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Hillary Tears Up in New Hampshire

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Posted on Jan 7, 2008
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Hillary Clinton became emotional Monday while discussing the campaign in New Hampshire. According to several polls, she now trails Barack Obama, who appears to be gaining momentum. “I just don’t want to see us fall backward as a nation,” she said as her emotions rose.

A critical viewer might notice that at one point, Hillary used almost the same language as John Edwards did during his most successful moment of the last debate.  The New York senator said: “I mean, this is very personal for me. Not just political. I see what’s happening. We have to reverse it.”

And while we don’t want to cynically dismiss a candidate’s emotional display as calculation, we are obligated to point out, as Newsweek did, that the talk took place before 16 voters and “about 100 members of the media.” Though we suppose that’s par for the course in New Hampshire.

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By Conservative Yankee, January 14, 2008 at 6:46 am Link to this comment
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“She IS having to actually work for it and nothing is being handed to her”

I agree; now let us talk about “the work” she is doing for all that drug company and defense company money she is NOT being handed for free>

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By cyrena, January 14, 2008 at 1:31 am Link to this comment

I love it. You really WERE getting into it. I’m starting to wonder if you and a few others might be slipping some material past the picket line.

  Just kidding, just kidding. I couldn’t resist. wink

Anyway, this IS really good. I was getting into it myself. This is my favorite though…

“...If nothing’s happening, the journalists start instigating (“I want to play for you something that Hillary said about yo mama yesterday—now what do you say about that?”)...”

Too good!!

Dang, I have to go read some boring stuff now. This is so much better. smile

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By cyrena, January 14, 2008 at 1:10 am Link to this comment

I remember this song!! Very appropriate. wink

Now of course you KNOW she’s not gonna drop out, because you know she’s not really concerned about the USA.

It’s all about HER!!

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By purplewolf, January 13, 2008 at 11:33 pm Link to this comment

If you are the best person for a job it should be apparent by your past performance and accomplishments. It will have been observed by others as to how well you have been able to do the job you were selected for. There should be no need to carry on in this circus type of environment that are American politics today. Carrying on like an uncontrolled fool, as many have in public, speaks poorly for those trying to achieve the goal of president. Those running for office look immature and childish in many instances boasting or claiming what they have done. For the most part, people know already if you did or didn’t do something.

Mudslinging should never be a part of this process. Trying to bring others down to a level beneath you, shows the public that you are a very small person inside to begin with by stooping to this type of behaviour just to make you feel better or to look superior.

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By cyrena, January 13, 2008 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment

•  Perhaps being a Clinton was really a grind for her and she wants the ultimate revenge of having her husband’s job. It is quite ironic if you think about it and it is a victory for all women in that regard….Obviously, then, Hillary has learned many things out of necessity…. Thus she MUST seek approval from everyone else to be able to achieve her goal.

Douglas, if it was a ‘grind’ being a Clinton, why not just do some sort of ‘therapy’? And, HOW exactly, do you figure that it some sort of ‘victory’ for ALL women, for HILLARY to get ‘her’ ULTIMATE revenge, by having her husband’s job?

Are you crazy? Why exactly do you think that Hillary should get ‘ultimate revenge’ and ‘achieve her goal’ on OUR DIME and OUR time, instead of her just going to a flippin psychiatrist?

And what’s up with the ‘her husband’s job’? It was his job for 8 years, and he wasn’t the only one to hold it, and what does that have to do with anything anyway? No, what does it have to do with US?

And NO, she hasn’t performed any ‘victory’ for all women. I’m a woman, and I’m not the least bit interested in ULTIMATE REVENGE, against her family, or her husband, or any damn body else!! (well, I would like to see the Dick Bush Cabal incarcerated for the rest of their natural lives, but that’s not about revenge, that’s just about national healing and the rule of law).

Still, I do wish you’d quit this thing with using the entirely of the population of the United States as a prop for Hillary’s personal goals.

I don’t much care if she’s leaned anything out of necessity either. This isn’t a popularity contest or some kind of group therapy session. Can she do the job? And can she do it better than the other candidates who are looking for the opportunity, (if you really can call it that) to lead this nation, in some form of the democracy that we claim to hold dear?

If she can, then she’ll have a chance to keep convincing us of such. I don’t see how crying helps any though.

