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Bill Maher on Phony Patriotism

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Posted on Oct 14, 2007
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The “Real Time” host agrees with Barack Obama that wearing an American flag pin is but a token of patriotism that probably doesn’t amount to much: “Show me a man wearing an American flag pin in his lapel, and I’ll show you an a--hole.”

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By cann4ing, October 18, 2007 at 8:35 am #

Ah, but Boggs, you just don’t understand the administration’s definition of “freedom.” The troops were indeed sent to Iraq to secure “freedom"--the “freedom” of the U.S. ruling class to rule the world and control its oil.

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By boggs, October 18, 2007 at 1:41 am #

Some still think that our military was sent into Iraq to guard and save american freedom. That couldn’t be furthur from the truth.
I’m sorry that the military didn’t have an honorable mission. Next time they are conned perhaps they won’t rush to sign up.
I would like to see every flag pin wearer have to don an 80# back-pack and wear full uniform and stay outdoors away from air conditioning and eat MRI’s for the duration of the war.
Parents, don’t bring your children up to be warriors for the next profiteering president.

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By Grousefeather, October 17, 2007 at 5:44 am #
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Bush and Cheney wearing flag lapel pins should have the caption:

ALL SHOW AND NO GO!

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By cann4ing, October 16, 2007 at 8:55 pm #

Thanks Leefeller, but the truly enlightened one was Bill Moyers.  The man is a certified genius and a voice that is badly needed in these Orwellian times.

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By Leefeller, October 16, 2007 at 7:06 pm #

Ernest Canning

This reminds me of your enlightened post and the quote from Henry Wallace past vice president, in regards to his comment on superpatriots, good work.

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By cann4ing, October 16, 2007 at 5:14 pm #

“I wore my flag tonight, first time.  Until now I haven’t thought it necessary to display a little metallic icon of patriotism for everyone to see.  It was enough to vote, pay my taxes, perform my civic duties, speak my mind and do my best to raise our kids to be good Americans.  Sometimes I would offer a small prayer of gratitude that I had been born in a country whose institutions sustain me, whose armed forces protected me and whose ideals inspired me.  I offered my heart’s affection in return.  It no more occurred to me to flaunt the flag on my chest than it did to pin my mother’s picture on my lapel to prove her son’s love....The flag’s been hijacked and turned into a logo, the trademark...of a monopoly of patriotism.  On most Sunday morning talk shows, official chests appear adorned with the flag as if it’s the Good Housekeeping seal of approval.  During the State of the Union, did you notice Bush and Cheney wearing the flag?  How come?  No administration’s patriotism is ever in doubt, only its policies.  And the flag bestows no immunity from error.  When I see flags sprouting on official lapels, I think of the time in China when I saw Mao’s Little Red Book of orthodoxy on every official’s desk, omnipresent and unread.

“But more galling than anything are all those moralistic ideologues in Washington sporting the flag on their lapels while...attacking dissenters as un-American.  They are people whose ardor for war grows disproportionately to their distance from the fighting.  They’re in the same league as those swarms of corporate lobbyists wearing flags and prowling Capitol Hill for tax breaks, even as they call for spending more on war.

“So I put this on as a modest riposte to the men with flags in their lapels who shoot missles from the safety of Washington think tanks....I put it on to remind myself that not every patriot thinks we should do to the people of Baghdad what bin Laden did to us.  The flag belongs to the country, not to the government, and it reminds me that it’s not un-American to think that war, except in self defense, is a failure of imagination, political nerve and diplomacy.  Come to think of it, standing up to your goverment can mean standing up for your country.”

Bill Moyers--2005. http://www.democracynow.org/pl?sid=05/05/16/1329245

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By thomas billis, October 16, 2007 at 10:49 am #
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Everytime I see those Flag Lapel Pins I am reminded of the quote"patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel”.It is always those guys with pins asking your kid to go and die while their kids works in their campaign.

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By mary, October 16, 2007 at 5:07 am #

Loved the show, wish Krugman was a little more aggressive.  I quit watching Tucker long before he lost the bowtie. I can’t stand his voice let alone the foolishness that spills out of his mouth.  If I were one of those guys who didn’t have the balls to do the military service, I would keep my mouth shut and hope no one noticed me.  These guys seem to be over-compensating for their clear lack of courage.  And real bullies, like I said keep your mouth shut and hope no one notices......

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By little gray foxes, October 15, 2007 at 6:30 pm #
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KEEP ON TRUCKIN’ BILL!  YOU FORGOT TO ADD THE PLASTIC YELLOW RIBBONS {MADE IN CHINA WITH LEAD PAINT} ON THE NEO CONS BEAMERS AND HUMMERS. WHAT IS THE TOTAL MILITARY SERVICE TIME UNDER “DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY” FOR THE EVASIVE: TURD BLOSSOM, BEDTIME FOR GONZO, DARTH VADER, AND THE TEXAS MAFIA WITH THE AIPAC LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON DC?
“Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism”?  George Washington

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By ocjim, October 15, 2007 at 2:20 pm #

His message at the end of his show is almost always worthwhile but many times his guests and such discussions are a waste of time when he has neocon guests like Tucker Calrson.

Like anyone else, Bill Maher has views I’m not in agreement with: his continuing diatribe against all religions, a cock-sure attitude about Israel which discards other views, etc. But for the sake of equal time for neocons, he puts a neocon windbag like Tucker Carlson on his show who monopolizes otherwise intelligent conversation. A case in point is Paul Krugman’s comments who is not as loud and clamorous as Tucker, but had important comments about the vetoed health care bill for children. It would be alright if Tucker had something important to say, but it’s just a rehash of think-tank propaganda.

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By loveinatub, October 15, 2007 at 12:52 pm #

Right on, Bill Maher!!!

U.S. flag pins made in china and leaking led, only 99 cents!

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By PatrickHenry, October 15, 2007 at 12:51 pm #

I use to watch real time frequently, however, with the recent comments made by Maher regarding 9/11, unrelenting support for Israel and his use of the media contrived buzzword “islamofacist” Bill has revealed that he is another media controlled shill.

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By John, October 15, 2007 at 9:15 am #
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I think the better indicator of who is likely to be an A-hole would be those who thinks they need to wear a suit coat in order to fit in.

The VFW and other veteran organizations routinely send out free stuff like American Flag lapel buttons in hopes of getting a few donation dollars to help out the poor souls whom have volunteered unknowingly to defend what those who wear suits actually stand for.
Ya know … things like living forever (with the virgins or not) and making it big on the backs of some poor 3rd world child working his/her little fingers to the bone trying to feed the family.

All the while we can plant and harvest 20 rows at once.
Seems to me that suits are the gd problem big time.

Your HBO show is OK but you would look and feel better in a T-shirt and it would be great if you put your flag button on. You could even put your Mary Jane button right along side of it but then you might start to look like a general or something. Its up to you I guess.

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By Verne Arnold, October 15, 2007 at 5:18 am #

Bill, you are the MAN!!!!!

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By SALS, October 15, 2007 at 12:32 am #
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Go America, Go! We love you, America. Alfred Nobel Peace Prize should go to the american soldiers - The true peacemakers of the Western World and the known Universe. Swedish - American Love Society Now offering Swedish/American flagpins $4.99. That’s a bargain.

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