“It’s called controlled demolition. And, the military is quite good at it.

Is any building that falls down a controlled demolition?  How would you have expected the towers to fall?  Where do you get that the military is good at CD?  Was the event in St Louis done by the military, or private contractors? 

As far as the CD of the WTC’s:
1) what are the devices/chemicals that would be used in the demolition?
2) how were they able to apply them all, without anyone seeing or getting curious about them?
3) how many people were involved, and when did they do the work?
4) If all these devices were new technology/state of the art explosives, how did they know how to apply them in the single largest demolition job in the history of mankind? With no previous experience or knowledge about how they would work in a real world situation?
 
These are the types of things sane and reasoning people ask, instead of just relating current events to something remembered from 1972.

the bias of this site is rather clear in the text of this post. 

“The fracas was so entertaining that HBO aired the entire incident on the West Coast feed, which could have easily been edited.”

Why would they edit it?  A bunch of idiots who believe everything that alex jones and dylan avery tells them interrupt a live tv show, and are kicked out.  This shows how insane and annoying the ‘thruth’ movement is, and it should be show.  If people are to lazy to fact check the things the truth leaders tell them, then they deserve to be shown in a poor light.  Seriously, i need to start a conspiracy web site, it has got to be a gold mine. 

Good job on bill, people like this do not deserve public access, i would give it to the young earth creationists and the no moon landing folks first.

If you don’t think there’s been an adequate investigation, then demand an investigation.  By stating that controlled explosive brought the towers down, you lose all credibility.

And on the controlled explosives thing.  The video clearly shows the collapse of both towers started at the impact site.  I have yet to hear an explanation as to how these explosives survided the impact.  And no,  “What about WTC7?” is not a suitable explanation.

It’s not so much believing whether or not there was a conspiracy, it’s believing there was a truly honest and open investigation.  We do know two things, this Admin is neither honest or open.  Transparentcy would be the only way to conduct the investigation of such a horrible crime against our citizens. Bill Mahr could very well be protecting his show, I can’t blame him for that.  This season does seem to be a little off his game.  More interesting and telling than the “incident” was Matthews comments.  Seems to me he is trying to center himself in anticipation of losing his inside contacts when the creepy right is replaced by the balless left.  I mean where was all this insight when the moron was preaching war in Iraq, especially in 04.  It’s fun to watch them all doing their little dance.  We all know how much Matthews HATES the Clintons and he is praying for Sen Clinton to get the Democratic nomination so he can spend another year spewing his hateful crap with the hope his buddy Rudy gets elected.  Matthews is a smart guy, he’s got to know another 4 years of this kind of “rule” is going to destroy this country.  But, he is so blinded by his hate for prochoice Democrats he can’t see straight.

I’m not sure what not celebrating Christmas is designed to do, however I am in favor of not spending money to put China’s poison under our Christmas Trees.  It couldn’t hurt to give your children a passed down family treasure, or maybe a ball and jump rope, something with no batteries or electricity and must be used outdoors. It sure would be nice to put a real hurt on Corp America.  I’m all for that…...

Careful, Akira_Maritias.  I was called a bigot the last time I linked to Maddox’s 911 cartoons on this site.  I’m not sure why it made me a bigot, but it still hurt ever so much.

I would just like to point out that I did not presume to know who was behind the use of explosives in bringing down the buildings in NYC on 9/11/2001.  I am just stating that it is obvious to me, in light of what evidence has survived, that what I see in the video of those buildings coming down does not resemble the gradual failure of structure and non-symmetrical collapse that would be caused by fire and gravity.

The shock of the impact of the airliners was absorbed by the structure of the buildings within seconds of impact.  They oscillated momentarily and then the load of the building was redistributed across the intact structure, as was designed into the buildings, and the buildings stabilized. 

The Twin Towers were designed to be able to withstand the full impact of a Boeing 707, the largest airliner flying at the time of their design, and the principal engineer on the project has stated that the buildings could probably have withstood “multiple” 707 impacts.  The 707, because of a higher flight speed and roughly the same mass as a 767 presents a very similar impact energy as the planes that hit the towers.  So airliner impact cannot be considered to be a factor at the moment of collapse, roughly one hour after the crashes at each tower.

