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The Bosnia Brouhaha

The all-seeing eye of YouTube has once again asserted itself, catching Hillary Clinton in an exaggeration of her White House-era visit to Bosnia—a trip that was a bit less harrowing than we were led to believe.

The Clinton campaign has conceded that the candidate may have misspoken, “but there is no question if you look at contemporaneous accounts that she was going to a potential combat zone, that she was on the front lines.” Link

CBS was sufficiently moved by the use of its footage in the YouTube clip to do a follow-up story, confirming the claims of the Internet video:

Here’s the clip that got the ball rolling:

TAGS: bosnia campaign cbs clinton exaggeration sniper video youtube

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By bert, March 27 at 9:18 pm #
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What About All Those Indictments?

And, oh......by the way. I am just curious. What do Obamabots have to say about the two Obama supporters and super delegates indicted this week?

1. Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice.

2. Puerto Rico Governor Anibal Acevedo Vila indicted on criminal charges related to campaign financing.

Oh gee.........the Obama campaign just keeps giving and giving..........presents that is to Republicans and John McCain to craft attack ads they can use to defeat Obama next November.

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By bert, March 27 at 8:46 pm #
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Lies Part 3 For Jim Bob

7. Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama’s primary campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He is not. He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles.

OOPS… lie

8. Oh, and about that civil rights love story he spun regarding his mother and father, false, as well:
Mr. Obama relayed a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: “I meant the whole civil rights movement.”

OOPS… lie

I have more examples of Obama’s dissembling I am more than willing to share with you. But this should be a nice little appetizer for you to begin digesting Jim Bob.

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By bert, March 27 at 8:45 pm #
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Lies Part 2 For jJm Bob

4. Rezko

For months Senator Obama insisted that Tony. Rezko was simply one of “thousands of donors” turned into an admission that this indicted political fixer was someone Senator Obama spoke to on the phone everyday when fundraising.

The Obama campaign’s regularly claimed that. Rezko only raised $150,000 turned into an admission reported that he in fact had raised at least $100,000 more than had previously been disclosed, bringing the donation to $250,000.

Obama for months insisted that Rezko simply loaned him some money to help purchase his house. Now he admits they toured the property together.

OOPS… caught lying again

5. “…I will complete my U.S. Senate Term”

RUSSERT “Have you ruled out running for another office before your term is up?”

Obama answered, “It’s not something I anticipate doing.”

RUSSERT: Will you serve your six-year term as United States senator from Illinois?”

Obama “Absolutely. I will serve out my full six-year term.”

MR. RUSSERT: So you will not run for president or vice-president in 2008?
SEN. OBAMA: I will not.

Link to Meet The Press Transcript January 22, 2006: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10909406/

OOPS… lie…in fact 3 times

6. Rev. Wright
Obama first claimed not to know about Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s inflammatory statements. He later admitted he did.

Flip-Flip Video

OOPS… lie

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By bert, March 27 at 8:44 pm #
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Lies Part 1 for Jim Bob

Okey Doke JimBob. I have compiled a list of some of Obama’s lies, with documentation. And I have a lot more to share. This is by no means an exhaustive list.
“Uh, please give me chapter and verse on an Obama “misspeak” that comes
close to the blatancy and cynicism of Hillary’s Bosnia lie.”

1. Obama bragged in the Iowa debate about the “nuclear legislation I’ve passed.” When he encountered resistance from the nuclear industry… including Illinois-based Excelon, the country’s largest nuclear plant operator and one of Mr. Obama’s largest sources of campaign money, he edited his bill several times, making it weaker each time. The bill, however, never passed. It died. In October 2007, Obama resubmitted the bill in its watered-down version.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon .html?_r=2&hp;&oref;=slogin&oref=slogin

OOPS… lie

2. Senator Obama purports to be in favor of “universal” health care, utilizing private insurance, however, he adamantly denied advocating single payor. But there was a time when he was in favor of the single payor system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAkIidChxic

OOPS… lie

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/obama-flip-flops-on- reverend-wright/2100981589

3. Canadian RV reported that a senior member of Obama’s campaign, Austan Goolsbee, spoke directly with the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago to assure them that if Obama publicly spoke about opting out of NAFTA, they should not take it seriously.

