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Bill Maher on LAPD Bullies

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Posted on May 14, 2007
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In light of the LAPD’s recent storm trooper-like behavior, Bill Maher reminds police everywhere, “We want to support you—even to love you—but you have to remember, it says ‘To protect and serve’ on the side of the car, not ‘What the f—- are you looking at?’ ”

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By cann4ing, May 16, 2007 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Schmedlap, the fact that you “assume” that everyone in the park was an “illegal” alien only serves to underscore the racism which is the driving force of your opinions.

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By Skruff, May 16, 2007 at 7:19 am Link to this comment
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“I seriously question your assertion that it is unlawful to congregate in a public park”

As a veteran of many “protests” I sadly report that it is illegal (under some considerations) to congragate in groups of more than three.  Thye Government trots out an old civil war statute making the assembly of three or more people illegal if authorities SUSPECT these folks are plotting against governmental interests.

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By joeschmedlap, May 16, 2007 at 6:38 am Link to this comment

Hey, great use of the word “conflated”. Point of fact, yes I am what I say I am, yes I hold several degress although not a Juris Dr. which you may have. Point of fact #2, as to being the attny. hired to defend me, every attny. has opposing council, so for every one of you there is a prosecutor or city attny. or states attny. on the RIGHT side.

The fact that their Metro Commander was demoted by a political hack who panders to illegals and limo-libs means zilch to me or anyone with 1/2 a brain who follows LA politics. Did you people learn nothing after Watts riots, or the Rodney-riots in 93’? As to the scintilla of evidence? Well how about the video, now seldom seen in media but available that first day, of the lovely little crowd throwing bottles and rocks at cops (bottles filled in some cases w/urine it was reported)—but of course if it was YOUR job to deal with them you would no doubt sit there and take it and let the little dears take over streets & parks at will like they apparently did with that whole part of the state already. Liberals like you will always cower to the mob, like you did in grade school when they took your lunch money.. and when the mob takes control the people they ALWAYS seem to hurt are the ones cowering and pandering to them… It shall always be people like myself who are left to scrape your ilk off the sidewalk, and to later be shunned by you publically no matter what I have given of myself to help you.

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By cann4ing, May 15, 2007 at 5:59 pm Link to this comment

re Comment #70169 by Joeschmedlap.  Your absurd response causes me to question the veracity of your assertion that you were ever an emergency response commander, or for that matter, someone who was ever associated with law enforcement.  Even LAPD’s chief of police recognized that his officers were way out of line.

There is not a scintilla of evidence to reflect that the May Day melee was in response to a “mini-riot.”  As civil rights attorney Carol Sobel, who was at the event, pointed out on Democracy Now! where the LAPD initially sought to blame the incident on 50 to 100 “agitators,” later reduced to 30, per Sobel, it was more like ten.  The Metro goon squad sought to blame these “agitators” (whom you have now conflated into mini-rioters) because they had the nerve to verbally criticize the police when, without provocation, the police ran their motorcycles into women and children in the Aztec dancers group who were still performing their ritual circle dance at the end of the march in a street that had already been closed to traffic.  Interesting tactic, that, striking women and children with motorcycles as a means of crowd control.

The Metro Division unit involved in the May Day melee was headed by the now demoted Deputy Chief Cayler “Lee” Carter, the same individual and unit whose use of excessive force during the 2000 Democratic National Convention produced litigation and rather hefty settlements at the expense of Los Angeles taxpayers.

If you really were an emergency response commander, it is a very good thing that you are retired.  With your attitude, I would hate to have to have been the attorney who had to be called upon to try to defend the municipality that was foolish enough to employ you.

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By joeschmedlap, May 15, 2007 at 5:03 pm Link to this comment

well yes I do believe that, and I have defended just such acts in court. THere may or may not be individual acts that are out of policy however the entire act to quell that mini-riot is defensible. I do not have a limited world view, I have a realistic world view based on actually doing the job at command level for decades. That being said, I find it to be a “smelly load” to defend public affray being conducted by an illegal alien. In point of fact I find it still debateable that an illegal alien has ANY constitutional guarantees.

