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Posted on Mar 1, 2007
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While discussing the Internet’s racy photos of “American Idol” contestant Antonella Barba, CNN “Headline News” host Glenn Beck abruptly said to his guest, US Weekly’s Dina Sansing, “Dina, I’ve got some time and a camera. Why don’t you stop by?” After a few seconds of stunned silence, Beck said “No? OK.”

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According to Media Matters, Beck has a history of sexually inappropriate on-air comments, which can be found here, here and here.

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By Donald Braden, March 12, 2007 at 9:11 am Link to this comment
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Neil,

Again, he used gender specifically and, judging by her reaction, stunned silence, she did not really see it the way you do.

I have had bosses that always said the inappropriate thing regarding protected classes. Work is not a casual setting, it is wrong to do so. One of my coworkers picked up a nickname, Manuel. 3 guesses about what his race is.

It seems harmless enough but it is indicative of a lack of respect and often marks a pattern of behavior. Glenn Beck is displaying a pattern of behavior here. I still feel he needs to be held to account.

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By Neil, March 9, 2007 at 3:46 pm Link to this comment
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Well, I still think there’s a difference between propositioning someone to have sex and making a sarcastic comment that is taken the wrong way. Whether or not he thought he was going to “score” with her is beside the point.

What is significant is whether he was making a rhetorical statement that crossed the line of appropriateness, or whether he was coming onto her sexually on television (or privately, for that matter). I see a big difference between the two.

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By Donald Braden, March 9, 2007 at 2:05 pm Link to this comment
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Neil,

Sexual Harrassment is somewhat vaguely defined in our society. I happen to believe that utilizing someone’s gender against them in a professional environment constitutes harrassment.

That is why I focused in on his intent in his remarks and why I did say that it did not matter whether or not he actually thought he was going to score a nude photo shoot with her.

He was using her gender against her, that is harrassment. It is the same with any other protected class issue in the professional world.

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By Neil, March 8, 2007 at 11:02 pm Link to this comment
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Donald:

You are correct that I am merely countering the position that he seriously propositioned her. However, I disagree with you that the point is irrelevant.

I entered into this discussion because people were comparing Beck to O’Reilly, most notably Olbermann himself, who said he was worse than O’Reilly, since at least O’Reilly did his propositioning in private, as well as many posters here, who have lumped him together with O’Reilly.

And, while I don’t condone his statement, and have said that I believe he crossed the line, I don’t think it rises to the level of a sexual advance, and I don’t believe he should be lumped with O’Reilly, who clearly made sexual advances towards those he worked with.

Why does it matter? If it’s sexual harassment what difference does it make?

Well, I guess I believe that making an inappropriate sarcastic commment is a lot different than making a full-on sexual advance. And, while I’m no fan of Beck’s, I certainly don’t believe it helps anything to distort the situation.

So, while I don’t want to defend Beck, I also believe there’s a difference between making an inappropriate remark and making a sexual advance.

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By Dale Headley, March 8, 2007 at 4:52 pm Link to this comment
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Glenn Beck is a scumbag.  Why would the mainstream, liberal, media, like ABC, hire him for their morning show?  Because the liberal media is a myth repeated again and again since Watergate - so many times that it has become dogma.  Hey, mainstream media, hire Noam Chomsky, or Gore Vidal, of Mario Cuomo; then we can talk about liberal bias.  Put on a miniseries about how Bush sctrewed up before 9-11 instead of Clinton; then liberal bias could be something we could discuss.  In any case, Glenn Beck is a scumbag!

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By Donald Braden, March 7, 2007 at 5:19 pm Link to this comment
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Neil,

OK, I think I see the hang up. You are simply fighting off the notion that he was actually propositioning her seriously.

For myself, and probably many of the others that have chimed in on this, it is the sexual harassment that is the issue. That is why I likened your argument to the Coulter defenders argument.

In context, Beck was using her gender against her to make his point, that is, by definition, harrassment. That is wrong and he should face consequences for that. To quibble over whether or not he was serious about getting a positive response from her is moot, just as whether or not Coulter was making reference to the Grey’s Anatomy frakas is moot.

Glenn Beck intended to make his point by using her gender against her. He would not have used this tactic against a man.

Ann Coulter intended to make it known she thought John Edwards was a ‘faggot’. She would not have brought up the rehab bit if that was not her intent.

It does not matter whether Glenn really thought she would take him up on it, it is harrassment. He should be held to account.

