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Maher Calls for a Middle-Class Uprising

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Posted on Nov 4, 2007
Bill Maher

The “Real Time” host takes aim at the über-rich, as well as the disadvantaged who vote against their own economic self-interests, because “In America it’s not the haves and have nots, it’s the haves and been hads.”

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By Christian, November 19, 2007 at 11:35 am Link to this comment
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Kos is still a Republican. His pathetic, indefensible sliming of Kucinich just shows how far inside the gates he is. And Maher is a smug pompous elitist. They both represent MSM thinking now.

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By The Village Idiot, November 9, 2007 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment

I’ve seen UFO’s. They were just some lights in the sky that I couldn’t identify, that’s all. If it was an alien spaceship it wouldn’t be a UFO because I’d have identified it as… an alien spaceship!
Still, it’s best to not mention anything along those lines because the MSM and those who lap it up seem to be incapable of reporting or understanding such subtle nuances. And for what it’s worth, my father was stationed in the Arctic Circle in the 1950’s, watching a radar screen for an attack by the Red Menace. He’d scramble the fighters several times a week for UFO’s, most of which were never found by the fighter pilots, though some of them may have been false blips because it was 50’s technology (which I assume an advanced alien race could defeat). The ones that were found were planes that weren’t on the list of expected flights for whatever reason.

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By Rowdy, November 9, 2007 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment
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I’m with you guys, David and RoniG…
All we hear about is why can’t we elect someone other than the usual flavor-of-the-month then when a genuine progressive like Dennis Kucinich comes along all we hear is about his UFO sighting.

Why is Kos afraid of Dennis?  I’ve been barred from posting any questions on DK regarding Kucinich… I also don’t’ get posted on Josh Marshall’s sites either (TPM, et al).

they all want fresh new ideas, but then fall into the same tactics MSM does by dismissing the s0-called “fringe” candidates, because “they’re not electable.”  Well, they might be if you gave them some support!

Go Dennis ‘08!

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By PaulMagillSmith, November 9, 2007 at 1:50 pm Link to this comment

RE: #112342 by RoniG on 11/08 at 7:59 am
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“The KOS owner stating that Kucinich saw a UFO. I have never personally seen a UFO, at least not definitively, but what bearing does that have on anything related to his run for the Presidency? Thousands, if not more, have reported seeing UFO’s. Does that make them worthy of discrediting? I say no!”


Actally, there was a poll that came ot the other day stating 14% of Americans admit to having seen a UFO.

Is that any crazier than believing in the rupture er…rapture, or that dinosaurs and humans co-existed, or an imaculate conception, things over 20% of Americans profess as facts, yet can’t prove?

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By RoniG, November 9, 2007 at 9:19 am Link to this comment
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Good question David! I don’t have an answer. I spent the morning on 11/5 calling all of the sponsors and my representatives asking them to stand firm in their resolve to support or to support the bill, as appropriate. I referred specifically for them to not allow Nancy Pelosi to table the vote. Nancy made a lot of promises when the Dems took control of House and so far she has been one the worst milktoasts I can recall as speaker for quite some time. I can’t help but wonder who is lining her pockets to avoid the hard issues. The notion that impeachment will hurt the Dems in the upcoming elections is absurd and spineless. When Nixon was impeached it helped the Dems, not hurt them.

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By David, November 8, 2007 at 3:25 pm Link to this comment
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Speaking of disregarding Kucinich (RonnieG), why the hell is there nothing on this Truthdig site about the articles of impeachment he just brought against Cheney?

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, November 8, 2007 at 2:47 pm Link to this comment

#112215 by DennisD

But, doesn’t all the hardware, armoured HumVees, fighter jets, bombs, bunkerbusters, grenades, and all that sophisticated war materiel that the military and police have unbalance the scales somewhat?  Flamethrowers, howitzers, huge cannons, smart bombs, laser guided missiles, stuff we don’t even know about.  This isn’t any longer 1776.  Then there’s the highly evolved military science.  But, you might be right.  It’d be interesting if not deadly.  How well-regulated can a militia be?