If you can get a video of the towers coming down with sound, turn the volume up.  The tremendous roar is from thousands of synchronized demolition charges.  People tend to think that if explosives were used they should hear a big “boom,” but instead, because many, many charges are detonated in bringing down a building, the sound is more like an ocean wave.

Richard Gage, an architect with many years of experience designing reinforced steed structures has put together a compelling presentation of the evidence that the buildings in NYC that came down were brought down with demolition charges.  You can view his presentation at:

  http://www.ae911truth.org/

There is a fascinating and shocking article on the missing billions in unmarked and unregistered $100 bills that were shipped by semi truck on pallets to Andrews AFB and the flown to Baghdad on C-141 aircraft by Bartlett and Steele entitled “Billions Over Baghdad.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/10/iraq_billions200710

In that article they detail how two recently retired Army Rangers were given $100 million in cash, in several installments, to provide security for commercial airline flights into Baghdad.  Of course, no such flights ever happened, so those guys were given $100 million for nothing.  Or was it for nothing?  Were those guys demolition experts?  A company called “Ace Elevator,” which has since been dissolved, had a contract to upgrade the elevators in the Twin Towers for 9 months prior to 9/11/2001.  I would think it would be appropriate to interview surviving security and maintenance personnel from the WTC, show them photos of Custer and Battles, the two retired Rangers who got all that cash, and inquire as to whether or not those men frequented the Towers prior to 9/11.  It is leads like that that need to be investigated that have not been investigated.

Incredible as it may seem, there have been no trials, no indictments and no - yes that’s right - no - zero subpoenas issued to investigate what happened on 9/11/2001. While the 9/11 Commission, made up of lawyers and Washington insiders instead of scientists and structural engineers, fought against having subpoena power for reasons that are not clear, it was granted over their wishes, but was never used, not even once.

It is facts like these that are causing informed and concerned people to call for a full and complete investigation of the events of 9/11/2001.

Bill your just another Media gimmick. Have the balls to present 9/11 Truth seekers a forum too.

Didn’t Maher risk loosing his show? That’s when someone sat down w/him and had it explained to him the way he never had it explained to him before.

You took the brown bag too Maher and now you no longer matter.

Morons. 9/11 truthers grab onto the fact that steel melts at a super high temperature and -instantly- assume that they have solid proof that it was an inside job. Never mind that steel goes to 50% strength at the temperature of the ignited fuel, and that steel at 50% strength DOES fall apart; we WANT our government to want to kill us, dammit!

Morons. Idiots on a level that makes me want to bash my skull in. I just can’t believe that anyone could be so stupid…

I can’t be kind about this: I hear someone who adamantly believes that 9/11 was a hoax, and I want to bash their skulls in. I really do. Not only are they deciding that Osama is an innocent man that had nothing to do with this, but they have decided that our government has -no- qualms with slaughtering thousands of us and then would be COMPLETELY incapable of stopping this rumor from circulating. After all, we know that the government can’t stop TEENAGERS. OH HELL NO. The government can only make firefighters, police officers, entire cities, airplane pilots, family victims, army generals, military officials, congress, CIA, FBI, analysts, steel workers, hospital workers, and white house staff simultaneously lie AND keep it covered up for years. I probably missed a few groups, but keep in mind that our government would have to probably get upwards of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE to lie JUST TO KILL SOME CIVILIANS. For Christs sake, how retarded are you morons to think that this is even REMOTELY feasible?

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Read it. Get your head out of your ass and read it, and then come to me and whine out another post about big bad government trying to murder us all for no reason. You can see that Bush has no qualms with starting a war for NO reason (Iraq) so why the -hell- would he try to MAKE a reason to go to Afghanistan?

I have still never heard from any conspiracy-minded type how they can accept that this so-called conspiracy could have been so well executed and so well covered up by an administration that has proven itself to be so utterly incompetent in executing a battle plan or covering up malfeasance. 