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By cann4ing, May 15, 2007 at 4:41 pm Link to this comment

re comment #70144 by Joeschmedlap.  Aside from the fact that I seriously question your assertion that it is unlawful to congregate in a public park, are you telling me that the mere “possibility” that this rally “may” have exceeded the scope of some unspecified permit justified indiscriminately firing away into a crowd that included very young children and beating the crap out of anyone who doesn’t move fast enough to get out of the way!  Do you really believe the smelly load you just dumped on this site? 

I suppose to someone of your limited worldview it matter not that the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution proscribes infringement of the right of the People to peaceably assemble or that our courts have long held that government’s regulatory interest is limited to assuring a “reasonable time and place”—not proscribing the right of assembly altogether.

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By joeschmedlap, May 15, 2007 at 2:52 pm Link to this comment

Oh please!! As a retired emergency response commander let me let you guys in on a few things. These rallys are PRECEDED by a meeting with the organizers and the cops. They are told up front what can and cannot be done. Taking over a street or any public area (park) without a permit is not allowed. The rally has to continue along their chosen route that they are allowed. Before you say that is unfair try to imagine being one of the millions of other people in LA who are trying to commute in that area. And yes the media is given the same briefing, so their CHOICE to stay in the melee and in the way of advancing skirmish lines of officers is either stupidity or intentionally becoming part of the story.

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By dantinak, May 15, 2007 at 2:27 pm Link to this comment

So I should get a “better life”? most of the excops I know are alcoholics.. My life is a hell of a lot better than theirs!

Most of the social workers I knew were very nice people.  The couple that were not certainly did not represent all.  You paint all cops with the same brush, somehow I knew you would.  I have seen some poor kids whose parents worked long and hard at low wage jobs.  I saw others whose parents were dopers and snorted or shot up all their money.  No outsourcing of jobs caused those parents to do drugs. 

Yep I have seen poor folks, lots of them.  My job was not protect them.  Sometimes cops do good at that and sometimes not.  Just like social workers.  I am just saying Maher’s comments were downright funny and you are really way to serious.

Time for a brew, yep one of those alcoholic cops.

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By Skruff, May 15, 2007 at 1:19 pm Link to this comment
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“Come on, is everyone supposed to cry elephant tears for everyone who might not be happy with their life?  If you are unhappy living in the slums then find a way to move out!  There have been so many success stories that saying you are stuck in the slums and how it is society’s fault just doesn’t cut it.  Don’t depend upon anyone else, if you want a better life then go get it.”

Typical cop assumption… AND as usual, wrong.  I lived where I lived because I was a social worker, paid (very well) by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, BUT I saw what I saw. 

It may not be “societies fault” that we embraced out-sourcing, unbridled immigration, and a propensity to “help” other countries before helping our own, BUT as a cop you must have seen the children religated to unmitigated filty and poverty because their parents worked at labor, rather than in management.

So I should get a “better life”? most of the excops I know are alcoholics.. My life is a hell of a lot better than theirs!

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By dantinak, May 15, 2007 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment

“You are a retired policeman, so tell me honestly… did you ever have a good laugh at the expense of folks living in the slums?  What was the attitude of officers you worked with concerning the folks who lived down by the old (usually non-working) rail yards?”

Come on, is everyone supposed to cry elephant tears for everyone who might not be happy with their life?  If you are unhappy living in the slums then find a way to move out!  There have been so many success stories that saying you are stuck in the slums and how it is society’s fault just doesn’t cut it.  Don’t depend upon anyone else, if you want a better life then go get it.

What was our attitude about poor people? Some we liked some we didn’t.  Just like rich folks.  You can’t paint all cops with one brush, just like you can’t paint all poor or rich people with one brush.  Stop crying and move your life forward.