And, I’ll tell ya what. If I started boo-hooing on the job, no matter how much ‘human stress’ I was under, they’d send my ass packing.

So, how does Goldilocks here, figure that it’s perfectly fine to do that in an interview for job as POTUS?

No…there’s no reality here at all, human stress taken well into account. If any ordinary worker, (and don’t let it be a woman) starts crying on an interview, or in the midst of her work duties, she’s ‘unstable’ and or neurotic, or ‘emotional’ but it’s fine for Hill, and she’s just being ‘human’.

Sorry, I guess I’m not any more sympathetic than any of my former bosses or managers have been, and she hasn’t always been a ‘kind and sympathetic’ ‘boss’ herself. So, we’re pretty ‘stressed out’ on double and triple standards here.

You’re right about one thing though, WE are the hiring managers now, so she’ll definitely need our approval. She’s not doing too, at least not based on the comments here.

Maybe she’ll do better in the next round of the competition.

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By cyrena, January 13, 2008 at 6:50 pm Link to this comment

Humm, DID it? (work that is)

I’m not so sure. Guess it depends on what superficial ‘gain’ you think she may have achieved.

Now if you mean winning the NH primary, I’d say yeah, it worked..for HER!!

I’m far more concerned with the rest of us though, if you wanna really get into whether or not it ‘worked’.

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By cyrena, January 13, 2008 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment

Ok folks,
This is a tad bit curious, but I suspect maybe just a minor typo, and nothing to be real bugged about. But, you’ll see that it’s another piece from Bill Boyarsy, and is attributed to Truthdig, but I’ve not yet seen this PARTICULAR piece from Boyarsky, on the TD site. Instead, we’ve been discussing the one where he says Obama is ‘vague’.

Anyway, this was on TruthOUT, (which routinely carries articles from TruthDIG and Robert Scheer, and others who also contribute to Truthdig).
Anyway, I’m only just now getting a chance to get to it, and I thought I might share it, since it DOES appear to be a different piece from the one about Obama’s vagueness, and has additional and/or updated stuff on candidate positions on some of the primary issues.

The Battleground of New Hampshire
  By Bill Boyarsky
  Truthdig
  Monday 07 January 2008

The war is so costly, no president will be able to tackle key domestic issues like health care until we exit Iraq.

  Manchester, NH - When Hillary Clinton, seriously set back by the Iowa caucuses, landed in New Hampshire to resuscitate her presidential campaign, the first question from the audience was unsparingly blunt: “When will the troops come home?”

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010908E.shtml

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By cyrena, January 13, 2008 at 6:33 pm Link to this comment

Ah Purplewolf,

You do us proud girl. Nope, I’m not jealous either.

I wouldn’t mind the health coverage though…now THAT would be nice. I’d sort of like to have my old house back too, but that might be pushing things. (besides, it wasn’t even CLOSE to anything she’s enjoyed..still, I liked it well enough).

Other than that? Nope…I even preferred your own designer clothes purplewolf..the ones you custom make. I get all sorts of compliments. wink

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 12, 2008 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

Jealousy? You’ve Got To Be Kidding

By purplewolf, January 12: ”.... but seriously, does she look like a happy person? I am not happy all the time however, I obtain a lot of satisfaction from the fact I have a certain amount of freedom that Hillary never will…”

Ha ha, leaving aside the daughter (I have one too, uhh), you have delineated all that she has materially that you (and I) don’t have and all that you have emotionally that she doesn’t have, purplewolf.

Perhaps being a Clinton was really a grind for her and she wants the ultimate revenge of having her husband’s job. It is quite ironic if you think about it and it is a victory for all women in that regard. At least Bill is wearing it and that teaches men something too.

Obviously, then, Hillary has learned many things out of necessity. Can you say the same thing about your own feelings, though, purplewolf? Thus she MUST seek approval from everyone else to be able to achieve her goal.

She IS having to actually work for it and nothing is being handed to her now that she is really on the campaign trail as a presidential candidate. If that is not clear to you, it certainly is to the other candidates and their supporters.

I agree about Bush but that is NOT Hillary. Shedding a tear over emotional stress is quite human. Bush would never do that because he is not quite human. But please do remember your own humanity, purplewolf, and be kind to others.

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By purplewolf, January 12, 2008 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

Doug, Do you seriously think I am jealous of Hillary. I don’t know if I should feel flattered or not. Hmmm. Let’s see:

True she has more money than I do, my yearly income is well below the lowest levels on the questionnaires you see that ask about income levels, like the government Census every 10 years.

