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Posted on Aug 29, 2007

Although it feels a bit like an ‘80s thriller or an episode of “Hard Copy” gone awry, this campaign video from Mike Gravel does a handy job of countering the president’s ill-advised comparison of the wars in Iraq and Vietnam.

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By faith, September 12, 2007 at 4:54 pm Link to this comment

Wow !  What an ad.  On point, truthful.  I was going to campaign for Edwards, but I am going to rethink my view of Gravel.  We need a candidate that is not afraid of the truth.  That is not afraid to say and do what is right instead of what his “party” wants him to say.

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By republicanSScareme, September 6, 2007 at 11:35 pm Link to this comment
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I’m one of those Democrats who has little if any trust of the Establishment Democrat candidates.  The question is, will people vote for relative unknowns Kucinich or Gravel?

I will vote for any Democrat before I vote Republican, but I sure hope Kucinich or Gravel can get somewhere on the ticket.  That’s a real longshot.

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By boggs, September 5, 2007 at 1:51 pm Link to this comment

Charles Brough,
have you heard of the dumbing down of America?
It started under Nixon or Reagan and has continued under every (R) leader or Congress. The intentional destruction of our Public Schools curriculum.
More recess and free time and lots less Civics classes.

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By charles brough, September 4, 2007 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment
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We are fighting in Iraq because the public was still in a war mood after 9/11.  We were going to “eridicate evil” and the public went along. Why blame politicians when the public itself can so easily be manipulated?  What we need is to upgrade people’s world-view and way of thinking so that it is not so confused and susceptable. shows how . . .

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By boggs, September 3, 2007 at 11:37 am Link to this comment

I definately think we should all vote for a “one marriage” man or woman who has good republican family values!!!
You know what? That would leave out all the Republican’s except for the Mormon wouldn’t it?
I absolutely don’t want the Mormon Church leading our country.
Oh dear, what to do?

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By geo, September 2, 2007 at 11:25 pm Link to this comment
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I hope it was clear in my previous post that by “you-know-who” I meant Giuliani.  A mensch I know says it’s going to be Rudy v. Hillary and in that fight you gotta pull for the spunky broad over the criminal fraud…I mean, Hillary over Rudy.  She’s nuanced and he’s just an overt shill for the moneyed power elite.  She’s got a prayer of doing the right thing occassionally and he doesn’t.

Unless of course Ralph Nader gets into it, in which case everyone should vote for him.  Or how about Kucinich/Nader?  or Nader/Gravel?

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By geo, September 2, 2007 at 7:00 pm Link to this comment
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If only he had “stamina” like Hillary.  Why tell the truth about what a pit we’ve dug ourselves into (again) when he could be an ebulliently lying whore like you-know-who.  Hey, it’s Mourning in America: wake up and smell the tears…of joy, because it’s just so exhillariating to be out there on the trail…getting into people’s lives and sucking at the giant teat of Rupert.

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By Outraged, September 1, 2007 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

My apologies to Sen. KUCINICH! for spelling his name wrong AGAIN!  It’s just that I used to have a friend whose last name had that extra “h” in it, and for some reason my brain keeps going there.  I am sorry.

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By Outraged, August 31, 2007 at 11:04 pm Link to this comment

If we believe the rhetoric that they want us to believe then we will vote for Hillary or Obama.  However, we don’t HAVE to go there.  Don’t let them make up your minds.  REMEMBER, word of mouth spread exponentially.  I tell five people, they tell five people, then they tell five people…...............

Kuchinich is already winning online polls.  So, who’s to say that what the MSM is spewing is even true.  They want everyone to THINK it’s true.  I for one say they’re lying.

Think about it, corporate America is pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel with Rep. candidates such as, Romney and Guliani.  C’mon, this isn’t what they would CHOSE to do.  They are backed into a corner and now they’re trying to “win over” our vote with Clinton and Obama.

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By JimBob, August 31, 2007 at 10:52 pm Link to this comment

David Frum, on “Left, Right and Center” today, said that “...America has committed its prestige to the survival of an effective Iraqi state.”

This was a very revealing statement. Our prestige is what’s on the line, not Iraqi well-being, not some grand principle of democracy. We’re the boss at a company Christmas party and we got drunk and fell down the stairs; now we’re going to do whatever we can to make it seem like we tripped or—better yet—were pushed. Because our authority in the world depends on never looking clumsy or stupid. Terrible things will happen in the world if our feet of clay are exposed to those we seek to intimidate. The cubicle-monkeys will chuckle behind our back. This, folks, is what it’s about as far as those who want more troops to die are concerned. And this isn’t grounds for impeachment?  Or riots in the streets?

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By boggs, August 31, 2007 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment

Until the people decide to take back their country, the corporate media will continue to select our nominees for us and it will be the ones with the most money to pay for TV spots that will be honored with the nominations.
In the meantime the corporate powers will let us think we are “the deciders”, but it’s just a sham, our efforts mean nothing as long as we continue to have
corruption at the polls.
I will be voting for Kucinich.

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By purplewolf, August 31, 2007 at 10:30 am Link to this comment

Sequoiabis, Yes the working poor do vote, to say they don’t is a lie. We realize that many time our vote are hijacked and in the process of technology today, end up on the opposing teams side, as in the 2004 presidential election where votes for Kerry ended up in Bush’s basket.I still get out and vote   hoping one day all the corrupt tricks and thievery of the votes will end and the real winner prevails.