It does not matter whether Ann was making a commentary on what rehab is used for in todays world, it is hate speech and she and those that applauded her should be held to account.

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By Neil, March 7, 2007 at 1:38 pm Link to this comment
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Re: “Neil if he said that your wife/daughter/mother would you laugh it off, or get pissed off?”

Do you have the impression that I’m “laughing it off”? I’ve said several times that his comment was inappropriate; that it was a sarcastic remark, but that it crossed the line; and that he’s a doof. What gave you the impression that I was “laughing it off”?

Please read the comments before commenting on them.

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By Borat, March 7, 2007 at 8:49 am Link to this comment
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Neil if he said that your wife/daughter/mother would you laugh it off, or get pissed off?

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By Greg Bacon, March 7, 2007 at 4:57 am Link to this comment
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While he’s having fun with his camera, maybe Beck can borrow some sponges from Bill O’Reilly and some dope from Rush Limbaugh.

Sounds like some kinky, right-wing fun.

Beck is a very dangerous man.  He does an excellent job of inflaming hatred towards Muslims and the good people of Iran.

He’s nothing more than a well paid lackey for the neocon extremists.

Like he says, he’s nothing more than a (rodeo) CLOWN.

Greg Bacon
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By Neil, March 6, 2007 at 9:36 pm Link to this comment
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weltec2: you may be right. I didn’t see the whole interview, so you may be right. His body language may have indicated that something else was going on. And, who knows—maybe when he asked her, knowing (I assume) that she wouldn’t say yes, perhaps just the thrill of asking her gave him some weird sexual gratification. You may be right.

On the other hand, just seeing what I saw in context, it seemed a pretty straightforward sarcastic remark. She said she didn’t think everyone who had nude pictures taken of themselves need to worry about them getting out; he made the point that there’s a digital footprint in the camera, even after pictures are deleted, and that you don’t have to be famous to worry about it; she said, “Possibly”; he said, “You don’t think so?”; she said, “It depends”; and then he made his infamous statement that he has time and a camera.

It seems pretty straightforward to me. He was trying to convince her that people should worry about having their picture taken in the nude; she kept saying, “Possibly,” “It depends,” and so on; and so he made his statement about having a camera.

Seems like straight sarcasm to me.

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By Neil, March 6, 2007 at 9:20 pm Link to this comment
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Donald: I believe there’s a difference between what I’m saying and what people defending Coulter are saying. I’m saying to look at his statement in context, and that it was obvious (to me anyway) that it was sarcasm. If the Coulter people are saying what you say they are, then they’re just drawing an argument out of the dark, just finding something that can be used to justify her remark. I’m not doing that. I’m saying to look at his remark in context, and it’s clear (to me, anyway) that it was sarcasm.

As I noted before: was it inappropriate? yes; was it a literal request for her to pose for nude pictures? no—or, at least, that’s how it appears to me.

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By Neil, March 6, 2007 at 9:16 pm Link to this comment
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RS: The reason I say that it’s obvious he didn’t expect her to take him up on it is because no sane person would expect someone to say on the air, “OK, sure, you can take naked pictures of me.” The whole proposition that he was propositioning her is absurd.

Now, if you want to take the position that he’s insane, then all bets are off. I, personally, don’t think he’s insane, though he seems to be somewhat of an ignorant, insensitive doof, who doesn’t know where the boundaries are. But I don’t think he’s insane.

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By RS Janes, March 6, 2007 at 5:59 pm Link to this comment
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Neil, I saw the clip in context, and it looked liked, considering the embarrassing pause after he dropped his little bomblet, that she thought he was trying to pick her up, and he didn’t dispel that notion immediately.

For you to say “Obviously, he didn’t expect her to take him up on it, which is why it’s ridiculous to say that he was seriously propositioning her,” implies that you have some knowledge not available to the average viewer. If you are not Glenn Beck himself, do you possess some power to read his mind? Referring to the context, it was obvious to me that he was trying to proposition her; you see it differently, fine, but you go on to say he didn’t expect her to take him up on it. Where do you get that?

BTW, this is a guy who’s apparently terrified of Muslims, and has in the past wished for Michael Moore and other people he doesn’t care for to die in various ways. A reasonable person would not publicly fantasize about such things, so it can’t be taken for granted that he would not use his broadcast to propostition someone.

IMO, he’s a nutcase, so he’s capable of anything.

