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Posted on May 16, 2007

Robert Greenwald found himself under attack recently while testifying before the House Judiciary Committee. Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga. (right), objected to the documentarian’s claim that it is improper to pay a private contractor four times as much as a U.S. soldier doing the same job: “It’s actually somewhat of an insult, if I go down to Fort Stewart and tell ‘em they’re underpaid, because they’re really not motivated by pay as much as they are by patriotism.” If only Halliburton felt the same way.

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By Nitro, May 21, 2007 at 3:33 pm Link to this comment

nobozos (#71357) Well, we’re almost neighbors. I’m from New Mexico and our state has sent some real winners as well. I could be wrong because I can’t research all of them, but would someone please tell me of ONE IN WASHINGTON, that is worth even the paper their checks are written on?

Maybe that is the key… Refuse to pay any of the lieing bastards till ALL of our serious concerns are dealt with and handled. Do you receive a pay check if you do your job like Washington has been doing for what, the last 50 years? I doubt it.

Since they want to pass such worthless legislation all the time, lets all send a message to our “REPRESENTATIVES”... No more pay checks till your worth them.

To a Better Day

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By James Yell, May 21, 2007 at 10:41 am Link to this comment
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In truth the no bid contracts were never defensible. There was time and every reason to practice care in awarding contracts, and this is especially true in light of the lack of a War Tax to pay for this action. Instead what money is available is siphoned off by not holding these private contractors to account for the results of the money spent and disappeared.

There is more than passing suspicision that the private armies and contractors have been criminal in their behavior towards the citizens of Iraq and have even been a contributing reason for the growing lack of confidence in America’s occupation of Iraq.

Not to be complicated, but ask yourself, if a foreign army and occupation privatized behaved so arrogant and murderously in the United States how would you feel? Would an apology be enough when your family was blown up in a fire fight started by this foreign army, a family blown up in their own country, in front of their own tv, in their own home? If we aren’t liked I think that is largely the reason and our continued presence just increases the hate and real likelyhood that it was never anything but the oil, after all. Even Bush/Cheney knew that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.

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By nobozos, May 20, 2007 at 10:45 pm Link to this comment
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I actually had to watch this clip twice, utterly astounded by what a colossal horse’s ass Kingston is. I’d love to give the voters of Georgia hell for electing this buffoon, but as I’m from Idaho, a state also famous for sending the worst of the worst to Washington, that would be just too hypocritical. I will say Greenwald more that held his own…something most 12 year olds could do. however, given Kingston’s pathetically juvenile debating skills. And it was obvious he was so proud of his cutesy little performance.

My lord, but the man is a national embarrassment.

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By Shannon P., May 20, 2007 at 4:34 pm Link to this comment

Thanks Mr. Greenwald!..... For belonging to the side that REALLY does ‘Support the Troops’!    How do you like him now Georgia?

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By Nitro, May 20, 2007 at 3:49 pm Link to this comment

A big Hats Off and a Slap that man on the back award should go to Mr. Greenwald. Thanks for standing up and being a TRUE PATRIOT !

And Rep. Jack Kingston…. what a piece of work this poor excuse for a human being is, and an even poorer excuse for a government representative ! You can surely tell he is all for The Sale of Iraq, probably Iran as well. And all for the Haliburton’s of the world to stick it in theamericanpeople a little further. Hope you folks in Georgia remember this one !

To a Better Day

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By tom, May 20, 2007 at 9:49 am Link to this comment
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wow i cant belive that guy. Of course we should not be outsourceing that just opens a huge market for war(not that there wasnt one already anyway).  the soldiers are dying for there country lets give them all we can.

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By JNagarya, May 19, 2007 at 10:07 am Link to this comment

He’s correct.  Aren’t you also tired of the lazy military wives and widows, and their children, sitting on their butts, watching TeeVee all day, and getting fat eating all that free-handout patriotism?

I think we should charge all those cheats for the honor to join the military and be sent off to fight in Iraq.  And if they can’t come up with the entry fee, tough cookies for them: let them slobber and whine about how they’re too poor to afford sufficient patriotism to stuff themselves and their kids to excess.

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By THOMAS BILLIS, May 18, 2007 at 1:21 am Link to this comment
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I am sure that Congressman Kingston misspoke and what he meant to say is that in this this conflict as long as we can screw the only patriotic part of this whole ghastly war wouldn’t we be idiots not to.
They must have some really smart people in that Georgia congressional district to keep electing this moron to Congress.

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By rowdy, May 17, 2007 at 10:59 pm Link to this comment

this fool’s website has 5 phone #‘s. i called them all and sent email. come on, flood this assholes office with calls and email’s. how much of your precious time can it take, you have the time to post on TD.

