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Posted on Jul 30, 2007
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Although Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was characteristically dodgy during last week’s questioning by the Senate Judiciary Committee about just who had dispatched him in March 2004 to persuade an ailing John Ashcroft to approve an illegal wiretapping program, The New York Times leaves little mystery that it was Vice President Dick Cheney.  Here, Daily Kos posts a clip of Gonzales’ vague responses about the incident.


Follow this link to watch the clip at Daily Kos.

Click here to read the NYT editorial about Gonzales’ infamous bedside visit with Ashcroft.

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By stevebenjamins, August 1, 2007 at 12:39 am Link to this comment
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The toilet has been flushed on these bozos, they’re swirlin’ together, smirking with confidence that Cheney is too big to go down the hole, as proof Libby, Rummy et al are still floating around with them.

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By carlito paquito, July 31, 2007 at 3:36 pm Link to this comment
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give the kid a break, settle like men, fist to fist, ala martin scorsese, raging bull, ala robert dinero, joe pesci, new york movie with that brit, no killint please, free speech okay, cant see eye to eye, settle it like that claymation celebrity grudge match at rectors boxing gym grant it i’m slightly overweith, 119 vs 225 today, but heck it, i’ll still will give a charity donation via grudge match settled at NYC, Boxing Gym.  It’s fair. Come on I challenge you. U know who u are. No War. More SENsual, humorist stuff ala Steve Martinesque;)

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By carlito paquito, July 31, 2007 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment
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enough alreasy, dick wins, now bend over America or stand up and unite, disclaimer: free speech, stand up comedian, screen and directors guild of america umbrella, i just want want to act tough, meantime, top squal leader military man;) i submit, but heck, give me good leaders like john edwards, screw his hair, his pubic, sorry, fowl, that surround his gonads are as large as that clowns resume.  b.s. i’m just a tiny dancer from new york 5’5” ,47 yrs young, blalding, fat, but strong, and have this only device to wind my horn.  so what?!

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By osage, July 31, 2007 at 7:24 am Link to this comment
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I don’t buy the BS that it was Cheney…...IT WAS BUSH!  Does anyone believe that BUSH neither made the decision for Gonzales to press Ashcroft or that he knew that Gonzales was going to?  BUSH KNEW THAT GONZALES WAS GOING TO ASHCROFT’S HOSPITAL BED THE DAY AFTER HE WAS OPERATED ON!  At the very least, he condoned it, which is the same as ordering it to be done!  This is classic good cop bad cop tactics.  And hopefully no one needs to told whose playing the bad cop, but they are BOTH bad cops.

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By SuGee, July 31, 2007 at 6:24 am Link to this comment
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What do you expect for war criminals?

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By cyrena, July 31, 2007 at 2:55 am Link to this comment

#90994 •by THOMAS BILLIS on 7/31 at 12:12 am

THOMAS:

.....“Alberto Gonzales? I am not sure. When he was not sure what his name was I knew it would be a long hearing.”....

You are SO right. Not being sure of his name was a dead giveaway.

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By THOMAS BILLIS, July 31, 2007 at 1:12 am Link to this comment
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Alberto Gonzales?I am not sure.When he was not sure what his name was I knew it would be a long hearing.If they had used the names he is called around the White House maybe he would have been more responsive.Flunky,fire those US Prosecutors.Taco breath,rewritethe Geneva Convention.Asshole lips,head down to the hospital and If Ashcroft looks like he is out of it get him to sign the paper authorizing illegal wiretaps. Even If they do not use the apelations I have those names are more apropos than Attorney General.

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By cyrena, July 30, 2007 at 8:28 pm Link to this comment

Comment#90925 by Ga on 7/30 at 4:54 pm

Ga, great comments, particularly noting that gonzo claims that he’ll “go back” to get permission on answering these questions. No doubt, it would be to Cheney or Addington, (cheney’s replacement for Scooter Liebowitz) and they aren’t gonna give him that permission, nor is Feilding, who has taken over as White House counsel.

Meantime, on this, I’m just still not sure:

....“And here is, perhaps, just why Osama bin Laden is still alive:

I close with a reminder that just last week, al Jazeera aired an audio tape in which Osama bin Laden promised a new round of attacks on the United States. Bin Laden said the proof of his promise is, and I quote, “the explosions you have seen in the capitals of European nations.” He continued, quote, “The delay in similar operations happening in America has not been because of failure to break through your security measures. The operations are under preparation and you will see them in your homes the minute they are through with preparations.” Close quote.”...

I say I’m not sure (that Osama bin Laden is still alive) because we have only their word (and alleged video tapes to Al Jezzera)on which to determine this claim. And, even this alleged video, is relatively old. In reality, I haven’t seen it, (the video) and I don’t know anyone who has.

Now, I DO believe Zawahiri to still be alive, and I believe it to be to his strategic advantage, to make it appear that Osama is still alive, and it’s DEFINITELY to the Mob’s advantage, to at least keep him alive, in the minds of Americans, so that we will all continue to “be very afraid”. (of the wrong things and people)

Still, I find it next to impossible to believe that OBL is dashing through the mountain caves of Afghanistan, dragging a dialysis machine with him. And, he was suffering from renal failure as far back as September 10, 2001, when he checked into that American hospital in Qatar or Yemen, (I forget which one)for treatment. Nobody has actually SEEN or spoken to him since, and so we’ve been forced to rely on whatever the Mob and the western (mob controlled) media want to tell us. Tricky things can be done with technology.