Obama flatly denied the report, at least 7 different times. I have posted those quotes on a different thread at Truth Dig previously.

On March 4, the New York Times, among other sources, revealed that the conversation had indeed taken place, and published the memo..

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20 080227/dems_nafta_080227/20080227?hub=CTVNewsAt11

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/us/politics/04nafta. html?st=cse&sq=obama+nafta&scp=9

New York Times published the memo: http://www.nytimes.com/images/promos/politics/blog/200 70303canmemo.pdf

OOPS… caught lying again

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By bert, March 27 at 8:42 pm #
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Reply to Jim Bob

“please give me chapter and verse on
an Obama “misspeak”

Check out my response to Purple Girl a little farther down in this thread for just a very few of them.

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By Chal. take, etc., March 27 at 3:50 pm #
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Typical White-----
It was just a gag to tease my pal Douglas. Actually, I didn’t think Truthdig would let me get away with posting it. Just in fun. My usual thing is serious consideration of issues. In my adjacent post, I tried to get JimBob to engage in discussion but he doesn’t seem to be interested. At least Chalmers will talk issues. -Joe

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By PatrickHenry, March 27 at 3:13 pm #
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I love it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5155139368606 673545&q=hillary+wasn’t+lying&total=31&st art=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

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By Chalmers, take it like a man, March 26 at 4:25 pm #
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Dougles Chalmers, Hillary’s tall-tales remind me of Reagan standing on the Berlin Wall with his axe or whatever the fuck he was doing, announcing to the world how he had beaten the Soviet Union. Events were actually driven by the vision of Mikhail Gorbachev.

Hillary, though her gender dominates your distorted quivering, is the female equivalent of a punk, a guy who says and does anything he feels like doing.

Douglas, if you had a flat head, you’d be the perfect sissy. I’d have a place to set my beer while you service my enormous manhood.

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By Joe, March 26 at 3:43 pm #
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JimBob, Thank you for your well thought-out comments.
What makes you think my vote is a “protest vote?” This is not a Democrats-only board. The two Parties have failed fully in their obligations to defend the country fiscally and re: security. We’re living on credit-card spending via China’s eagerness to lend (Treasury Bonds). We place ourselves at risk by abusing our military with senseless activities, wearing-out personnel and equipment to a depleted state. Both Iraq and the maintenance of massive nuclear forces are activities in which we indulge at the expense of meeting hallmarks of an advanced society. You might think again about being party to the astonishing greed and cowardice which are embodied in both major Parties.

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By JimBob, March 26 at 1:13 pm #
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"Exaggeration"???

Christ, even TruthDig is willing to cut the woman slack. Incredible. “I misspoke.” No, Angel Bumps, you lied in a prepared statement with the clear, conscious and unmistakable intent of misleading your audience, of creating a version of yourself that does not comport with the historical record. And all the media, this outlet included, falls over itself choosing the proper vocabulary to let you off the hook.
It’s disgusting.

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By Joe, March 26 at 10:40 am #
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This article characterizes Sen. Clinton’s comments
as “exaggeration.” In fact, this elaborate story,
repeated at different campaign stops, was an
outright lie in all of its many-detailed aspects. I
will be voting for neither Democrat so I don’t have
a rat in the maze here. Clinton’s desperation to
become President is becoming a warning sign to
uncommitted delegates, I believe. She is making the
same mistake other Democrats have made in recent
elections...not being herself. She is allowing a
spiraling fixation to overcome her natural, better tendencies.