Really, the amount of planning, the number of people involved from so many branches of government and the military would be staggering.  This administration couldn’t keep it quiet when two people drove across town to a hospital to talk to the Attorney General.  They cannot keep the minutes of classified briefings under wraps.  Almost every day, we hear about something else being leaked to the press.  But we’re supposed to believe that six years after slaughtering several thousand American citizens, not a single conspirator has experienced a guilty conscience and come forward? Not a single assistant, husband, wife, son, daughter or friend of a conspirator has stumbled upon any evidence? 

Your current administration is corrupt, incompetent and criminal.  Hate them for what they are and for what they do.  Not for what you wish they did.

What a great commentary reaction to Bill Mahr. It’s a delight to read these views, from folks who obviously are not fooled.

Kind of sad in a way, because I’ve generally enjoyed him, and his shows.

But, I’m thinking like 911truthdotorg…He must really be spooked. And of course we know he’s had his ‘troubles’ before. I’m sure he’s been well advised to stay within the limits, since it could be more than just a firing/economic lynching the next time.

Still, he went way too far with the campus stuff…apparently deciding to join the ranks of the swarm that has decended upon University Campuses, in the name of promoting Islamo-PHOBIA, just a further extension of the phony ‘war on terror’ that has lost it’s effectiveness, since even the dumbest of ‘we the people’ can only be ‘fooled’ for so long.

I’d say the Thugs in the District of Cheney are becoming ever more desperate, if they’ve managed a way to co-opt Bill Mahr. He wouldn’t be the first.

Meantime, RAGE, you mentioned on another post, about arranging to just NOT celebrate Christmas this year. Sounds like an excellent idea!! REALLY. And, there’s actually TIME to work that up, if we can start soon.

I don’t have a whole lot of time myself, but I can make some. I’m not sure how to get it started, maybe some sort of a website, (don’t know how to put it together) and then just a blitz of notice. (I can do that). So, if anybody else wants to step it with that, and offer some suggestions to kick it off, we can make this Christmas a big statement, by choosing to celebrate it, by NOT celebrating it.

This would serve a multitude of purposes.

There is also an event that has been organized for Oct 27, the link is here.

...“Maybe it’s time we took over the country with a massive collective meaning-filled movement for peace.”

Meantime, SHAME on you Bill. We had come to expect more. Shame, shame, shame.

http://www.oct27.org

Fire and gravity have never toppled a single steel reinforced building ever in in the entire history of the existence of such structures.

I challenge Bob Greenberg or anyone else to submit a documented case of fire causing a steel reinforced building to collapse occurring anywhere on Earth. 

I realize that it has been claimed that it happened three times on 9/11/2001, but those claims are in question. I mean any instance that was investigated in the proper way for reasons of public safety related to future building design.  For those reasons alone the steel from the buildings and other evidence should not have been removed before such an investigation was complete.

A good place to start a serious investigation would be to determine who made the decisions to remove evidence from a crime scene before the investigation was complete.  That is a felony.

Bill Maher is either a completely blind , ignorant moron (along with everyone else who believes the official lie), or he’s been threatened by HBO or the bush crime family not to touch this subject.

Please read this excellent article by Bill Douglas about Maher’s Fri night show…it’s long, but a good read:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bill_dou_071021_the_bill_maher_real_.htm

Google videos:
9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition, 9/11 Mysteries, Terror Storm

Apparently a large number of Americans disagree with Maher about some unusual circumstances regarding the 9/11 attacks.

It’s not just the people in his audience ... many Americans are wondering about this “new Pearl Harbor” and who was involved in it.

Food for thought in the two articles ...

“Viewpoints on 9/11 attacks span continuum of concerns”

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=13487

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“Questions about 9/11 attacks include wide range of factors”

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=13249

Why were no members of the military disciplined for the massive failure of our defenses on 9/11/2001?  I read that several colonels were relieved of duty over the recent incident where a B52 loaded with H-bombs flew over the U.S.

Why was no one relieved of duty over 9/11?  Is it because the likely defense that they were “only following orders” would have led to uncomfortable questions?

Maher is funny, in a sarcastic way, but he does not strike me as someone who excelled in hard subjects like math and science.  So, maybe he does not have the ability to understand that the buildings in NYC could not have done what they did unless there was an energy source besides fire and gravity.

Fire and gravity cannot blow a building to smithereens.