Meantime, if we are to believe ANY of the video or audio “evidence” that we’ve supposedly received from OBL, it should be the part where he says that his al-Qaeda movement, (which is really his AND Zawahiri’s movement, since it was a merger of their two movements)will continue itself in a self-sustaining pattern, long after he’s gone, or whether he himself is around to “lead” it.

And, that’s what I personally believe has happened, whether he’s still alive or not. And, I’m thinking that he ISN’T, but as long as the world thinks he is, then his ideology will continue to attract that portion of the generation of disenfranchised Muslims.

There are obviously still plenty of them who find their ways to these training camps, even if OBL isn’t around himself any longer.

And so, it keeps the boogey-man alive, even if he isn’t.

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By Margaret Currey, July 30, 2007 at 6:54 pm Link to this comment
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Anyone with a brain could see that Bush was not presidental material, in fact Teresa Heintz Kerry said (while she was stumping for her husband) “If you want four more years of hell, elect Bush”.

Now the people can see that this man, Bush, Gonzales and Chaney must be Impeached, and the sooner it starts the better, even if the Impeachment does not go through it will sent a message, but I believe that they have commited Impeachable acts.

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By QuyTran, July 30, 2007 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment

Playing “Doggy” act will not be easy as Alberto Gonzales at AG post.

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By jbart, July 30, 2007 at 6:26 pm Link to this comment
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The absurdity of this “mental midget” still being in office is astounding! He’s such an idiot, if you watch his testimony, the criticism fits like an “Italian racing glove”. Yeah and he fits with his boss, the “ultimate” in mental midgetry”. But, at least he’s from Texas, which provides an excuse for his idiocy. The Shrub was born, raised, and educated(well, at least it tried) in CT. I live here, in the bastion of neo-conism. Nowhere in the U.S.A is more representative(in my humble opinion, that is) of the neo-con mentality, than here in CT. I think AG, the AG, to be an embarassment to our country, and to us, the electorate. I would, strongly advocate that, anybody who can not see through the transparent veil of stupidity and arrogance, should never have the opportunity to vote on National candidates. Harsh? Yes. But required to return our great country to its roots and ideals. We all need to “DO SOMETHING”. A good first step is to apply any pressure we can in removing his sorry ass from our government.

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By Ga, July 30, 2007 at 5:54 pm Link to this comment

In response to why he cannot answer, AG says it was because “I was in the Whitehouse ...” and that he would “go back and see if I can answer it.”

Now, why didn’t anyone ask AG just who it is he would ask in order to get permission to answer? The President? Cheney?

Clearly, this is about unprecedented powers granted to the Executive Branch of our government, a plan long in the making—just look into Cheney’s history on this matter.

Here is the AG’s own reasoning put forth in 2006 in his own words:

The Attorney General of the United States is the chief legal advisor for the Executive Branch. Accordingly, from the outset, the Justice Department thoroughly examined this program against al Qaeda, and concluded that the President is acting within his power in authorizing it. ...

The terrorist surveillance program is firmly grounded in the President’s constitutional authorities. ...

It has long been recognized that the President’s constitutional powers include the authority to conduct warrantless surveillance aimed at detecting and preventing armed attacks on the United States. ...

The President’s authority to take military action—including the use of communications intelligence targeted at the enemy—does not come merely from his inherent constitutional powers. It comes directly from Congress as well.

... Congress enacted a joint resolution to support and authorize a military response to the attacks on American soil. In this resolution, the Authorization for Use of Military Force, Congress did two important things. First, it expressly recognized the President’s “authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States.” Second, it supplemented that authority by authorizing the President to, quote, “use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks” in order to prevent further attacks on the United States.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/speeches/2006/ag_speech_0601241.html

When the Attorney General gets his “orders” from the Executive Branch it is essentially a coup that will eventually lead to fascism. It may take some time, like 10 years, but this is a road hard to stop once started down.

And here is, perhaps, just why Osama bin Laden is still alive:

I close with a reminder that just last week, al Jazeera aired an audio tape in which Osama bin Laden promised a new round of attacks on the United States. Bin Laden said the proof of his promise is, and I quote, “the explosions you have seen in the capitals of European nations.” He continued, quote, “The delay in similar operations happening in America has not been because of failure to break through your security measures. The operations are under preparation and you will see them in your homes the minute they are through with preparations.” Close quote.

...

This Administration has chosen to act now to prevent the next attack, rather than wait until it is too late. This Administration has chosen to utilize every necessary and lawful tool at its disposal. It is hard to imagine a President who wouldn’t elect to use these tools in defense of the American people – in fact, I think it would be irresponsible to do otherwise.

Osama and Al Qaeda are being used by the Administration to justify their power grabs. The CIA could have killed Osama in Afghanistan, but were prevented from doing so by the Administration.

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By vet240, July 30, 2007 at 5:15 pm Link to this comment

This person is a base criminal who believes the Congress of the United States has no power over him.
His arrogance is obvious.

He should be investigated for crimes against the United States along with the people he thinks are not under the laws of the land. This would include the president and the vice-president.

His behavior shows tht he along with the afore-mentioned believe thay can lie to Congress, knowing that Congress knows their lying, but Congress is powerless to investigate or try them for their crimes.

bu$h/chainey/rice/wolfowitz/gonzales are all traiters to this Country and to the Constitution.

If Congress allows this to continue without challenge, Americans will one day find that our Democracy no longer exists.

All American need to demand their representatives act on this now.

Impeach them all, investigate them all imprison them all.

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