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By RoniG, November 8, 2007 at 8:59 am Link to this comment

I really couldn’t care less who Bill personally supports in the Democratic race. I am bothered that when Martin Short brought up Dennis Kucinich they were shutdown by Bill and the KOS owner. The KOS owner stating that Kucinich saw a UFO. I have never personally seen a UFO, at least not definitively, but what bearing does that have on anything related to his run for the Presidency? Thousands, if not more, have reported seeing UFO’s. Does that make them worthy of discrediting? I say no! If Bill likes Ron Paul that is his choice, but don’t do what the rest of mainstream media is doing and suppress or censor opportunity to discuss the other candidates. Based on that action, I feel that Bill has lost what little credibility he had with me. I am not a fan, but I will watch because he can be humorous at times and tackle issues that aren’t popular in the mainstream, but now he has taken a step to place himself within the mainstream by his action. I hope he will do better in the future. Dennis is a man of peace and has a platform that is extremely appealing to the poor, low income, lower middle class, and middle class Americans. His platforms would enrage and disinfranchise the rich…boohoo. Perhaps that is what has Bill so bothered. If that is the case, then Bill is a hypocrite, based on his past commentary.

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By PaulMagillSmith, November 8, 2007 at 3:00 am Link to this comment

For those of you who have the belief it is the people controlled who are at fault, rather than the controllers, I think you need to look at this:

http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/

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By DennisD, November 7, 2007 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment
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#111915 by Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD on 11/06 at 7:15 am

Good Doctor, ultimately it’s simple math. Take the number of weapons in this country, registered and unregistered, (according to Gunsafe.org 235,000,000 -  the number of men and women who can use them that are not in the military or police out of 273,000,000). Conservatively speaking, I think we’re talking in the millions and probably tens of millions if not more, against how many police and military that would be willing to fight for a status quo that obviously benefits very few of them.

As we’ve said it’s not likely to happen because most lack the will to make it happen but the means are certainly there. Pretty much as the Founders of the country intended, unfortunately they aren’t around any longer to give the majority the will to do what’s necessary.

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By frank1569, November 7, 2007 at 4:30 pm Link to this comment

Great show. Except - BM’s all talk, as usual. What, besides earning millions for, er, talking, has he done regarding his call for an “uprising?” Was he out there holding a sign a couple of weeks back? Guest speaking at a rally? Has he stopped paying taxes? Been volunteering at the soup kitchen lately? Refused to work for the MSM?

A real inspiration he is…

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By mary, November 7, 2007 at 11:27 am Link to this comment

Another great show, Bill. Maybe if you and Keith Obermann keep stirring the pot, Americans will start thinking.  It’s worth a try…...

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By The Village Idiot, November 6, 2007 at 8:28 pm Link to this comment

That was a great monologue.

Somehow, Israel and 7/11 (or was it 9?) ended up in the comments section yet again. I don’t think Israel forced anyone to buy giant, inefficient SUV’s, or sprawling McMansions, or hyper-processed ChemFood, or shoved trans-fat down our throats until our hearts stopped, or just about any of the things we do of our own accord that make our lives less-than-ideal.

There are many problems in the world, and they aren’t all Israel’s fault, but there appears to be many one-trick ponies in the commentary circus who disagree. Does Israel turn my thermostat up to 75 in winter and down to 65 in summer, then instruct me to complain about our dependence on fossil fuel? Is the movie “Super Size Me” not a valid critique until it’s creator says that 9/11 was an inside job? That’s how ridiculous this is getting. At this pont, it’s all just so many angry pixels on our screens no matter what position one takes.

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By BobZ, November 6, 2007 at 4:34 pm Link to this comment

Last Friday’s show was one of Maher’s best, with guest like Plame/Wilson, and the author of “Blackwater”. Maher’s closing comment is the basis of the several books about why the middle class votes against their own economic self interest. Some of it is values based rhetoric that they believe in, some is decades long resentment in southern states against Democrats voting for civil rights, and a large part of it is the middle class believes it won’t be middle class forever, but that soon they will be part of the ruling elites and they don’t want to vote against them. Then you have the media and right wingers who are constantly railing against anybody who votes for their economic self interest by calling it “class warfare”. Teddy Roosevelt and FDR would not recognize today’s voters who vote for Republicans. Maher is the best reason to subscribe to HBO.