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By Donald Braden, March 6, 2007 at 9:59 am Link to this comment
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I have noticed that Neil shares something in common with the defenders of Ann Coulter. An ability to separate intent from what was said.

Neil is saying since Glenn obviously did not have a shot with Dina, his remarks should only be viewed as the sarcastic remark that they may well have been. I agree with the last poster though, his body language betrayed embarrassment at getting ignored more than any point proven attitude.

The Ann Coulter defenders keep saying look, if you read what she said it is OBVIOUS that she was referring to the Grey’s Anatomy dust up a few weeks ago. They very conveniantly ignore the fact that what she said and meant wass that since it is not PC to talk about faggots then she can’t EVEN open up a conversation about Edwards.

That is the disgusting part. Poking fun at the Grey’s Anatomy bit is one thing, but to use it to imply that she can’t say anything about Edwards because she can’t use the word faggot without going to rehab is reprehensible and motivated by hate and a desire to stir up controversy.

Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter defenders are using the exact same logic model to defend both, and it is a very flawed argument.

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By Alejandro, March 6, 2007 at 5:14 am Link to this comment
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Why does this LOP still have a job is my question? The only answer I can come up with is that how far down the barrel the execs of news organizations will go for TV ratings. Sad indeed…

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By weltec2, March 5, 2007 at 10:59 pm Link to this comment
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weltec2

Neil keeps saying things like, “If you read the remark in context, you’ll see it wasn’t a sexual advance.” I was working at my desk doing other things with the broadcast going on in the background. I remember thinking at the time that, not simply what he was saying but from his body language and delivery (the way he chuckled too nervously as he was talking with her), Glenn Beck was very taken with Dina. And then the way he forced the conversation in order to hit on her. By the time he actually brought himself to do the deed it was already more than obvious that there were no other intentions. The awkwardness for me was not simply at the end, it was already there in the build up because the listener knew something was going to happen; but I just couldn’t bring myself to believe that he would do something like that on the air. And then he did it.

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By Neil, March 5, 2007 at 10:23 pm Link to this comment
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Re: “What was Beck’s point anyway.”

The point he was making was that anyone who has those sorts of pictures taken should expect that they could become public. Obviously, he didn’t expect her to take him up on it, which is why it’s ridiculous to say that he was seriously propositioning her. It was an absurd statement meant to counter what he saw as her absurd position, namely that one could have pictures taken and not have them become public.

Perhaps by analogy one could say that it would be akin to him saying that anyone who walks along the ledge of a roof should expect that they might fall off, and Dina saying that’s not necessarily the case. If he then said, “Hey, Dina, why don’t we go on the roof and you can walk along the ledge?” he doesn’t expect that she’s actually going to walk on the ledge with him. He would just be using sarcasm to make a point, countering what he sees as a ridiculous position with an equally ridiculous proposition.

As for the awkward silence, you’d have to ask him why he didn’t have a follow-up. If I had to guess, though, I’d say that when he made the statement he expected Dina to realize he was being sarcastic and say something like, “Right, sure.” When she just sat there and stared, he realized that she didn’t know he was being sarcastic, and he didn’t know how to respond. Like telling a joke where no one gets the punch line: do you backtrack and try to explain it, or do you just move on? Apparently he decided to just move on.

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By Dennis D, March 5, 2007 at 9:22 pm Link to this comment
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I can’t figure out what Glen Beck is supposed to be with his hand waving and face in the camera shtick.
Where the hell do the networks find these people. Just when I think the bar can’t be lowered here comes another talking head telling me absolutely nothing. It’s way past time to replace my TV with a fish tank.

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By Pressmyluck, March 5, 2007 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment
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Don’t blame Keith Olbermann for posting this video.  Youtube.com had it up 3 days prior to Olbermann.  It has been viewed 263,900 times with 715 comments and 7 video responses.

I had no idea who Glenn Beck was until viewing this on YouTube.  I did some online research and saw other sexual harassment type statements with Erica Hill and concluded the man is an sexist idiot.  If conservatives think sexual harassment is funny - it was just a joke - there in lies the problem.  I feel bad for his wife.  You would think he would keep his sexual comments and references in check out of respect for her.

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By Neil, March 5, 2007 at 11:49 am Link to this comment
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Neil,

In or out of context, it was sexist balderdash. He would not have said the same thing to a male guest to make his point. He used her gender against her to make his point if your argument is to stand.

Having watched the entire segment and not just the clip, gender was not part of the discussion until after that comment. The first I recall gender coming up was when he said that Fox must be loving it since it was the ‘Hot Chick’ that was naked on the internet.

