The last thing I would like to say before stepping away from this dead horse is that Muscleboy’s quote of someone saying Obama had “no intention of changing Nafta whatsoever” is completely false.

The actual leaked memo can be found here
It never quotes anyone but gives the writers impression of the content of the conversation.  Ironically enough that content indicates that Obama plans to make the changes to NAFTA he has indicated in debates and elsewhere, notably making labor mobility and environment core principles of NAFTA.

Hillary Clinton is certainly qualified to be president and would probably be a pretty good one at that.  I don’t doubt she could and would win in the fall, but she is loosing this race.  Her winning is highly unlikely.  I like her, but to me she comes with a lot of baggage, both good and bad.  I have a good sense of how she would be as president, good but probably not great.  The basic paradigm of the republican/democrat conflict would certainly remain intact.  I am also sure there would be many disappointing decisions made by a Clinton administration.  I say that because she has made many disappointing decisions in the past.  Decisions which are against the progressive ideals I would like to see. 

Obama is certainly more unknown in regards to what kind of president he would be.  However, I do have a feeling based on things he says and does.  I think he can and will win in the fall.  No matter what anyone says it remains the democrat’s year.  While I haven’t agreed with all the decisions Obama has made while in the Senate, he disappoints me less often and seems to have a more progressive leaning than Hillary.  Much more than that though is his talent and the increasing sense I get from him that he genuinely thinks a bit differently than the majority of politicians.  He seems to have not completely forgotten that the B.S. of politics is B.S.  Honestly, all the scandals that come out about him reinforces the sense that he is down-to-earth and sees things in a pretty clear way.  He shows a very strong talent for being able to bridge very difficult divides with a certain degree of wisdom.  That is something I have not seen before and it gives me the impression that he could possibly be a great president.  While I could be wrong, I am willing to take the chance at having a potentially great president with the leadership abilities only seen once in a generation.

Excellent statement Bill!
All excellent points and very well stated as usual.  I’m very impressed with him he fought for our country fought for our dollar and the economy and helped pump money into the middle class the vital engine of our great nation. 

Now with Hillary Clinton I see clearly detailed programs, well laid out, to major problems such as health care and trade agreements which serve only super corporations at the expense of everyone else.  Also an urgent national mission set about at getting us off oil by switching our economy over to home grown alternative clean energy will be an enormous boost to our economy even with the horrific damage left by George Bush. 

I think we keep seeing this completely unwarranted criticism of The Clintons by the major media primarily because they have a plan to roast Obama alive and assure McCain’s (the defense industrial complex) victory.  They know Hillary or a Hillary/Obama ticket would be virtually invincible and they also know they can’t buy off the Clintons, money is one thing they don’t need.  Organizations like CNN and MSNBC and Fox don’t go from constant support of Bush and his criminal mass-murder campaign in Iraq to supporting someone like Obama. It just plain doesn’t make any sense. People just need to wake up to see what is going on. 

I am no avid supporter of anyone I just want the good side to win this fight.  We need to win very desperately and Hillary can and will do it.  She is no spin off of a dynasty she is truly brilliant in her own right and can see the whole picture, we all know how she has toasted Bushites on both sides when they come before Congress, without them even knowing half the time.  She is very much her own person and very much suited for the job as president.

A thousand cheers to President Clinton for his excellent and thoughtful support of his wife, the soon to be president of the United States, Hillary Clinton.

^ 62 years, I can’t recall another democrat campaigning for the republican opponent.  (By the way, I thought they put a leash on Bill and a muzzle too) He has consistently praised McCain and doesn’t even say Obama’s name while speaking of “other things”.  If Hillary and McCain are such good friends; why doesn’t she run with McCain?  This is by all measure the screwiest campaign I have ever scene.  It wouldn’t particularly surprise me if Bill loses the nomination for his wife; but then, I think she’s already lost it.

The Obama camp likes to waste a lot of time reading between the lines in search of some vague paranoid innuendo in a Bill Clinton speech.  But instead of playing the victim card once again, I would like to see the Obama camp do something useful such as put together a time line for the complete withdrawal of all U.S. troops including combat, support, and contractors, from Iraq.

A few reality checks here. Clintonistas can cover their eyes if they want. The second article/link provides additional links to originally cited sources.

Story Behind the Story: The Clinton Myth
By Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen
The Politico

21 March 2008
One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.

Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party’s most reliable constituency.

Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote - which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle - and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.

People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.

As it happens, many people inside Clinton’s campaign live right here on Earth. One important Clinton adviser estimated to Politico privately that she has no more than a 10 percent chance of winning her race against Barack Obama, an appraisal that was echoed by other operatives.

In other words: The notion of the Democratic contest being a dramatic cliffhanger is a game of make-believe.

The real question is why so many people are playing. The answer has more to do with media psychology than with practical politics.

Journalists have become partners with the Clinton campaign in pretending that the contest is closer than it really is. Most coverage breathlessly portrays the race as a down-to-the-wire sprint between two well-matched candidates, one only slightly better situated than the other to win in August at the national convention in Denver.

Contd here
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032208A.shtml

Time to Bow Out
By Marc Ash
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

06 March 2008
Hillary Clinton had a good day on March 4. She reminded us she exists in her own right, and we may feel free to assume she played more than a trivial role in the Clinton presidential administration of the 90s. That said, she is the second most successful Democratic presidential candidate running this year, not the first. The most successful candidate running this year is Barack Obama.

Can she make a comeback? Sure. But it would necessarily involve “politics by other means.” Scorched earth politics, to be specific. As Jonathan Alter, writing for Newsweek, points out, Hillary does have an unsolvable Math Problem. To put March 4 in perspective, with three wins out of four primaries (and a caucus in Texas), Clinton gained a grand total of 12 delegates. That’s according to The New York Times. Bottom line, she’s not going in the front door. Obama will arrive at the convention with a pledged delegate lead in triple digits.
How we got here matters. The Clinton campaign assured us in advance they would prevail in the “big states” of Texas and Ohio; and so they did. But what made them so sure? They pursued a big state strategy from the onset, the traditional Democratic strategy of the last two decades. The Obama camp, however, went with the newly minted Howard Dean strategy, a small state, small ball game plan. Obama won. The delegate race is effectively over.

Dick Cheney was up front with Bush campaign minions during the 2000 Florida recount, “Just get control of the Oval Office ... it doesn’t matter how ... just do it.” Machiavelli could not have said it better himself.

Continue at the link:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030608A.shtml

What if the shoe were on the other foot?  What if Obama had come in third in Iowa and been behind ever since?

Would the media not be launching a psychiatric evaluation into why he could not understand reality?

The Clintons had their day in the sun. 

Time to turn that page in the history book and move on. 

We have to rid ourselves of entrenched politicians, congressmen and senators, generals and 30 year career civil servants, who have collectively blown our taxpayer money and borrowed more.

Whoever gets into the White House should clean house.