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By Verne Arnold, May 17, 2007 at 7:51 pm Link to this comment

Oh my God…Jack Kingston is a flaming idiot!!!  I hope the real conservatives give him a good spanking.

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By PatrickHenry, May 17, 2007 at 3:57 pm Link to this comment

There are 1.400.000 million active duty U.S. Armed Forces.

There are 850.000 active reserves in the U.S.

Why we outsource and have to extend duty cycles for 150.000 - 200.000 Armed forces is beyond me. 

Appears we have too many REMF’s.

Blackwater, Halliburton, Custer take away from the military budget where it would be spent more wisely.

I wonder if Ike had to deal with the likes of “Jack Kingston” like politicians and Halliburton/KBR mogels.

What would Ike do if it was his budget?

Oh yeah, what budget.

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By Inherit The Wind, May 17, 2007 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment
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Wow! An honest Re-Thug-licker!  He happily defends graft and corruption rather than pretending otherwise.

“What’s wrong with spending our national treasure and future faster than a crystal meth addict?  As long as the GOP gets our share back from them.”

See? That’s the alternative to progressives and Democrats. Wealth-stealing Re-thugs.

Thanks for the honesty!

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By Neil Breakstone, May 17, 2007 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment
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Per Kingston’s logic, why not either reduce the soldiers’s pay, or, eliminate it altogether? And by the way, when will he be volunteering for military service in Iraq?

Kingston’s personna offers the clearest confirmation of Mark Twain’s comment, “The only native American criminal class——congress!”

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By chileno, May 17, 2007 at 9:50 am Link to this comment
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Rep. Kingston should educate himself with a copy of “Blood Money”, written last year by T.Christian Miller, which details a lot of the tremendous waste,the scandals,corruption,greed and lack of oversight and accountability that has been the trademark of the Iraqi reconstruction. This includes the myriad of “security” companies that moved in to make a killing on the war.

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By Forkboy, May 17, 2007 at 8:38 am Link to this comment

regarding Don Knutsen’s reply to my posting:

Sorry Don.  It was meant with no small amount of sarcasm (why are we discussing this). 

I’m discussing it because it needs to be so, just as you write.

Perhaps the appropriate emoticon would have helped my posting!

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By Outraged, May 16, 2007 at 10:48 pm Link to this comment


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By Barry, May 16, 2007 at 8:23 pm Link to this comment
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Rep. Kingston is simply defending the hand that feeds him.I live near wrafb and is saturated with defense contractors.saic boeing and mcdonnel-douglas to name a few.whats sad is to hear comments in a primeraly agriculture state.Most enlisted personnel come from the working poor & thats mostly the populace in the state excluding atlanta .Most of the local land has been lost to developers because farmers have been taxed out of thier property.I guess Rep kingston thinks the locals should either work for the defense cotractors or if there to stupid or poor should enlist.

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By Leefeller, May 16, 2007 at 6:46 pm Link to this comment

Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga. speaks from the wallet, for the wallet and to the wallet.
He worships money, let’s keep the special interests greasing his palms. He believes in corporate government like the Italian guy who got hung in the street after WWII.  Is he a member of the KKK?

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By CommonSense, May 16, 2007 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment
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Is there a bigger ass n the Congress than Kingston? Just today he was on “hardball” comparing the current war in Iraq with our continued troop deployment in Germany and Korea. It is truly hard to believe that he was actually elected to office….

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By don knutsen, May 16, 2007 at 4:36 pm Link to this comment

re: earlier comment #70415 by Forkboy
I’m sorry.  Why are we even discussing this?  Shouldn’t the people who should be pissed off be the men and women serving in uniform in the US Armed Services?

I agree that the servicemen & women have a right to be the most angry since its their ass on the line everyday over there. But we are discussing it because if you give a damn about america you too should be very pissed off at the way this administration conducts its buisness, privatizing everything they possibly can, replacing the original ideal of every aspect of our country with nothing but corporate profit. When the profiteers are making a killing, doing our killing, in an unjust war, we all, as patriots of this country, should be very pissed off. And more importantly, the only way we can change it is to become more engaged in fighting it.

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By PatrickHenry, May 16, 2007 at 4:15 pm Link to this comment

Another example of why we need national term limits for elected officals.

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By Forkboy, May 16, 2007 at 2:54 pm Link to this comment
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I’m sorry.  Why are we even discussing this?  Shouldn’t the people who should be pissed off be the men and women serving in uniform in the US Armed Services?  I believe a private army fighting and working in Iraq is wrong; pure and simple.  I also believe that most Americans would be appalled if they knew the true scale of what is going on in the halls of the Pentagon and in the offices of places like Blackwater.  But in the end, this really doesn’t effect you and me; those who do not serve in the military.