If he meant it as you insist he did, he would have had a comeback or follow up other than an awkward ‘no, ok’.  Been a few days since I watched it, I mostly remember the awkwardness.

He has exhibited a pattern of sexual harrassment on the air. The most stunning example of which was his treatment of Erica Hill when his show first started.

Beck would talk about how jealous his wife is when Erica is on and how she commented on the way Erica looks at him when on the air.  My fave was telling her he was doing the show with no pants on though.

Given this prior pattern, I am not willing to simply say this was ‘sarcasm’, and write it off.

I do agree with Lisa Bee, Dina was only saying that not everyone who has racy photos snapped of them should ‘expect’ them to be posted on the internet.

She did point out that if you look at people seeking fame though, American Idol contestants and so forth, they should be aware any of this stuff lurking around out there could and likely will come up. She just felt that not everyone should expect it to happen.

What was Beck’s point anyway. She was talking about the expectation of not having intimate photos posted, something likely shared by those in a relationship. She was just arguing that people should not expect those types of things to be posted. He is not in a relationship with Dina, He is essentially just some creepy guy. why would he think propositioning her sarcastically or not would prove his point?

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By RS Janes, March 5, 2007 at 5:34 am Link to this comment
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Uh, Leo, we don’t all live with our mother’s as Mr. Beck obviously does. “Time for a change, Ma, I stink somethin’ awful!” “I’m coming, Glenny!”

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By Neil, March 4, 2007 at 7:32 pm Link to this comment
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Re: Why didn’t he say that after he obviously dropped a lead balloon? Instead of saying “Oh, okay,” why didn’t he say “I was just kidding”?

I guess he just thought people had enough sense to realize he was being sarcastic and to connect a statement with the statements made immediately prior to it. In other words, he overestimated the intelligence of those who would view the clip later.

Olbermann is mostly to blame for this, ‘cause he was the one who originally took the statement and played it on his show out of context. Since these two are currently having a cat-fight, it was a good way for him to get at Beck. But it was poor journalism on his part.

If Olbermann hadn’t played the statement out of context (with the resulting replaying of Olbermann’s abbreviated clip on the Internet), there wouldn’t be half as much furor as there is.

But since most of it is from people who want to find fault with Beck anyway, it probably wouldn’t have mattered what Olbermann did.

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By Lisa Bee, March 4, 2007 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment
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I think everyone is misinterpreting what Dina was saying, actually. If you watch the whole interview, she said that if you ever think there’s a chance you want to be famous - say you’ve dreamed of being on American Idol since it first aired - you should avoid letting people take racy pictures. But Beck wanted to be provocative, so he tried to get her to say that anyone, anywhere, in any office, could somehow be snapped nude and splashed on YouTube. Maybe in HIS office. Not mine. And not Dina’s - obviously, she knows how to rebuff a stupid idea when she hears it. So the point he was trying to make was pedantic if not bullshit, and the way he made it was execrable. What an idiot.

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By Leo Browne, March 4, 2007 at 9:16 am Link to this comment
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I love it. Honest talk. The rest of you should have your mother change your diaper.

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By RS Janes, March 4, 2007 at 5:45 am Link to this comment
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Beck must either be kissing someone’s behind or have something on CNN and ABC execs - how does a guy who’s losing ratings on CNN Headline News get hired by ABC’s ‘Good Morning America’ to do commentary?

In response to those comments claiming he was only being sarcastic: Why didn’t he say that after he obviously dropped a lead balloon? Instead of saying “Oh, okay,” why didn’t he say “I was just kidding”?

In my viewing of the clip, I think if she had taken him up on it, he wouldn’t have turned her down. After all, anybody as nutjob-right as Glenn Beck must be pretty lonely these days.

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By Chaseme, March 4, 2007 at 12:21 am Link to this comment
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For a complete list of the likes of Glenn Beck, simply google: Republican Sex Scandal. At the top of the entry, you will find a site which list all of them (that are known).

I tried to copy the link, but “Truthdig” would not let me post it, citing: Action Denied: Blacklisted Item Found

WTF, huh?