She has a cheating or former cheating husband and mine died in 1998.

We both have one daughter, both college educated.

Her house(s)is certainly bigger and more costly than mine and will have the latest gadgets and furnishings, most of mine are from family heirlooms or the Goodwill store.

She never has to worry about having enough money for necessities like food, medicine, shelter, clothing, repair bills, just to start with. Where Hillary hires everything done by others, I have learned how to repair it myself.

She can afford designer clothing, all at tax payer expense and I make my own. I have also made stage costumes for Will Millar formerly of the Irish Rovers, actual fact. I continue to make custom clothing for other people. She probably can’t even thread a needle.

Hillary’s personality lately seems to be unstable, ups, downs, crying. For someone who wants to run the country she better get a grip. She doesn’t appear to be able to handle stress very well. Yes, I get stressed but I try to use that stress to a constructive outcome where as she breaks down.

When there were rumors of her running in 2008, I thought I would vote for her. However, after watching her dodge or refuse to answer questions by turning away, something Bush does often also. I started to take a closer look at her. I didn’t like what I saw and the more she flip-flops, the more certain I am she is not the right person for the position.

Sure some might think I would be jealous, but seriously, does she look like a happy person? I am not happy all the time however, I obtain a lot of satisfaction from the fact I have a certain amount of freedom that Hillary never will. If I want to go someplace, I go and never worry about the Secret Service people who tag along all the time. I don’t have to worry that everything I do is going to be on the news or other media for the whole world to scrutinize. I never have to worry if someone else will be wearing the same dress at an event that I am wearing. I have learned many things out of necessity, can Hillary say the same thing ?

If you can’t find happiness or satisfaction within yourself you can never obtain it from other people. Hillary seems to be seeking approval from everyone else but herself. If she wasn’t, her personality would remain the same all the time, not different with different groups of people, even down to her accent she uses and her mannerisms. Having everything handed to a person doesn’t build character, having to actually work for it does. And I never liked whiny people from the time I very young and it remains the same today, especially whiny men-like Bush when he doesn’t get his own way the first time around.

So really Doug, do you still think I would be jealous of Hillary? You’ve got to be kidding.

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By Paracelsus, January 12, 2008 at 7:40 am Link to this comment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxTnHx5qVQU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu9TQq0C3Ac

I don’t feel no ways tired…

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By Pat Henry, January 12, 2008 at 12:32 am Link to this comment
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“Privet companies” ?  Really ... they must do hedge funds.  wink

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By Paracelsus, January 11, 2008 at 9:44 pm Link to this comment

“Hillary’s moment only underscores her humanity…”

Give me a break. She even tailors her dialect to fit the crowd she speaks to. Have you heard her Kentuckian mountain woman accent? She is fake. She is manipulative. She is condescending. She is also an illegal woman! wink I took that from one of her pander bear speeches to the Latino vote. You have to have zero self respect to vote for this woman. Finally the NH vote was fraudulent. The high cabal was way too obvious in their tampering with the election. Do you really want this creature in office through the intervention of an ex narco felon in the NH voting system?

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By Frank Cajon, January 11, 2008 at 9:26 pm Link to this comment

Just posted this elsewhere. I tip my hat to the spin doctor who figured that New Hamphire’s female Democrats were stupid enough to believe that this Prada-dressed, bankrolled elitist, millionaire pretender is ‘exhausted’ after two primary campaigns and a year from the election, and completely melts down on cue. What the HELL does she have to cry about? Her pharmaceutical backers’ quarterly dividends being below projections? Just another Clinton running another scam. We heard all this before when she blamed the accusations against her zipper-job, alleycat-morals hubby as being untrue manifestations of a right-wing conspiracy to defame him. Poor Hillary, life is so hard when you have everything, except honesty.

