Pat Buchanan (surprisingly not David Duke) and say or imply mean-spirited things.

Whoa… “joined at the hip” are they..?  So, I was wondering, is Rev. Wright also “joined at the hip” to the other thousand members of his congregation or does he just allow special parishioners to be “joined at the hip”?

Your quote: “Outraged wants this question to go away, like all other questions about Obama and his “God damn America!” pastor.”

You’re wrong there JF, I think it lets everyone know just exactly what type of person you are.

Still, you didn’t address the question I actually asked. Did you just want this question to go away?

I’ll ask again:  “Your quote: “It’s easy to be a hero to the hate-America left now, but back when it wasn’t so easy…”

It seems you feel “the left” HATES America. Who is “the left” exactly in your terms?”

A Brief for Whitey
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted 03/21/2008 ET

How would he pull it off? I wondered.

How would Barack explain to his press groupies why he sat silent in a
pew for 20 years as the Rev. Jeremiah Wright delivered racist rants
against white America for our maligning of Fidel and Gadhafi, and
inventing AIDS to infect and kill black people?

How would he justify not walking out as Wright spewed his venom about
“the U.S. of K.K.K. America,” and howled, “God damn America!”

My hunch was right. Barack would turn the tables.

Yes, Barack agreed, Wright’s statements were “controversial,” and
“divisive,” and “racially charged,” reflecting a “distorted view of
America.”

But we must understand the man in full and the black experience out of
which the Rev. Wright came: 350 years of slavery and segregation.

Barack then listed black grievances and informed us what white America
must do to close the racial divide and heal the country.

The “white community,” said Barack, must start “acknowledging that what
ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of
black people; that the legacy of discrimination—and current incidents
of discrimination, while less overt than in the past—are real and
must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds ... .”

And what deeds must we perform to heal ourselves and our country?

The “white community” must invest more money in black schools and
communities, enforce civil rights laws, ensure fairness in the criminal
justice system and provide this generation of blacks with “ladders of
opportunity” that were “unavailable” to Barack’s and the Rev. Wright’s
generations.

What is wrong with Barack’s prognosis and Barack’s cure?

Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black
hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots
in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as
Nixon put it, “everybody but the rioters themselves.”

Was “white racism” really responsible for those black men looting auto
dealerships and liquor stories, and burning down their own communities,
as Otto Kerner said—that liberal icon until the feds put him away for
bribery.

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White
America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions,
grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It
was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships,
grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian
salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity
blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white
Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ‘60s on welfare,
food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student
loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty
programs designed to bring the African-American community into the
mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination
against white folks—with affirmative action, contract set-asides and
quotas—to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over
America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult
education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new “ladders of opportunity” for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic
schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing
out scholarships for “deserving” white kids.

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and
incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white
America? Is it really white America’s fault that illegitimacy in the
African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate
from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of
the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and
especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that
while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black
criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common
than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common
in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the
Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the
epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and
40 trillion tax dollars ago.

Whites were brought across as slaves but guilty liberal white America and black America do not want you to know about it.For the people on this site ,its about who had more slaves whites or black, blacks of course did . but it doesn’t lessen the point.I put this story on here and was labeled a racist for pointing something out that seems to be forgotten,here is a link.
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/forgottenslaves.html
Slavery is slavery case closed.

oh and by the way I’m white , raised in a housing project,with mixed race cousins and a niece and nephew. the grandmother was a typical white woman, the daughter was a U of I student who married an African, who later left and went back to Africa.Who raised those kids while the mother was in school, the typical white woman grandmother she couldn’t take her mixed race grandchildren to the black neighborhoods, and she couldn’t take them to the white neighborhoods, but the typical white woman guarded those kids with a passion, she made sure they were educated and learned how to speak proper English, none of the hood shit, one owns her own business, the brother is an executive with a large corp. in Washington st. this typical white family went through hell raising these kids,they wont take welfare and they wont vote for Obama because of his skin color.

Wright is an anti-American racist, pure and simple.
Obama and Wright were not just acquaintances, they
were joined at the hip for 20 years. All the spin and
white washing in the world won’t change that truth.
His anti-American, racist statements are unacceptable,
snipits, or not! You can see how his audiences were
totally involved ... enotionally, mentally and even
physically, so the “oh I was there, but I didn’t hear
what Wright said” excuse is right up there with my
dog ate my homework assignment. Furthermore,
Martin Luther King would have found Wright’s sermons
of divisive ‘hate speech’ to be diametrically opposed to
his sermons of unity and love for all ... ALL ... not just the
black community.

Re: Jacob Freeze, April 1

Your quote: “It’s easy to be a hero to the hate-America left now, but back when it wasn’t so easy…”

It seems you feel “the left” HATES America. Who is “the left” exactly in your terms? 

To Everyone Else:
Why doesn’t it bother Clinton that she is hurting the people of America?  Do we want a president with such viciousness?  Clinton is Bush incarnate and she cares NOT ONE WIT what she does to the people of America to achieve her ends.  If she did, she wouldn’t do it.  It’s really that simple.

“Clinton, knowing the Race Chasm can fortify her firewall, has subsequently intensified her efforts to put race front and center in the campaign, most recently attacking Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s former pastor who has delivered fiery speeches indicting white racism. She is so determined to raise race issues in advance of these Race Chasm contests that she gave an in-person interview to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review specifically to criticize Wright. For reference, the Tribune-Review is a conservative newspaper in western Pennsylvania owned by the same Richard Mellon Scaife who funded the anti-Clinton witchhunts of the ’90s.”

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3597/the_clinton_firewall/

... Prayer…

May we All soon know more
of our One Common Source
so that no more
will we be blind…..
May our angles of vision become
as varied and clear as the crystals
which grow in the caves…...
Lovingly…
Firmly…
Eternally…
confronting the darkness….

When put into context…and when heard in their totality, Rev. Wright’s historical references and biblical imperatives are flat-out unimpeachable.  As a white man, I’m not saying his remarks tickle my ears, but there is an undeniable resonance of truth in what Rev. Wright said.  If our country is going to change, we need more—not less of the truth told to us.  And it is very obvious to me which of the presidential candidates is apt to tell us the truth.

As opposed to the media’s reporting of HIGHLY editted excerts, in their full context, Rev. Wright’s comments are directly on point to the message he was delivering.  Bombasticly stated, perhaps, but, on point.

I thought the whole idea of Christianity was to obligate the believer to apply its tenets to real world problems and events, categories which do not exclude US domestic and foreign policy, past, present, and future.

Accordingly, the burden of proof should be on Wright’s detractors to explain what is so Christian about the practices he so eloquently condemns.

Wasn’t it the people on this site saying in a round about way that this is being played into the ground