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By MOE, March 3, 2007 at 11:27 pm Link to this comment
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IT HAS BEEN SAID ATHAT EXCESSIVE USE OF ALCOHOL DAMAGES ONES BRAIN. NOW WE HAVE PROOF.  SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET HIM AND SNOT NOSED SEAN HANNITY OFF THE AIR.. I’M SURE THE SPONSERS CAN PICK THE REVENUE ELSEWHERE…

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By D. Thoits, March 3, 2007 at 3:41 pm Link to this comment
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Beck is a repulsive dolt that causes me to want to throw up, with his cheap shots and non funny crap.
CNN should throw his ass of the air along with that pudgy racist Lou Dobbs.

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By Neil, March 3, 2007 at 2:57 pm Link to this comment
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Donald: I agree with you that it was a bit inappropriate. It made his guest feel uncomfortable, and was a bit over the line.

However, my statement was that it was not a *sexual advance.* Inappropriate? Yes. Sexual advance? No.

Everyone is comparing him to O’Reilly and saying that he made this sexual advance on the air. He did not. He made a sarcastic statement that was intended to prove a point and which perhaps crossed the line a bit. But it was not a sexual advance.

It would have been better for him if he had explained himself immediately afterwards (for the sarcastically-challenged among us), but, unfortunately, he didn’t.

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By Traeh79, March 3, 2007 at 11:51 am Link to this comment
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What an a__hole Beck is!

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By Ben Abbott, March 2, 2007 at 7:35 pm Link to this comment
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Beck is a total liability for CNN. When such individuals think their constitutional protections place them above the law, they become as much a danger to civil liberties as are authorities who seek to persecute the press.

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By R.M., March 2, 2007 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment
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Even if that smarmy creep were my brother, I would never speak to him again and would prohibit
him from contacting any of my other family members if possible.
  Why is he on CNN? What an ugly act that was!

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By Donald Braden, March 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment
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I watched the entire clip, and that comment was totally out of line. The question to ask to determine if it is not professional behavior:

Would Glenn Beck have made the same remark to a man?

No.

It was unprofessional. He said that it could happen in every office. She said possibly. He went on and she was trying to say it depends and he rolled over her reply asking her to come over so he could snap nude photos of her.

It is Wrong and unprofessional. If not harrassment it at least hurts his credibility.

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By Neil, March 2, 2007 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment
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If you read the remark in context, you’ll see it wasn’t a sexual advance. He was saying that anyone who has nude pictures of themselves taken is running the risk of them being exposed, whoever they are. Dina said she wasn’t sure, that it depended. Then, a bit later, he made the statement about taking pictures of her—sarcasm in response to her statement that it was sometimes OK to have naked pictures taken.

Do you really think he expected her to take his offer seriously? The only issue here is that most people apparently can’t appreciate sarcasm.

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By michele, March 2, 2007 at 9:34 am Link to this comment
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not a whole lot of difference between him and O’Reilly is there ?

both disturbed.

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By Brian, March 2, 2007 at 9:05 am Link to this comment
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Beck is sick. We should boycott his advertisers.

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By Schuyler, March 2, 2007 at 8:54 am Link to this comment
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It’s amazing this comes only days after his tiff with Olbermann, who said recently that Beck seemed only a dumb comment away from loosing his job.

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By cybersaint2k, March 2, 2007 at 6:37 am Link to this comment
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Glenn Beck was being edgy, but he was not being sexual. He was intentionally challenging her silly statement about how naked pictures floating around the Internet of you won’t change your life.

Glenn Beck is a surprisingly good interviewer. The uncomfortable silence is not because of an ill-placed sexual advance, but because he made his counter-point to her silly notion in a shocking way.

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By nicole, March 1, 2007 at 11:00 pm Link to this comment
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What a tosser.

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By Christine Long, March 1, 2007 at 10:32 pm Link to this comment
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Glenn ..she should sue your ass off..you have gone to far this time..time for you to go home and not come back on air

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By enemy of the people, March 1, 2007 at 10:27 pm Link to this comment
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1. Why is this program on CNN Headline NEWS???

2. Why is this person on CNN Headline NEWS???

3. This kind of drivel is exactly why I stopped viewing CNN in all its incarnations. If I wanted right-wing crap coming out of my television in MY home, I would turn to FOX. As it is, I do not watch any station with CNN or FOX in the name. Ever. That means no Fox sports, no Fox anything. No Anderson Cooper. None of any of that stuff because by watching the bearable shows, you are endorsing the repugnant shows.

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By Christopher Robin, March 1, 2007 at 8:27 pm Link to this comment
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I understand he’s conservative and all that. But he did strike me as someone with a few loose screws. This confirms it.

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