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By Paracelsus, January 10, 2008 at 6:40 am Link to this comment

Those psychopathic types are really good at turning on the waterworks at just the right moment. Bill would give us a throaty, “I feel your pain.” Put her in office, and we will still be stuck in Iraq. Remember we have a fortress embassy, and the Establishment has talked of a hundred years war against terrorism. This is just a reverse Nixon with a twist. Remember ‘68, and the Leaving the War with Honor crap. Le même chose ici. The Establishment was more heavy handed in ‘68 when it came to engineering the election with the crippling of George Wallace and the murder of RFK. They did not want to leave anything to chance. Rockefeller’s charity case case, Nixon, on his lord’s retainer after being kicked around so much, could now enter office. This time around the Establishment has crooked voting machines. All those assassinations and crashed commuter planes were starting to look too contrived, so they had to mix it up a bit. Funny how we have these elections where the polls are always wrong. Really funny.

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By Conservative Yankee, January 9, 2008 at 7:44 am Link to this comment
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“I get disgusted with whiny people regardless of gender.”

GREAT comment; BTW It seems there are far more of these “oh you hurt my feelings” folks than just a few years ago?

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By Sue, January 9, 2008 at 6:28 am Link to this comment
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It worked didn’t it, smile

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 8, 2008 at 5:52 pm Link to this comment

By purplewolf, January 8: “...take your hormones, or at least your Lithium pills. You seem to be suffering from PMS again…... this is not written by a male writer either picking on the so called weaker sex. It was written by another female….”

That clearly indidcates that you suffer from JEALOUSY, purplewolf.  I get disgusted with whiny people regardless of gender…., uhh.

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By purplewolf, January 8, 2008 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment

Didn’t Hillary pull this teary act before? And not that long ago. Come on Hill, take your hormones, or at least your Lithium pills. You seem to be suffering from PMS again. This emotional roller coaster ride I have seen you put on for over a year now wears thin. Lets hope you don’t make it to the WH as your emotions seem to get in the way of logic and common sense. Just like the WH residents now have swept truth and facts aside for the last 7+ years, we do not need another repeat for the next four years of emotional fits.

Disclaimer: No, this is not written by a male writer either picking on the so called weaker sex. It was written by another female. I get disgusted with whiny people regardless of gender. Bush included.

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By Alex Martin, January 8, 2008 at 2:54 pm Link to this comment
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Hillary was either calculting or hypocritical in her teary performance Monday.  Many of her supporters say it was sincere.
On Saturday after Obama and Edwards told wonderful heart felt stories about how personal this campaign was to them, Hillary chimed in, bursting the mood by saying that we needed a dose of reality instead of emaotional hopes.  This was a bad move on camera because instead of choosing her emotional issue that she finds personal, (so that there could have been one big Cum-bye-a moment for the Dems) she ridiculed it by saying we needed reality instead.  If she didn’t know this was a bad move after she said it, I’m sure her handlers did.  That’s why on Monday she had to show her softer side.  Even this seemed calculating to me because if it was truly personal, a tear might have been shed (too much), so instead she gave a choked up sound (emotional but not overly so as to make her too feminine).  So which is it Hillary, are you a cold and manipulatively calculting politician who can tear up on cue (and at the proper political level) or was your reality check a hypocritical poor choice of words to try to sound tough and score points with Republicans you won’t ever woo?

Let’s get on to a real story like the Sibel Edmonds ungagging bombshell in the Sunday London Times, please.

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By Conservative Yankee, January 8, 2008 at 2:39 pm Link to this comment
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“I just don’t want to see us fall backward as a nation,’ she said as her emotions rose.”
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Too late Mrs Business-shill. You your husband, the DLC and your alliance with the Bushes have reversedcourse for the middle class for at lease a decade… If you are really concerned about The USA….drop out, or better yet, drop dead!

We “Got along without you, before we met you, gonna get along without you now.”

bye bye baby!

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By rage, January 8, 2008 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment
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There, there, there, Hill, honey. You’re a big girl. You’re going to be alright. Suck it up, baby. When the boys were losing to you, they retained their dignity without tears. Everyone running for this thing wants to win it, sweety. Now, you don’t want to be publicly lumped with cry-babies like John Boener, Poppy Bush, and that twit on YouTube screaming for us to leave Brittney alone, sweetie, do you? Well, then, dry up and shake off Iowa and New Hampshire. This pissy weeping stunt does not mesh well with your reputation for being a recalcitrant nut-cracker. Into the President’s life, rain harder than this falls. If you can’t take the heat in the campaign skillet, what on earth are you going to do the 20th of January 2009 when the skillet is pulled away, and your Presidential fat is dropped directly into the naked flame of the Executive office of leadership of the Free World? An asbestos pantsuit can only sheild you so long, honey. A thick skin comes in handy.

