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Dobson Says No No No to Giuliani

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Posted on Oct 9, 2007
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In case you think conservative Christians are just bluffing with their threats to split from the Republicans, take a gander at this clip of Sean Hannity begging James Dobson to support Rudy Giuliani. Dobson refuses, standing on principle and the promise of a more frenzied and loyal base under a Clinton presidency: “If Rudy Giuliani wins, I’m telling you the pro-life movement is gone.”

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By Shanan, October 15, 2007 at 7:38 pm Link to this comment
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Open letter

Connecting the dots. Are these the kind of people we will have in government? with you?

Dear Mr. Giuliani,

Running for office? Please, read the following, you will be asked about it.
Your strong support for the judge mentioned herein, and in return, her and her family’s (monetary and otherwise) support of you raise serious safety, security, judicial and ethical questions. When you don’t do anything about this “judge”, in order to protect all people including children, what kind of safety, security, law and justice are we all pursuing?
Friends, concerned citizens including myself, will generate this letter throughout our great country.

Judge Eyed in Court-Transcript Probe
By Brad Hamilton, New York Post, May 7, 2006
The state court watchdog is investigating charges that Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Marilyn Diamond changed official transcripts, allegedly to help cover up favorable rulings she made for pals, The Post has learned. The Commission on Judicial Conduct interviewed court reporter Maurice Schwartzberg two weeks ago - and he admitted making “substantial revisions” to transcripts at the judge’s request in one case.
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Judge’s $$ Offer in ‘Ripoff’
By Brad Hamilton, New York Post, October 31, 2004
Embattled Manhattan Supreme Court judge Marylin Diamond has made a multimillion-dollar settlement offer to an Israeli research center that claims she and her ex-law partner ripped off millions it stood to inherit, sources close to the deal said. Diamond made the offer last week even as she and ex-partner Janet Neschis were battling to get the center’s 3-year-old lawsuit tossed out of Manhattan federal court. The renowned Weizmann Institute of Science claims in court papers that it was due to inherit about $8 million from wealthy art collector Natasha Gelman upon her death in 1998. But the institute claims it lost out after Diamond and Neschis got their hands on the elderly woman’s vast fortune.
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Greg B. Smith and Bob Port, New York Daily News, February 10, 2004

Justice Marylin Diamond appointed her former law partner and close friend to handle a sick man’s legal affairs. That same friend oversaw a trust that later awarded Diamond $1.1 million. She hired an engineer who was a witness in a case she heard to work on her apartment building, not disclosing her actions until after she had ruled in favor of the party that had called the engineer. And 19 times since 2000, she has heard civil cases while she or her husband owned stock in one party - without disclosing her financial ties to the opposing side. Diamond refused repeated requests from the Daily News for an interview and did not respond to written questions.
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F.B.I. Investigates Judge’s Decisions for Defendant, Officials Say
By William K. Rashbaum, New York Times, March 29, 2003
The F.B.I. is investigating accusations that an acting State Supreme Court justice, in several civil cases in Manhattan, favored a defendant represented by the law firm where the judge’s husband works, law enforcement officials said yesterday…The investigation has focused on the role of the judge, Marylin G. Diamond.
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Jewess Judge Diamond Writes Anti-Semitic Threats To Herself the Judge’s Mysterious Letters
By Michele Mcphee, New York Daily News, Daily News Police Bureau Chief, Saturday, September 14th, 2002.

A criminal profiler who analyzed threatening letters sent to a Manhattan judge has concluded that the judge wrote them herself, the Daily News has learned. Since Acting Supreme Court Justice Marylin Diamond reported the first of the bizarre threats three years ago, she has been guarded virtually around-the-clock by NYPD detectives or Supreme Court officers, according to law enforcement sources.