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By Mike Munde, May 15, 2007 at 11:07 am Link to this comment
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For an alternative view of cops (LAPD):

http://www.laweekly.com/la-people-2007/sunil-dutta/16346/

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By Skruff, May 15, 2007 at 6:50 am Link to this comment
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70002 by dantinak on 5/14 at 6:50 pm


“From a retired cop’s viewpoint” “...The good guys may not always do good,” 

“And for everyone who bashes all cops over this, the next time you need someone to pull your sorry ass out of trouble go ahead and call us.  We will still come and put our lives on the line for you.”

Sell that to all those white middle-class suburbanites who lock their car doors everytime they drive from Scarsdale to the Bronx.

I lived in a neighborhood where the cops never came, unless some Madress-dressed Yuppie got in trouble, than they all came with Mac 10s drawn and attitude on high.  Pushed people attempting to get to their homes around, and “occupied” what they considered a war zone.  Unlike the Yuppie who probably was crusing for a prostitute or drugs, everyone who lived down there was guilty, and subject to abuse and rough treatment.

You are a retired policeman, so tell me honestly… did you ever have a good laugh at the expense of folks living in the slums?  What was the attitude of officers you worked with concerning the folks who lived down by the old (usually non-working) rail yards?

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By dantinak, May 14, 2007 at 7:50 pm Link to this comment

From a retired cop’s viewpoint this was hilarious.  The part about Dr Phil and what is on the side of police vehicles was great. 

That said, everyone needs to realize the world can be a shitty place.  The good guys may not always do good, the bad guys may not always do bad.  Get on with your life and quit crying.  Time spent not laughing at yourself and others is time wasted.

And for everyone who bashes all cops over this, the next time you need someone to pull your sorry ass out of trouble go ahead and call us.  We will still come and put our lives on the line for you.  No complaints, it is what we do.  But we will laugh our ass off over how scared you looked.  It is just what we do.

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By cann4ing, May 14, 2007 at 5:36 pm Link to this comment

There can be no doubt that the undertone of racism beneath the immigrant bashing of the last two years was the key source of this unprovked assault.  I suppose most are not old enough to remember seeing, live, the black and white images of Bull Conor’s all-white police force attacking peaceful African-American demonstrators with truncheons, fire hoses and unmuzzled dogs.

Not racist, you say?  When is the last time you heard someone bash illegal Canadian immigrants or propose the building of a wall along the Canadian border?  The only thing separating the vigilantes who describe themselves as “Minute Men” and the KKK are the white sheets.

The irony of the May Day melee is that it occurred in McArthur Park.  While most are aware of General McArthur’s World War II exploits, his acceptance of the Japanese surrender on the Battleship Missouri, and his being fired by Truman during the Korean war before the nut could lead us into World War III, how many are aware that it was Douglas McArthur’s troops, under a command from President Hoover, who busted heads as they waded into an encampment of homeless World War I vets in Washington DC.

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By Bill Blackolive, May 14, 2007 at 3:32 pm Link to this comment
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Bill, ok, fake war on drugs, fake war on terror, and US cops from grade school since jack Kerouac at least.  I am hearing a third of the citizens think there is a 9/11 coverup, which is not spoken of on corporate media, but if you will check out patriotsquestion911.com/media you will be encouraged to jump on the wagon, hundreds of celebrities and authorities see the 911 coverup, say so individually, though have yet to realise their powers in these large numbers.  This thing can be turned around easily.

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By Skruff, May 14, 2007 at 11:07 am Link to this comment
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Bill Maher on LAPD Bullies claims;


“We want to support you—even to love you…”

Please tell me who “we” is? 

Cops suck….all of them. Sometimes (as in LA now, and Chicago in ‘68) they expose their true colors….and all the liberals are surprised.

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By schock, May 14, 2007 at 9:25 am Link to this comment
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This is funny, but the feeling we should have right now is anger at the injustice and brutality that took place in MacArthur Park. For a compilation of first hand accounts, video, and photos, as well as ongoing coverage, please check out la.indymedia.org. Also, please come out on May 17 to support the march and vigil for immigrants rights and against police brutality. 5pm at Macarthur Park.

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