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By Sue, January 8, 2008 at 11:28 am Link to this comment
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How come nothing was said about Mitt Romney when he teared up during his religion defending speech before the Iowa caucuses?

We’re all human at one time or another.

Let’s not make something so petty into something catasrophic because it involves Hillary.

Getting boring people, lets move on and start bashing someone else for a change.

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By themask, January 8, 2008 at 11:17 am Link to this comment

Well at least we know when “Billary” doesn’t win the nomination and certainly not the election - She will always have a career in Hollywood. Hell of a performance hillary…  I’m sure she shed lot’s of tears when her husband had Vince Foster Murdered.

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By Pat, January 8, 2008 at 10:58 am Link to this comment
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I’ve heard many people comment that the sentence that made Clinton so misty—“I have so many opportunities for this country”—makes no sense.  Well, actually, I think it does.  If we just stop with the first phrase, we hear “I have so many opportunities.”  Well, not so much anymore; thus the tears.  What she is really crying about is that the opportunity to be president seems to be slipping out of her grasp. 
Now, of course, it wouldn’t be publicly acceptable for her to straight-out make this statement.  So she adds “for this country” and goes on to attach the emotional display to her love of country.  I don’t doubt that she loves her country, but this emotional reaction is not about that at all; it’s about how disappointing it is to be working so hard for something that is not turning out as desired.

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By Sharon Ash, January 8, 2008 at 10:52 am Link to this comment
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I feel like crying when I read many of the hateful, meanspirited comments on these posts.  Why anyone even wants to be president of this country is the bigger question!

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By Vakil, January 8, 2008 at 9:52 am Link to this comment
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Of course Hillary can cry and has emotion.  She’s a human being.  They MAY be crocodile tears, as someone on this post has suggested, but that says nothing about Hillary as a person.  She can hardly be considered an overly emotional person.  She went through the exposing of her husband’s infidelity on world media without one public outburst.  Whatever may be said of her, she has done a pretty good job of maintaining a certain classiness in public.  Anyone who faults her for using this moment to show a little ‘humanity’ (if it was premeditated and false) is forgetting/ignoring the fact that we as voters choose candidates for rather superficial reasons.  How can we blame our candidates for treating us like shallow simpletons when decades of election results prove that we vote like shallow simpletons.  It says nothing positive or negative about her ability to lead or make policy decisions.

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By Liza, January 8, 2008 at 9:40 am Link to this comment

Why hasn’t anyone held Hillary’s feet to the fire when she claims that represents 35 years of change?  I will give her credit for 35 years of campaigning but please identify the policies enacted where she was the agent of change.  Does she have her career confused with that of her husband Bill?  She was elected to the senate in 2000 and the Democrats haven’t advanced much of anything since.

Hillary’s performance in the New Hampshire restaurant was intended to humanize her but it didn’t work very well.  She seemed to be whining more than speaking from the heart. 

One day she is in pit bull mode attacking Obama, the next day she is spilling her guts to strangers in a restaurant. 

So much for “inevitablity.”

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By Outraged, January 8, 2008 at 9:21 am Link to this comment

I don’t believe those crocodile tears for a minute.  Hopefully we won’t so easily forget how “sincere” and “conservative” GW was DURING HIS CAMPAIGN also.

Clinton is one of them, she’s proven it over and over again.  She is not for the people and everyone knows it.  If there was any validity to those tears it was the realization of the possible loss of the empire she had hoped to command.

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By Neighbour, January 8, 2008 at 7:08 am Link to this comment
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I am not from the US but I must say I get tired of the line, “Hillary haters”. I would like to see Kucinich or Edwards win so does that mean I hate all the others. NO! It means I like what they say. Especially their promise to get the troops home ASAP.

Do I hate the bush regime, YES!
Do I hate Hillary , NO. I find her to be fake, that’s all. Her agenda, IMO, is to prove something to Bill and without him she wouldn’t even be known.