Instead it should be they who rise up and demand to be paid the going rate: that which privateers are paid.  Instead, many of those in the military, and their family members, blindly follow the mantra of the Republican Party:  we support the troops.

Right.  A war that was supposed to last 6-months that instead had dragged on for years and cost thousands of lives.  The fun that has been Walter Reed.  A VA system backed up beyond belief, but flush enough with cash to hand out bonuses.  Yep, Republicans really support the military…..the military industrial complex.  After all, why worry about the troops as they don’t have lobbyists and PACS, now do they?

Yes, Kingston is clearly an idiot, but can we really blame him?  After all, he is a Republican and look at the high-quality characters the party has given us for presidents in the latest years (Reagan and W; both dumber than dirt).

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By vet240, May 16, 2007 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment
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Jack(ass) Kingston says he represents 4 military installations. Does he not know that our military is all volunteer? Does he not know how hard the military has had to work in order to keep enlistments up with larger and larger sign-up bonuses?

Patriotism is not the reason the vast majority of Americans join the military Jack, so don’t insult their (military) intelligence by saying they would be insluted if they were offered pay compensorate to the Contracters.

You state how many military installations you represent. How many military contracters do you represent?

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By tomack, May 16, 2007 at 12:40 pm Link to this comment
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No, Mr. Knutsen (#70362), what’s amazing is that those individuals are even THERE.

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By don knutsen, May 16, 2007 at 12:11 pm Link to this comment

Isn’t it amazing, the caliber of individual that so often is a republican congressman. As is usual, rather then debate the issue, they sleeze their way over to attacking the messenger. Does anyone think the Congressman will take up the offer of talking to the soldiers with Greenmwald ? To most in the republican party it would seem that allegance to the party trumps whats best for the nation. The same party that happily followed behind the bug exterminator turned felon Delay. Watching Rep. Kingston in this clip says alot about why we are still in this mess over four years later. Still we have yet to hear why our men and women are dying, that dosen’t seem to be very important. We heard all kinda of lies why we needed to invade Iraq but during the past year or so apparently this administration dosen’t feel its necessary to tell us why anymore….I guess we’ll find out what we all knew from the beginning, that it was about our oil that the Iraqi’s had the gall to hide under their desert. I, like most, grew up thinking that our elected representitives were intellegent, capable individuals in it for the betterment of the nation. Only to come to the conclusion quite awhile ago that these are many times sleezy salesman types, that probably couldn’t get a job doing real work and should be selling painted chickens at the carnival. I’m sure congressman Kingston is in good company within the republican party. Lets all hope that 2008 will bring about a serious diminishing within the ranks of republican legislators…they surely deserve it. I bet theres even some folks in Georgia ( & the rest of dumbfuckistan ) who would agree.

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By John, May 16, 2007 at 12:09 pm Link to this comment
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Typical A-Hole

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By QuyTran, May 16, 2007 at 11:42 am Link to this comment

Halliburton ! Halliburton ! Only Halliburton !

Don’t waste your time discussing about war benefits when Cheney’s Halliburton doesn’t care about anything.

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By Dale Headley, May 16, 2007 at 11:04 am Link to this comment
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This brings into sharp focus the true motivation behind war for many warmongering conservatives:  for them, war is simply a good business practice; and the deaths of soldiers and civilians alike is unavoidable if we are to maximize the profits of American companies.

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By JackSucks, May 16, 2007 at 10:55 am Link to this comment
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F*** You Jack. You are a stupid prick.

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By kevin99999, May 16, 2007 at 9:57 am Link to this comment
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typical moronic logic by a GOP member.

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By Louise, May 16, 2007 at 8:54 am Link to this comment
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File under heading:
Open mouth, insert foot.

Patriotism. Tricky word.
Those Mercenaries might be just a bit ticked off at Kingston’s implication that they aren’t patriotic. On the other hand those REAL Soldiers and Marines and Air Force guys might be a bit ticked off by the implication that a decent salary isn’t important to them, so long as they can fight.

Like most republican web sites, Kingston’s proudly points out the disconnect between what is and what those what pays attention is supposed to believe what is ... “Throughout his career in public service at the state and national levels, he has fought to lower taxes, balance the budget, and reduce government interference in our lives.”

Yep, he’s a republican.

Guess he wasn’t there when the repub congress decided they had the right to over-ride her husband’s (and the courts) decision to let Terry Schiavo die in peace. Guess he was out of town all those times the repub congress shot the National Debt through the ceiling of the Congress ... making it possible to give all those tax cuts to the wealthy ... and, he dutifully supports Bushes bloody wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He’s not there either, of course.

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