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By rage, October 10, 2007 at 3:34 pm Link to this comment
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Dobson can chill with his sanctimonious pursuit of a godly man to lead this Christian nation. Jesus was never politically down with any human state like that. Heaven is not a conservative right wing family values red state. GOD is not spelled G-O-P. And, America is not a Christian Nation. All the candidates are American humans, flawed in every sinful way. These politicians are not campaigning for beatification into American sainthood. Each candidate ambitiously aspires to attain the dominating devotion and allegiance of the world only realized when one becomes the charismatic indestructable little horn on the diademed head of the great and terrible beast, straddled by the deceitful and gorgeous Laodicean whore, after whom the entire population of a mesmerized planet, obligitorily branded and stricken with gripping awe, powerlessly wanders. Since every human is born with a thorn in his flesh, each politician is required to have a decaying boneyard of writhing, smelling brimstone and treacle in a closet somewhere. The wretched practice has been canonized by the church of politics as a qualification for candidacy. For it is written, “Blessed art thou when YouTube humiliatest thee, and satan’s media minions sayeth all manner of evil against thee. For entertaining shall be thy run for office, and long shall thy dwell in the light of lime!”

Dobson is supposed to be an Ambassador of the Kingdom ruled by the world’s soon returning Eternal Immortal Nemesis, not out pimping his misguided followers for the remuneration of a beast ride. At a time when America is afraid enough to run with scissors and the devil, we really don’t need Dobson’s manipulative divisive duress behind the election booth curtain, or his hypocritical obfiscation of our precious, albeit diminishing political choices. I have to wonder if Dobson would be this vocal a Rudy detractor, were Rudy to feign just enough contrition and repentence to broadcast his convincing renunciation of serial adultry and cross-dressing, publicly atoning for his pathetic past with promises that, once elected, Dobson could enjoy the Lincoln Bedroom and inclusion in weekly Oval Office conference calls. Enviable and coveted inclusion in the President’s exclusive base, after all, was the irresistable carrot Dumya dangled to lure in the religious right in 2000 and 2004.

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By NABNYC, October 10, 2007 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment

They tried to make me vote for Rudy, but i said ‘no, no, no’

Yes I like black(water) but when I come back you’ll know know know

I ain’t got the time and if my neocon friends think I’m fine

They tried to make me vote for Rudy but i won’t no no no

With apologies to Amy Winehouse.

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By Dr Richard Blackmoor, October 10, 2007 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment
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I would think that the conservative entertainers would like a Democratic controlled government.
  Rush the radical entertainer was propelled to fame ,fortune and Oxycontin BECAUSE of the Clinton Presidency.

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By SamBrown, October 10, 2007 at 9:17 am Link to this comment
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Boy it sure is interesting to see how civil and respectful the discourse is, despite the disagreement, when Hannity knows how popular the guest is with the Foxnews audience.
Watching that exchange of opinions one would almost believe that the host was “fair and balanced”.

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By d.alon, October 10, 2007 at 8:05 am Link to this comment
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The authoritarian personality knows no ethnic or territorial boundary.  When attempting to force their world views and beliefs down the throats of others, they always dress it up as a edict from God.  These people are always the cruelest, most punative and intellectually shallow people on the planet, but inevitably they gain power on a wave of self-righeousness and end-justifies-means violence - because they receive their authority from some twisted, perverse interpretation of scripture.  What results is oppression of knowledge, arts, sciences, personal freedoms, and individual choice. We may all have dodged a mandatory conversion to the “Church of the Because I Said So” this time around, but they have certainly had reason to feel empowered with the con-artist in the White House - who played them like a fiddle.  But, their power, number and influence will continue to grow as our economy and continues to decline.

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By dp, October 10, 2007 at 7:54 am Link to this comment
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If only these so-called “movements”, the pro-life, the pro-family, the conservative christian, could pass as quickly as the movements they most bring to mind…the bowel movement.

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By EMP, October 10, 2007 at 6:50 am Link to this comment
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“Split from the Republicans”?  Where would they go?  I want to split from the Dems after observing their spineless falling over to the President with the worst popularity rating ever - but where do I go.  They will work it from the inside or the outside, but they will never give up the fight.  They feel they are on a mission from God.