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By Bill Blackolive, November 6, 2007 at 11:23 am Link to this comment
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Bill, till you take heart and look at the 9/ll coverup you are merely one entertainer.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, November 6, 2007 at 8:15 am Link to this comment

#111847 Dennis,
Dr. - you must be joking. The power is and always has been with the people, we certainly have the police and military far out numbered and outgunned. Who even says they’d all fight to keep the status quo. Most aren’t getting rich and I don’t see them killing their own. I think you surely overestimate the threat and/or response.

It’s the will that’s lacking for most people and it’s just unimaginable for a lot more. The hard times that are coming might just change that. In the meantime, stock up on ammunition. The country you save may just be your own.

Dennis, not really.  As long as the military and the police side with the establishment, rank and file Americans don’t stand a chance, unless, of course, we resort to guerilla warfare and terrorism. And that would unlikely get results.  As you suggest, a police/military defecting from the establishment is one possibility. 

As I see it, the only real power the middle class might have is economic, i.e., refusing to work and/or spend. But this would probably be as difficult to organize and implement as putting up a viable independent candidate and getting him/her elected.  The will, as you suggest, seems not to be there. 

I am intrigued by your opinion that a militia could outdo the military and police.  There’s something I’m not getting, I guess. Which side is Blackwater on?

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By PaulMagillSmith, November 5, 2007 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment

Old Irish saying, “The rich write the laws, while the poor suffer and write the songs”

To which I’ll add my own thoughts:

“Rather than a long quiet life counting ill gotten gain, I’ll opt for a shorter one filled with music”

Which kind of goes along with:

“Pot will get you through times without money better than money will get you through times without pot”

We have been set upon by a gang of fascist thugs in America now, but if we forget how to laugh in the face of adversity they have us beaten already.

Bill, while I realize you might be a bit paranoid about protecting your job after the ream job the corporatists did on you a few years back for being Politically Incorrect, it’s time for you to decide if your self-respect is more important than your job. Please watch the video in the link 911truthdotorg provided. 100+ million Americans can’t be entirely wrong.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2007/0511 07_inside_job.htm

After that check out:

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Maybe some day you will realize we are all in this sinking boat together…yourself included.

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By DennisD, November 5, 2007 at 7:55 pm Link to this comment
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#111728 by Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD on 11/05 at 4:52 am

“And we know we’re no match for the US military and the police—we’re simply outgunned—what options are left?”

Dr. - you must be joking. The power is and always has been with the people, we certainly have the police and military far out numbered and outgunned. Who even says they’d all fight to keep the status quo. Most aren’t getting rich and I don’t see them killing their own. I think you surely overestimate the threat and/or response.

It’s the will that’s lacking for most people and it’s just unimaginable for a lot more. The hard times that are coming might just change that. In the meantime, stock up on ammunition. The country you save may just be your own.

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By 911truthdotorg, November 5, 2007 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment

Hey, Bill, does this guy need Paxil too??  Schmuck!!

Is This 20-Year CIA Vet Crazy For Saying 9/11 Is a Probable Inside Job?

Debunkers not so quick to attack hugely respected intelligence & foreign policy expert Robert Baer

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2007/051107_inside_job.htm

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By loveinatub, November 5, 2007 at 5:31 pm Link to this comment

Another excellent new rules by Maher. This is truly his best segment of the entire hour. He scores time and time again because he’s able to speak his mind and his version of the “truth” which resonates so strongly with me. grin)))

He does indeed correctly identify the culprit for why a country keeps it’s middle class ignorant, stupid and constantly voting against it’s own self-interest. “Joe public” fairs poorly when it comes to democracy. While a democracy is supposed to serve the people it represents, it’s amazing how poorly the people serve their government.