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By RdV, January 8, 2008 at 5:46 am Link to this comment

As a woman, I am sick and disgusted by Clinton’s poor little girl act. What a princess she is-back when her throne was inevitable, she always had that smug, self-satisfied look after she responded to every softball tossed her way. How dare anyone roll up the red carpet of the Bush-Clinton dynasty!!!! Recall how they manipulated “Dean’s scream” (something the pundits still sneer at as if it was credible rather than manufactured)by replaying it endlessly and reinforcing the common perception that he was somehow off his nut—when he was holding a pep rally for his supporters. This poor widdle Hillary piece—a continuation of those-bad-boys-are-picking-on-me is cynically used for the sympathy vote and it stinks of Nixon-you-won’t-have-me-to-kick-around-anymore whining. On the one hand Clinton claims she has all this experience—and then she wails about the country “falling backwards”. Ahh—excuse me, Senator Clinton, but the reason the rallying cry of “change” is so inspiring is because folks are sick of the enabling trend promoted by the DLC brand of new Democrat that done brought us to the brink of the abyss. Instinctively they grasp at the concept-without realizing Obama’s happy talk of bi-partisanship and unity employed as triangulation strategy ultimately leads to capitulation.The problem is Obama is a slicker operator than Hillary. the last thing we need in these times is a weepy woman—-gees could you make it any worse for the rest of us, Hillary?

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By d.alon, January 8, 2008 at 5:11 am Link to this comment
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Bill Clinton capitalized on the “centrist” platform at a time when the majority of the nation was still swooning over Reganomics and their supply side theory.  We’ve since seen the effects of these policies and have correctly noted that they have brought us dangerously close to full blown fascism. 

Everyone (alright…most) now knows that we cannot continue to support the corporatism of the neo cons and the free trade policies that Bill gave us and that Bush went to war over. Couple support for these policies and Hillary’s complicity in the wars and stripping us of our liberty… Sorry Hillary, corporatism is not gonna fly this time around no matter how much you cry. 

People feel that someone is writing on the wall, but don’t see who and what it is they are writing.  They seem unable to channel their frustrations and fear into anything substantive.  The corporate media - it HAS to be a conspiracy to keep people dumb.  I get so sick watching them cover this race without speaking to a candiates position on a single issue, and instead opting to talk about the race itself - her emotional moment, the poll numbers, where they spoke today, what celebrity is endorsing who, etc.  So unfortunately we are about to nominate a preacher who makes us feel good about ourselves while stabbing us in the back.

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By Pat Henry, January 8, 2008 at 1:44 am Link to this comment
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As a post-menopausal male wink I can tear up too when I think of the sad state of our Country under the Bush 43 administration.  Hillary’s moment only underscores her humanity, too often suppressed in her attempt to appear strong and capable. 

There are lots of Hillary-haters out there, just as there was incredible animus over Bobby Kennedy in the early ‘60’s.  As Mike Huckabee said in another context: “We’re a better country than that!” 

I will support Hillary if she’s the Party candidate, or any other Democrat for that matter.  We must turn things around.  It breaks my heart to witness how far we’ve fallen in eight short years.

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By mackTN, January 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm Link to this comment

More interesting than the real reason for Hillary’s tears is the story on how the media is having to rewrite the campaign story. 

I stumbled upon a blog by a journalism instructor last week. Its focus is the rhetorical formula of today’s journalists and how they have veered more and more into the kind of storytelling that is designed to satisfy their principle audience—advertisers—because it engages and delivers what advertisers pay for—us, the consumer.

So the 2008 campaign is written like a soap opera or tv series—we connect to that.  Each day, there’s a cliffhanger.  If nothing’s happening, the journalists start instigating (“I want to play for you something that Hillary said about yo mama yesterday—now what do you say about that?”)  Add the pundits, predictions, polls—none of it established fact—and you’re off to the races, crafting an episode worthy of West Wing.

So now there’s a new story.  If Hillary drops out, Obama’s story could get boring.  They’ll have to find a viable antagonist, an obstacle to put in his way.  They’ll probably try to get some black people to say they won’t vote for Obama; then they can report that all of a sudden Edwards looks good in SC because he has so much black support.  Could Obama’s moment in the sun be over?  Then they’ll….

Sorry, I was really getting into it.  I think you get my drift, no?

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By Lauren Hall, January 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm Link to this comment
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I worry about saying that dissing one of your own isn’t smart.  Should I not diss Bush because I’m an American?  That’s what he and his supporters say.

When a candidate in my party does something that I find damaging to the country or immoral I think it is my duty as a patriot and a human to call them on it.  I will continue to diss Hillary,Lieberman, the neocons, and many, many others, for their votes on Iraq, the Patriot Act, cluster bombs, Kyl/Lieberman, etc. because I consider those votes immoral and damaging to the country.