Though I will support Paul, Nader or Gravel, depending on which is available on my home ballot, I’m sure either Hillary or Obama would lift the nation and the world community out of its present state of unease and hopeless poverty. Hillary, take the advice of this humble voter: forget the exciting pronouncements and meanness. Be yourself.

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By logical, March 26 at 10:21 am #
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Bert,

Your lame attempt to split hairs on the distinction between academic titles is totally inane. The centerpiece of Clinton’s campaign is her bald lie that she possess vast foreign policy experience. Right, cutting ribbons and attending funerals makes her a major player in foreign policy.

On the other hand, Sen. Obama is NOT running for an academic position, so in this context any distinction between “senior lecturer” and “professor” is really trivial.

Tom
p.s. I bow before your erudition—quoting the ultimate authority in all matters-- the Chicago Sun. Has the “Sun” beat out any junior high school newspapers?

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By bert, March 25 at 9:30 pm #
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One More Lie Cyrena

And one more thing, Cyrena. Obama is NOT a law professor. I repeat, Barak Obama is NOT a law professor.

According to Ltnn Sweet of the Chicago Sun Times:

“ Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama’s primary campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He is not. He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles.”

Details do matter, Cyrena.

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By bert, March 25 at 9:01 pm #
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Lies

Lies, Cyrena???? Lies???? You want to talk lies? Well, I’ll give you some of Obama’s lies. And if you think the Republicans will not use some or all of these then you are in perpetual denial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JQ4YXC_bjQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJbqRgoQ9i4&feature =related

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 25 at 4:47 pm #
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How compassionate of phony-Hillary to be greeted by this beautiful little Bosnian girl, and yet claim that this girl did not exist!

She’s done this again with the Palestinian children, whom she embraced and was photographed with, yet when she embraced the Zionist’s money machine, the Palestinians became non-existent. Has she uttered a single word about the Palestinian rights since she shamelessly embraced the Zionist marauders and occupiers?!

I’d rather stick with a devil I know well (Republicans) than a devil I will be forced to get to know for another five years (Democratic phony-Hillary)!

Only a third truly independent party might be the hope for this shattered country we call home.

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By PatrickHenry, March 25 at 2:45 pm #
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An Embellishment

She reminds me of my mom and I don’t want my mom as president.

McCain has real bigger, badder skeletons in his closet.

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By Typical White Person, March 25 at 9:13 am #
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When we

hear about all the times Obama has been to Cabrini Green, Altgeld Gardens, and the other projects in the Chicago area, he too will be called a liar, he promised school reform in the inner city, didn’t do a dam thing, handgun reform, didn’t do a dam thing but he is Obama. For the defenders of Hillary, it might have been a misspoken statement, no big deal, Kerry tried to pretend he was a war hero, Gore invented the Internet and grew up on a farm, Bill never had sex with that woman, there is a good case for WMD,s, and we dont torture, the point is they all lie,even Obama, and what I see here is your willing to overlook his lies, and misstatements yet drag everyone else on the carpet..

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By Typical White Person, March 25 at 9:02 am #
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I heard

John Kerry was flying the plane and making all those defensive moves, keeping the first lady out of harms way. But male pride wont let him release those records either…

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By DennisD, March 25 at 7:17 am #
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Front whine

“but there is no question if you look at contemporaneous accounts that she was going to a potential combat zone, that she was on the front lines.”

The “front line” of anything to most politicians is being nearest to the prime rib at the buffet.

The fact that anyone still pays any attention to what any of these self serving clowns say or said amazes me.(sorry Krusty)

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By Peter RV, March 25 at 7:11 am #
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According to Douglas Chalmers,
“As you may have guessed by now, Sinbad isn’t supporting Clinton for president. He’s an Obama guy....”
the only thing that counts is to identify Obama supporters. The way he does that ,cleverly, is to point out mercilessy at those who tell the truth about Hillary.
Good method, Doug, protect your copy right.

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By KYJurisDoctor, March 25 at 6:54 am #
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"BILLAR" and Bosnia.