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By ATexan, November 5, 2007 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment
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Please people do not blame the public.  The public
get its information from the news media which is
owned and controlled by the “haves”.  Because of
the continuous din in the public ears, many people think it is their fault if they are struggling or think that some day they will be rich themsleves.

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By Kimi K, November 5, 2007 at 12:54 pm Link to this comment
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To J Doe: I don’t think Isreal is a major factor here.  I think oil is the reason for the mess we’ve made in the Middle East.  With all the former oil exec in the Bush administration is it really such a surprise?  Look for the oil companies to push the envelope on the price of oil in the waning days of this administraion.
These people will maximize their power and wealth at any cost to the rest of us & we just keep taking it like a battered spouse.

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By Grace Anderson, November 5, 2007 at 10:41 am Link to this comment
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Money means power.  Big money means big power.  Didn’t Jefferwon say demcracy could not exist with individal great wealth.  A viking song about their country where few have too much and fewer still have too little seems like something I read.

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By kevtao, November 5, 2007 at 8:40 am Link to this comment
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Many years ago one of my co-workers tragically committed suicide. My company brought in a grief counselor and I asked him what it is that brings a person to do it. Everybody has trauma at some point in their lives, it is unavoidable. But what brings a person to take their own life?
He said it is a combination of feeling helpless and hopeless. It is a combination I see time and time again in the comments of readers at truthdig and other websites dedicated to reporting the news that the main stream media ignores or distorts.
Basically I’m saying our country is suicidal. If the impending economic collapse doesn’t bring about the middle-class uprising Bill Maher calls for, what other catalyst would bring the masses to action one way or another?

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By ShiningStar4ur12, November 5, 2007 at 6:22 am Link to this comment
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I agree with Mr. Billis’ comment.  As in one’s personal life, ‘you get what you deserve’, however, more importantly, “you get what you settle for”.  What will we settle for in 2008?

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, November 5, 2007 at 5:52 am Link to this comment

So, we know we’ve been had by the haves.  And we know we can’t make change through the ballot box.  And we know we’re no match for the US military and the police—we’re simply outgunned—what options are left?  You have to WANT a government outlined by a constitution in order to have it.  Apparently, not enough want it.

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By J. Doe, November 5, 2007 at 5:29 am Link to this comment
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Bill Maher misses the point entirely.  This country’s unconditional support of Israel is an underlying root cause of this country’s current problems.  Bill Maher is a Israel-first supporter so he is either ignorant of this fact or he is a hypocrite.  I am guessing the latter.

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By BushWacked, November 5, 2007 at 3:44 am Link to this comment
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Great job Bill.

How can so many people, blessed with so much, be so damn STUPID?

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By thomas billis, November 5, 2007 at 2:22 am Link to this comment
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Bill is stating the obvious of course the public has been had.But a good con only works if you have a gullible greedy mark and the voters of America come up high on both counts.As one much smarter than myself said"every people gets the government it deserves”.

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By GW=MCHammered, November 5, 2007 at 12:34 am Link to this comment
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re: #111678 by nonesuch

‘Dislike’ and ‘Less’ is all you’re about. Bill stands for something even bigger than <u>he</u>, the Red-White-Blue Team. Not just the extremely narrow Red-Blue. Ugh!

No GOP/DEM in ‘08!

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By nonesuch, November 4, 2007 at 9:09 pm Link to this comment
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haha, Just when I thought I couldn’t dislike the guy any more, I find myself liking him even less.

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By PaulMagillSmith, November 4, 2007 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment

Always on target, Bill, and keep up the good work. Thanks for having my sister’s (Susann Fletcher) friend, Martin Short, on your show. You’re both great, and I can only imagine the pre/after show laughs.

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By Donovan, November 4, 2007 at 5:10 pm Link to this comment
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I like how he correctly identifies the culprit for why the country is the way it is: the public.  It’s the fault of the fucking public who elects (and sometimes not) the same asshole politician over and over again.

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