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By SEQUOIABIS, August 31, 2007 at 8:38 am Link to this comment

Get real my friends Gravel makes a lot of sense and Kucinich is definitely my choice for Prez, but this country is just too stupid to elect some one who represents the majority of Americans.

We are living in an oligarchy society where the rich minority still rule. The idiots who follow Brittany Spears and Lindsy Lohan will never see a voting booth. And the real majority of this country the working poor will also never cast a vote.

I am afraid we are in for another round of Twiddle Dee or Twiddle Dumb. Hillary vs Rudy, two war mongering half-wits enabled by their corporate masters.

Only a miracle could bring Kucinich to the forefront and since I do not believe in miracles I guess I will remain one angry frustrated American.

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By Bailey, August 31, 2007 at 8:24 am Link to this comment
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Sen. Mike Gravel is a hero and a patriot. THAT is why he doesn’t stand a chance.

It’s a travesty.

I say this as a war vet and as a very pissed off and disaffected lifelong Republican.

At least I can vote in the primaries in ‘08 and walk away with a clean conscience. RON PAUL will get my vote; and that might just be it for me.

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By Dale Headley, August 30, 2007 at 6:00 pm Link to this comment
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Candidates like Gravel and Dennis Kucinich can’t get elected because the corporate kleptocracy won’t permit it.  Whoever is eventually elected in ‘08 will be just another in a string of obsequious puppets of the military industrial complex.  American democracy is a myth.

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By Don, August 30, 2007 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment
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Gravel’s tax system stinks. A flat rate with some tinkering? No way!

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By Nancy Hatfield, August 30, 2007 at 1:23 pm Link to this comment
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Thank you Mike Gravel for standing up and exposing our government for what it is—democrats and republicans alike—The Corporation!!  A Kucinich/Gravel or Gravel/Kucinich is the only way to go if people truly want any kind of real change, real sanity, honest and open and fair foreign policy,  fair social policy for the people of this nation and the world.  Wake up America—pay attention!

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By C Quil, August 30, 2007 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment

He’ll never get elected if people keep writing him off. He’s done everything that Americans pride themselves on.

Forget about Hillary and Obama. This guy is great.

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By Jaded Prole, August 30, 2007 at 12:14 pm Link to this comment
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I’d vote for him but I think a Kucinich Gravel ticket would be perfect.

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By rowdy, August 30, 2007 at 10:05 am Link to this comment

nominate gravel,make him king of the world.

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By don knutsen, August 30, 2007 at 9:43 am Link to this comment
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A Gravel / Kucinich ticket is exactly what we need in 2008. Its true that our media / political hack machinery will do all they can to prevent that from happening. But, how about we , the people, ignore their pan rattling and vote for the people who will turn our country in a new direction. What a crazy concept,the people actually picking the president instead of some corporations. That would look suspiciously like a democracy.

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By Mudwollow, August 30, 2007 at 9:31 am Link to this comment

What do you call the loan senator who bravely stands up against the draft and the Vietnam War? What label do you place on a man who risks his own liberties by releasing the Pentagon papers and single-handedly exposes your government and your military for the frauds that they are? How would you describe a man who in his 70s, with no money of his own, takes taxicabs to any venue that will allow him to continue exposing a rotten and corrupt un-American oligarchy?

A nutcase. A crackpot. An old fuddy-duddy. Senile. Scary. Over the Hill. Disoriented.

Black is white and white is black.

Now, back to Hillary and Obama and Giuliani and all the other “real” candidates. Real nauseating that is.

Mike Gravel is one of the few public figures to look up to in the 21st century. Mike has as much chance of becoming president as you or I do. But Mike Gravel has already done untold good by standing up once again and disseminating information and ideas that would otherwise have been thoroughly silenced. Some are hearing what Mike Gravel has to say. Some are hearing his proposals for improving America. For that we all owe Mike Gravel a world of thanks.

Hillary and Obama and Bush and Cheney, and the entire US Congress and Senate don’t amount to a temple on Mike Gravel’s butt.

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By Leefeller, August 30, 2007 at 8:56 am Link to this comment

Our war evader president with his henchmen has managed to kill over 3000 of our young men and women, seems the number of wounded is harder to find.

Gravel has more compassion as one man, then everyone in the White House put together.  This is not being fair to Gravel.

If Gravel became president, changes would be extreme and actually good.  The powers that be will never let that happen.

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By Evan W., August 30, 2007 at 1:11 am Link to this comment

I love Bush’s blatant “flip flop” here. He maintained that Iraq was not like Vietnam at all for about 5 years now until just a few days ago. Hmm.

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By Outraged, August 29, 2007 at 11:09 pm Link to this comment

Thank you Mike Gravel….........!

I think its Gravel/Kucinich or Kucinich/Gravel.  I mean no disrespect to either one and believe that these are truth tellers…...each of their own accord.

BTW, Boggs..don’t let anyone make up your own mind…NEVER SAY NEVER.

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By boggs, August 29, 2007 at 8:27 pm Link to this comment

I love Gravel and wish he had a chance in hell, but we all know that our nominees are pre-picked and shoved at us through manipulated polls, and the media will win by collecting all the money for ads.

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By kevin99999, August 29, 2007 at 7:06 pm Link to this comment
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It appeares that the leaders of the U.S. have no respect for human lives.

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