NO one should trust “BILLARY” Clinton!

http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/03/lying-billary-c linton-shows-why-she.html#links

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By Purple Girl, March 25 at 5:34 am #
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For any other Job seeker in the Free

They gave themselves a Long interviewing Process- Their actions in the past held up aginst their Claims of Today.
Any other ‘Perpective Hire’ would have been shown the door and give the ‘Don’t call US, We’ll Call You ‘ line. If this is the new Rules of the Game - then Hell I’m a veterinarian,The Heir to The United Kingdom, the ‘Messiah’. At least I should be a Journeyman Carpenter- myhusband has been for nearly 30 yrs!
Anyone who allows this ‘misspoke’ BS to be echoed should be considered A biased Evauator and needs to be Excused from the Process. ( Newsweek rep on Countdown- Stop ‘Beating around the Bush’- She Lied about Ireland, NAFTA, Bosnia...She has Padded her Resume with Blanant Lies and Misrepresentation, she’s not only off the Short list for Promotions She’s Fired!

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By weather, March 25 at 3:30 am #
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"Come on Jake,

its Chinatown(Washington DC).”

Politicians were built to lie, this particular Clinton voicebox has her masters degree in misspoke. Next.

It would serve Obama well to seek John Edwards for Attorney General.

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By Douglas Chalmers, March 25 at 1:29 am #
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Hillary's nitpickers...........LOL

Thanks, TruthDig, but we already know where to find the NYTimes Caucus blog, uhh. And the story has already been blogged at length on DailyKos so you are a little behind....... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/22/211412/654/668 /482425

Hillary Clinton’s Walter Mitty Moment.....

The problem is that they are now accusing Hillary of “...knowing you’re a target but nonetheless pulling to your chest an 8 year old girl and allow your daughter to stand by your side...” as the ceremony took place on the tarmac.

Thus it is the NYTimes/DKos “Walter Mitty moment” as they deliriously nitpick and re-interpret being in fear of being shot - although they were never there.........

In fact, if there had been sniper fire, there are few things more callous than knowing you’re a target but nonetheless pulling to your chest an 8 year old girl and allow your daughter to stand by your side:

Of course, Clinton wasn’t using the 8 year old, Emina Bicakcic, as a human flak vest. She didn’t have to, because “‘[th]ere is peace now,’ Emina told Clinton, according to [reporter John] Pomfret’s report in the Washington Post the following day, ‘because Mr. Clinton signed it. All this peace. I love it.’ “

But, a former Clinton staffer gives her impression of the trip:

I was on the plane with then First Lady Hillary Clinton for the trip from Germany into Bosnia in 1996. We were put on a C17-- a plane capable of steep ascents and descents—precisely because we were flying into what was considered a combat zone. We were issued flak jackets for the final leg because of possible sniper fire near Tuzla. As an additional precaution, the First Lady and Chelsea were moved to the armored cockpit for the descent into Tuzla. We were told that a welcoming ceremony on the tarmac might be canceled because of sniper fire in the hills surrounding the air strip. From Tuzla, Hillary flew to two outposts in Bosnia with gunships escorting her helicopter.

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By Tanya, March 24 at 10:14 pm #
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Misswhat?

What the hell is a “misspeak”..can we say “flat out lie?”

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By cyrena, March 24 at 8:43 pm #
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“All this experience she’s talking about is partly in her imagination"…

Now, THAT’S diplomatic!!

I’m more inclined to say…

She’s a L-I-A-R!!

GW ain’t got nothin’ on Hillary Clinton…

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By Al Idrisi, March 24 at 6:28 pm #
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Once a Liar, well ya know the rest.

LOL, we got Hilary the commando now, hahahahaha, we got a new female Rambo on the block, I guess that little girl greeting hilary was packing some heat. Those muslim bosnians and their little snipper girls I tell ya, we got to put a stop to it before it spreads all over the Islamic world.

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