Truth?
Who knows truth?
I am seeking reason and it’s not in the bible.

Since the beginning of time, the strong leader types knew they needed a special source of power to keep all the flocks in line and afraid to stray. Along came the Bible, the book that will be used to hold the sheeple behind the invisble line.
The book of power, to let women know they are not equals and let the blacks know they are born slaves.
What bullcrap.

RELIGION IS KILLING US!

Re: #96838 by Tom Patterson on 8/25 at 9:19 am

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It is a source of shame that so many Christians--from Constantine to the present--have understood the church to be a prop for good government, stable society, and available to be used by the government for dishonorable ends by a warped reading of Romans 13.  Frankly, we deserve the criticism this article levies.
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Constantine was no more a christian than G.W.Bush!

When was christianity ever anything more than political subterfuge for the ignorant and the stupid?  LMAO!  Who more than christians deserve to be treated like idiots?  OK, maybe muslims!  Maybe!

RAE,
RAH, RAH.
‘nough said.

Oh why not?

Who could possibly “baffle ‘em with bullshit” better than a member of “the clergy?”

#96838 Tom:
Still a little unsure of the veracity at the report,though I am completely certain that many of my fellow Christians would see no problem being used by the goverment for the purpose of pacifyig a citizenry resistant to the imposition of martial law.

Are you for real. According to what I have read, Jesus did not get involved in politics. And if you are a little unsure of this report do some research on the web. Look up Martial Law, there are reports where this goverment plans to use clergy to convince the sheeple the goverment is right no matter what and do as it says. You will be lead like sheep to the slaughter. Check out where this goverment plans to take resisters and what they have planned for the people of this country.Look for FEMA Concentration Camps,Martial Law, look at some of the laws Bush has signed just since July 17,2007.Your rights are gone you just don’t know it as they don’t tell us.It’s all done very underhanded. The clergy people will be used as pawns in this madness,already the groundwork is in place. It is a matter of when. By the sounds of your statement you have no problem having everything taken by this goverment and herding you off. Look back to Hilter’s Germany. George Bushs grandfather helped $$ that,check out G.W.Bush on the web searches, and G.W. himself on numerous occassions has stated “America would be a heck of a lot easier to control if it were a dictatorship and he was the dictator of course”.That information is also on the web and where it was said and dates from 1996-2004 (latest info). And when they declare Martial Law,he gets what he wants. And the brainwashed followers who do as they are told no questions asked are in for a rude awakening. You may go quietly into that, but I won’t.

Boggs, I am not sure if these idiots listen to themselves.I know they love to hear themselves talk, but as to hearing the messages they spout out,I don’t think they know what they have said. It’s all lies anyway. They are like a preprogramed robot. And for the blending of political war with religion,I think they do that to justify what they are doing like the song-One Tin Soldier by Coven- “do it in the name of heaven you’ll be justified in the end”. I do not believe that, but the PTB do.That is why it is so easy to destroy others who are different than “we are” according to these delusioned creatures. We could pray for them. Not.Won’t help they are to far gone.

I cannot understand how people can be totally controled like they are in the CNN report. Asking the head of the church who to vote for. Are they so uncapable of making a decision on their own and need someone to do all their thinking for them. There is a movement going around now to not allow those with mental handicaps to vote. There used to be laws stated on the voters cards that said “imbeciles"(state wording) were not allowed to vote as they were incapable of making a decision.This group surely seems to fit that criteria as they need someone to think for them. Let’s hope they don’t breed as their progeny will not be able to think for themselves either.Scary, really scary. I have a bumper sticker that says “the family that prays together is braineashing the children.”

Purplewolf, I have watched all three segments of “Christian Warriors”.
Excellent Documentary.
I don’t think it is in the job description of our President or Senate, to be proselytizing to the masses, and especially the military, where the irony is so great that we use phrases like “Shock and Awe”, “Christian soldiers” and “Smart Bombs”. My god, don’t these people listen to themselves?

Tom, you are either asleep at the wheel or you are a bit duped by the WORD.....

# 96871 Tom:
Have you no sense of humor? Don’t you know satire when you see it? Chill out. If you can’t make fun of something,and,after watching how some of these “true believers” behave in their wacked out view of how “things should be for all” and then carry out those misguided actions in the name of their God. You become like them and so rigid that you snap, just like they do.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities-Voltaire

This includes all religions.

#96852 boggs:
They will be armed with AK-47’s in the shape of a cross while they carry their bibles and quote scripture all the while blasting us away in the name of what ever God they profess to believe in.