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By mackTN, January 7, 2008 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment

I would never have voted for Hillary—ever.  All that haughtiness and refusals to answer questions have now crumbled into a new kind of confessional and vulnerable openness…because she is losing.  And I imagine it hurts a lot.  Despite her mistakes, she is no Joe Liebermann and while she deserves to be roughed up a little in a fair fight, I don’t think she merits a steel-toed ass-kicking.

Hillary got caught looking old against the hormonal surge that pulsates around Obama.  Middle-aged myself, I recognize as aspect of the rejection she’s encountering.  Older women are prematurely devalued in this country; a jowl drops and you’re kicked off the air, replaced by the tight-assed college grad with perky tits that aren’t really a factor because she’s so smart!  Experience and wisdom—the kind that comes from having made a lot of mistakes that you overcame to keep you not only standing but thrusting forward—are reduced to utterances shouted against the wind.  (After all, you’re wearing Easy Spirits not stillettos and there’s that bulge fold protruding under your bra in the back.) 

Let’s not kick her ass out the door.  She doesn’t deserve that.  She’s done more with her life than many of us have—despite being married to a man who embarassed her all over the planet.  I didn’t want her for president, but I’ll give her a standing ovation as she exits stage left.

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By troublesum, January 7, 2008 at 8:39 pm Link to this comment

Consider this:
When the Clintons entered the white house in 93 they didn’t have a pot to piss in.  Today their wealth is estimated at $12 million and growing.  Clinton receives from $500,000 to $1,000,000 for speeches and appearences around the world.  Being president today means the chance to amass a personal fortune.  You’d cry too if you saw that opportunity going down the drain.

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By Louise, January 7, 2008 at 8:13 pm Link to this comment

“I just don’t want to see us fall backward as a nation,” she said as she became more upset.”

I doubt there’s a dem alive could take the nation any farther backward than we have been led in the last eight years!

Unless they CHOSE to STAY in Iraq! And CHOSE to maintain CURRENT foreign and fiscal policy!

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By don knutsen, January 7, 2008 at 8:11 pm Link to this comment
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I haven’t the right to say her tears weren’t real or that that she dosen’t realize how badly broken our democracy is right now. But the fact is her husband while he was in the white house sheparded thru some of the trading policy decisions that have come back to bite us in the arse and are part & parcell of what has ended up in jobs overseas and lowered the employment oppurtunities here at home. These were decisions being pushed by corporations and the welfare of the american worker was not near the top of their priorities in lobbying for these free trade agreements and how they were structured. That being followed by an administration that didn’t even pretend to care about the middle class and you see what we have now. Yet she uses her experience as the wife of Clinton to bolster the case that she has been tested and has the experience to make a change ? Was it that vast experience that pushed her to vote for the start and continued funding of the Cheney / Bush clusterfuck that is Iraq ? I believe that amongst the three the media is allowing us to vote for, that John Edwards is the only one whose message is speaking to the evaporating middle class of this country. Not HIllary who is just the democratic part of the same greased wheel. Its too early now, but wouldn’t an Edwards / Obama ticket be interesting.

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By Joe, January 7, 2008 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment
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I don’t fault Hillary for being human. Actually, though she’s not my choice, she and the remaining Democrats have appeared calm and reasoned in their public appearances in the last 2-3 weeks. I support Congressman Paul but my view now is that any of the Democrats and one Republican, Huckabee, would likely move the country away from war and fiscal ruin. Guiliani, McCain and Thompson are an arms-merchant’s wet-dream. Romney, though something of a bunghole, would probably be a decent manager for the country.

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By Douglas Chalmers, January 7, 2008 at 7:40 pm Link to this comment

At least she doesn’t talk out the side of her mouth like a new young (black) Dick Cheney…....

1,000 or 2,000…... who cares? They aren’t numbers! And she can talk like a human being. That’s more than some do with the way the talk about her…....

Dissing one’s own Democrat party candidate is not very smart. But I guess that shows the immaturity of the age group supporting Obama.

They are a smaller percentage of the population now, in case you haven’t noticed. Just because they are bothering to actually come out to vote is nothing conclusive…...

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By driving bear, January 7, 2008 at 5:52 pm Link to this comment

If you want to know the real reason for her tears read this
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashhn.htm

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