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Posted on Feb 28, 2008
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In what could shape up to be a general election preview, John McCain and Barack Obama have been trading barbs on Iraq. The two have been critical of each other in the past, though they’ve also professed mutual respect, but the tone of this exchange was a bit tougher, at least on Obama’s end.

Mac Attacks:

Obama Strikes Back:


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By bert, February 29, 2008 at 7:01 pm Link to this comment

Who said, “Pulling out now would make things worse. A quick withdrawal would add to the chaos there and make Iraq an extraordinary hotbed of terrorist activity. It would also damage America’s international prestige and amount to a slap in the face to the troops fighting there”

Was it John McCain? Or was it Hillary Clinton? Or perhaps George Bush said it?

No.  No.  No.

Actually Barak Obama said this in September, 2004 while he was campaigning for the seat he eventually won and currently holds in the US Senate.

Never underestimate your opponent, especially the cagey McCain and the ever present Republican smear machine. The right wing will research and dig up every little thing Obama ever said about Iraq and twist it and turn it around to suit their purposes.

In this campaign for President Obama says he will bring the troops home. On the videos with this post we also hear Obama say he reserves the right to send troops back in after once withdrawn should Al Qaeda become a threat to USA interests.

Do you see the conundrum Obama has created for himself?  McCain just has to ask why take the troops out now if they might be needed at some future time. Keep them there till the job is done. Then bring them home. To many voters this will sound perfectly logical.

The reason Obama will most likely find himself backed into a corner in the general election is because after all he is just another politician. That is, he will say and do whatever is expedient at the time to get himself elected. Obama’s rhetoric on Iraq now in the Democratic primary is just an election strategy to defeat Hillary.  Much as what he felt he had to say when he ran for the Senate on 2004. And evidently he did not think through all of the possible ramifications of his 2004 remark to future campaigns.

I believe this is called ‘hoist on his own petard.’  And it is why some of us think he is not experienced enough to win the Presidency.

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By Counselor1, February 29, 2008 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

Barbs on Iraq don’t matter much. Bush or Israel has a game changer. All Bush or Israel has to do to prolong and worsen the war in Iraq is to goad Iran into retaliation by a campaign of air strikes against it. I believe this will happen starting after the party conventions in September. Obama, like Clinton, has voted for every war funding bill. When Bush then sounds an alarm that Iran is attacking our troops, whether true or not, whoever the Democrat nominee may be will have the same excuse as McCain for continuing the Middle East Crusade.
  The only nonviolent way I can think of for Americans to avoid this is for voters, in mass numbers, after their primaries, to de-register from the Republican and Democratic parties, stop supporting them with money, refuse to tell pollsters how they are leaning and make clear to these conniving parties that deepening and worsening the war is unacceptable.

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By James Raider, February 29, 2008 at 11:16 am Link to this comment
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There an overwhelming energy boiling up that has lain dormant for a very long time… As a result, a virtual unknown a few months ago is becoming the next President and this is why—>

• It appears this underlying reason for the advancing avalanche shoving Obama into the White House is perplexing most observers, and all participants, including McCain.

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By jatihoon, February 29, 2008 at 10:47 am Link to this comment

McCain, sound like bollywood movie producer, director and writer. Absolutly, makes no sense,is he a comedian or not, we already have Bush, one comdeian too many.Al-Qaeda, is very old movie and very old plot.Please find a new “SCRIPT.”

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By Blackspeare, February 29, 2008 at 9:53 am Link to this comment

Do not underestimate the anti-black vote in the upcoming election——-it could be decisive in a close election as was the anti-jewish vote in the 2000 debacle.  I always said that if Gore had chosen a nice WASP for his running mate he would today be POTUS!

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By cyrena, February 29, 2008 at 3:28 am Link to this comment

McCain is senile, stupid, and arrogant.

First, he says that he is NOT embarrassed to admit that he did NOT watch the democratic debate. This is a very stupid admission,  since he should know what his fellow Americans –and especially his competitors in this election - are talking about, and what their positions are on the issues.

But no…Johnnie here is content to go with whatever ‘somebody TELLS him’. (like, somebody TOLD him that Obama signed a piece of paper). Well Johnnie, as president, you would have to stay up beyond your bedtime occasionally. (even though the shrub never does.) Might even have to listen to what Americans are talking about as well.

Then the moron tries to be sarcastic about al-Qaeda in Iraq, so maybe somebody TOLD him about that too. He doesn’t mention that there was NO al-Qaeda in Iraq before the US invasion of that sovereign nation, because there was no way Saddam would allow it. He also doesn’t really know who or what al-Qaeda in Iraq actually is. Maybe they are a dozen, and maybe they are a hundred. All we really know, is that however many they might be, they are ONLY there NOW, BECAUSE WE ARE!. Moron!

Whoops…I made these observations before I listened to Barack’s response. He noted the same thing.

As for following Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, McCain hasn’t done that either, and neither have the bush gangsters.

Osama is dead. Maybe he’s in hell, and maybe he’s not.  But, he’s not around anymore. Now if McCain or George wanna keep following OBL to wherever he is, that’s fine. They should get humpin’.  Maybe do a little walking on water, across those several bodies of it, between here and there. George thinks he can. I’d be willing to watch him try.

Not for long though. It’s such a waste of time to watch either one of them, especially when there’s real urgent work to be done, to save our own asses from the gates of hell, which are already close enough.

I’m not interested in a full view of the interior.

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By James Raider, February 29, 2008 at 12:50 am Link to this comment
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The wildfire of “jump-on-the-Obama-wagon-to-curry-favor” we are witnessing is accelerating the euphoria swirling around Obama.  Obama has presented an alternative rooted in a social force that neither Clinton nor McCain can either understand or do battle against. ...

Even Obama may not fully grasp the reasons why an individual who was almost unknown only a few months ago is being swept into the White House with such broad support.  McCain has experience but the electorate isn’t listening, particularly when it comes to Iraq.

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