Don’t forget all the heathens, pagan,Wiccans,Ba’Hai Native American Indians and others who do not believe as these sheeple do.

I vote for reason and anyone running for “elected?” office who quotes the bible(a total book of heresay) as true fact,or spouts off how religious they are,or pushing for the regression of education,i.e. scienctific fact over creationism,forcing school prayer(and who’s religion would they allow),forcing the role of women to that of total submission-slave to the male(owner) and baby factory,is not qualified or even mentally fit to run for public office, let alone be elected any position of power. Look at the abuse this administration has done so far. To bring in fanatical religious leaders would be a tragedy.

If you get a chance watch the following, it has some good exaples of how brainwashing creates wackos, there’s the churchs “creationism “for you.
Saturday August 25,2007
On CNN tonite Gods Warriors starts at 9pm there are 3-2hour segments 9-11pm Gods Jewish Warriors, 11pm-1am Gods Muslim Warriors, 1am-3am, Gods Christin Warriors, 3am-5am-repeat Jewish Warriors
Sunday August 26,2007
CNN :Gods Warriors: Jewish 9pm-11pm, Christian 11p-1a (possible wrong time as this is part 3), Muslim 1a,-3am

Will these ministers come equipped with bibles or AK47’s????
Do not make the mistake of under-rating this news as being mere conspiracy. Almost every attack on our rights has been poo-pooed until the final pen signing by the SOT in the whitehouse.

It is time for all AGNOSTICS and ATHEISTS to emerge from their closets and demand that we don’t allow our government to shove religion at us through our politicians. We must insist on the separation of church and state!

If we have the choice of a leader who leads with faith or reason, which would you choose? I choose reason.

Wow, so many “hidden” agendaists. Whoa, pull back on the reins there bessie!  Quy Tran....where are you… we need you........I mean really, didn’t you know I cared.............!  Quy..Tran.....Quy Tran.......Quy........T..r..a..n........................... ....................

KILL A KKKRISTIAN TODAY. or a jew or a moslem. maybe not the buddhists. just go for the religious zealots,open season on the majority of our so called “elected officials”. even better:thermonuclear holocaust over the entire planet. it would be glorious.

I think a vast majority of americans are in a state of denial as to the extent this administration has and continues to dismantle what was our democracy. They are above the law and in fact have given themselves the right to re-writethe law. The constitution, another “quaint” documentmuch like the geneva conventions or Habeaus Corpus is only so much paper to ignore. They have packed the supreme court and know that they will not be held accountable. They seem , if anything to be ratcheting up their corporatization of the nation. Our people are paying for private armies who do not have to account for their actions, something all empires on the way out have done thruout history. We are sliding down this slope faster with each month and out pitiful, vapid press still dosen’t even mention it on the major networks because they have no interest in informing the public. The relatively few conglomerates in charge of all that we see and hear ( thanks partially to the telecommunications Act passed under the Clinton admin. ) are only interested in their bottom line. Until we break up these media monopolies and return the 4th estate to the people our mad dash towards facism will only continue to escalate. We are running out of time, and it dosen’t provide much comfort seeing how are elected officials are dealing with these criminals so far.

Roman 13 being misused and contorted to opiate the true believers. As in advertising, repetition will convince these uneducated to be herded as sheep and accept this government as gospel. But worse of all the dimmos will keep Executive order 51 and this part of the Patriot Act, No party or elected gives up power.

another flawed idea.

what makes them think an angry citizenry is going to listen to some fool of a preacher?

I have one thing to say about this (without saying that the so-called Xtians! are selling out (or have done so already).

Masada!

What ever happened to seperation of church and state. It is well known that the “religious sheeple” are the easiest to control.That’s why the repukelicans like to include the churches. That way people do not question what these insincere political mouthpieces are doing. These sheeple remark that they “support the Bush Bunch because they are more religious based”. Well the Weed claims that God told him to go to Iraq to spread freedom all around the world, all the while stealing our freedoms in the extremely underhanded way.Just who in the hell do they really worship? If this “Christian God” all these people follow is so honorable then why does this feel so wrong? And what do they plan to do to the people who do not believe as the Bushies and the churches, send us to the FEMA camps for execution or will they revive the modern age version of the Salem Witchcraft Trials? Since torture is on the books and the medieval churches were very adept at this, we can only imagine what they will come up with.Maybe Fox can create a new reality television series about “what we do to non-believers and others we cannot brainwash”.And it’s not a good thing.