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By Rudi P., October 10, 2007 at 3:54 am Link to this comment

Dobson is deeply mistaken in his believes and in his ideas how society should function. But you have to give him this: his analysis about the impact of a Hillary vs. Giuliani victory - as seen in the last few seconds of this video - is spot on. Dobson is much brighter as Hannity.

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By jfior, October 10, 2007 at 1:04 am Link to this comment

RAE, once again, I too agree with your thoughts…I find your posts in many of the same articles that I feel compelled to speak about, for whatever it is worth…

a few comments..

What I find the most frightening in all of this is that Dobson has the US flag behind him while he speaks about controlling what others think and do…this is antithesis to the founding principals of this country.  I can not state more clearly and eloquently than James Madison, an outspoken and influential member of the Convention during the Summer of 1787, in a letter entitled Vices, he first observes that….

“All civilized societies are divided into different interests and factions, as they happen to be creditors or debtors—rich or poor—husbandmen, merchants or manufacturers—members of different religious sects—followers of different political leaders—inhabitants of different districts—owners of different kinds of property”....

then goes on to say “The great desideratum [something considered necessary or highly desirable, I had to look it up] in Government is such a modification of the sovereignty as will render it sufficiently neutral between the different interests and factions, to controul one part of the society from invading the rights of another, and at the same time sufficiently controuled itself, from setting up an interest adverse to that of the whole Society.”

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/mjmtext:@FIELD(DOCID+@lit(jm020120))

Dobson and the “Conservatives” do not believe this.  It goes against everything they stand for.

What is missing from Dobson and the others who vehemently oppose abortion is this…what to do with the mothers who commit abortions?  I never hear about it being discussed.  If the mother is a party to killing a person, as Dobson would no doubt claim, then the logical conclusion is that the mother should be charged with murder or conspiracy to commit murder, and, should states have the penalty open to them, be subject to the death penalty.  If Dobson were serious about this position, he would make that statement. 

Silence….

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By Outraged, October 9, 2007 at 11:10 pm Link to this comment

The only power the religious right have is by use of threats and intimidation.  And they use it, so saintly isn’t it?  While they proclaim to stand on principle, in reality their premise is the money they extort from their followers to gain power.  With it they use threats and intimidation to attempt to gain advantage.  Boy, this story is as old the the bible itself.  Not to worry, when the religious right fades into oblivion, there will still be a use for their carcasses as cherry pickers.

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By waxman, October 9, 2007 at 11:00 pm Link to this comment

105870 RAE   VERY GOOD POST AND I AGREE COMPLETELY…LOOKING AT THE PICTURE,THE THING NEXT TO DOBSON IS PROOF THAT IN SOME CASES ABORTION SHOULD BE MANDATORY..WHAT A LOSER HANNITY IS AND A CRONIC LIAR….

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By RAE, October 9, 2007 at 5:04 pm Link to this comment

You know, folks, the ONLY reason Dobson & friends have any influence is YOU give him that power.

I don’t. I don’t give a rat’s ass what this narrow-minded blowhard charlatan, or others of his ilk (Robertson for one) “believe” about this “very, very difficult issue.”

Anyone with a brain understands that each of us is BORN WITH THE INALIENABLE RIGHT TO DETERMINE OUR OWN PATH, TO MAKE OUR OWN CHOICES, and TO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES.

Neither I nor anyone else has the right to make these determinations for me, NOR DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO INTERFERE WITH ANYONE ELSE’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE HIS/HER PATH THROUGH LIFE.

Choose abortion -> live with the consequences generated by your own conscience.

Choose pro-life -> ditto… AND BE PREPARED TO PAY ALL COSTS THAT RESULT FROM YOUR CHOICE. There is no bloody way that I or anyone else should be required to finance your choice.

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