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Posted on Feb 28, 2007
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In this June 2006 speech before a Chicago congregation, Sen. Barack Obama opens up about his past struggles with religion, his eventual commitment to Christianity, and his belief that spirituality and politics can enrich and complement each other. 


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By Lifestride, July 3, 2007 at 5:52 am Link to this comment
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SAY “NO” TO OBAMA 08!  DON’T WAKE UP TO THIS NIGHTMARE!

BREAKING NEWS!

It is January 21, 2009 President Barack Hussein Obama was inaugurated yesterday.  National security was tight.  Osama Bin Laden, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Shiite leader in Iraq Muqtada al-Sadar, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, and the 6 Muslim Imans Removed From Flight 300 had been secretly waiting a few blocks from the whitehouse in anticipation of celebrating the Presidential victory with President Obama.

Martial law went into effect on daybreak of January 21, 2009.  The Constitution of the United States has been amended and the American people no longer have the right to bear arms.  All Americans refusing to accept Islam will be put in concentration camps to be beheaded or lined up and fired upon execution style.

Women will lose all rights to work or be independent.  Women will be ordered immediately to stay home and cover up with a burqa when out in public.  Women will no longer have the privilege of driving.  If a woman does not have a man providing for her President Obama has ordered that a man be appointed to her as her husband, keeper, and provider.  Women are deficient and must surrender to the care of a man.

Children will be taught the Quran at every public school and every school must require that every child pray 5 times a day to Allah.  Christian schools will be turned into schools of Islamic worship.

Christian churches will be turned into mosques and prayer call will be 5 times a day.

Hollywood is filth and must be diminished.  Actors and Actresses must surrender their homes to the Imams of Islam and to the President Obama’s honored Islamic guests.

Thanks to Allah the Mexican border is fenced up and nobody can leave through the south side of the United States.  Islam will have all the working Mexican and South American slaves to continue to support America’s work force without pay.  Thanks to Allah there are also working non-paid slaves from all over the world in the United States.

American currency will no longer be of any value.  Allah will pay everyone accordingly.

Stay tuned for the new name of our country and be proud that Barack Hussein Obama has many years left to forever (Like Saddam.) be President of the most powerful country in the world.

THANKS FOR ELECTING OBAMA AS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

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By Randy Buckley, March 5, 2007 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment
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Anyone running for President has to profess Christian beliefs if he wants to win.  I wish it was not true but it is so why not put it aside and vote for Obama cause he has a chance to win and he is left of center.

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By dick, March 4, 2007 at 2:18 pm Link to this comment
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Definitions:  mythology is other peoples’ religion. Religion is a misinterpretation of myth. In any case, only religion has bought about so much hate and violence in the world.

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By John Lowell, March 4, 2007 at 12:32 pm Link to this comment
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emh,

Reach through to the lie in your self-idea, have I, emh. So much for the myth of atheist “tolerance”. I have some news for you, commissar: Next time you send your thugs to break up a Mass at St. Pat’s there’ll be police waiting for you.

John Lowell

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By emh, March 3, 2007 at 2:20 pm Link to this comment
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John Lowell, spoken like a true censoring religous person.  That talk of yours is what fuels intolerance.  Attack and censor the opinions!! Well done in that respect, John Lowell.

Thanks for the affirmation.

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By cJw, March 3, 2007 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment
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“I am a christian born and raised (and I mean I went to church EVERY sunday growing up)”

wth does “church EVERY sunday” have to do with being a Christian? Wait - you must mean Catholic… -.-


If Obama’s just gunning for more votes with his mention of his Christian beliefs, then yar, liars be gone and who wants them in office.

Of course, has there ever been a candidate for presidency who hasn’t lied to get into office? How are we to ever know what they’ll actually do once they’re “elected”, anyway?

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By jer, March 2, 2007 at 7:43 am Link to this comment
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I can certainly understand why many people are turned off by religion—with so many people having suffered in numerous ways due to hypocritical religiosity—but please let’s look at the big picture and give thought to his message before we completely tune him out.  We cannot judge a matter before we here it; we do ourselves a disservice by condemning and silencing people before we accurately assess what they are trying to say. 

Please consider the possibility that the real enemy in this matter is not religion itself nor all people who are religious, but the hypocrites who misuse and exploit both the religion and the sincere people of faith.  Most social justice that has been achieved in this world has been accomplished by sincere, progressive people of faith—of numerous faiths. 

So all of us who truly desire social justice, regardless of our spiritual beliefs or lack thereof, would be best enabled to achieve our objective if we honor and embrace the common ground we share on the most important issues regarding this struggle against the beliefs by which the plunderers of this world seem to justify their exploitation of the less-advantaged.

Obama, for his part, seems to be asking all of us to consider this.  Whether or not he is truly sincere may be up for debate and ongoing scrutiny, but I at least appreciate that he has put words to these concepts.  If all progressives were able to cooperate in seeking social justice, the exploiters could no longer maintain their grip on our society.  Division makes us all more vulnerable.  Cooperation empowers us.  That is how it has always been.  That is how it will always be. 

Please also note that this speech was delivered in June 2006.  Pandering?  Maybe.  But maybe not so much.  Certainly not like McCain. 

Obama’s words indicate that he understands and honors the seperation of church and state when it comes to administration and policy making.  His reasoning in that regard seems sound to me.

Again, you may doubt Obama’s sincerity, but I think he makes some points that are valuable considerations for the diverse body of us who truly want peace and justice in this world.

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By Lance, March 2, 2007 at 6:51 am Link to this comment
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Obama has evidently been smitten with the same bug that has infected many Dems of late…infected by consultants telling them that Republicans win because of their values rather than their policies.  This plays easily into the DLC delusion that Democratic candidates need to say what they think will get them elected, not what they will do if they get elected.  Since the DLC is still the effective power structure of the Democratic Party, even non-DLC’ers like Obama will fall prey to the strategem.

It won’t work. 

Why? 

Because Republican strategists will label the candidate as a Me-Too candidate, and dismiss him or her as a fraud…and probably rightly so.  T

The irony is, in my view, that someone who thinks that 90% of voters believe in a “higher power” also thinks he has to detail his religiosity to them.  As an atheist, I can tell you that religious people don’t really care what brand of religion you tote around with you…just as long as you have one.  A Baptist Christian may share very few religious beliefs with a Buddhist, but he will be much more at ease with a Buddhist than an atheist.  Why?  The Buddhist doesn’t believe in his god, and vice versa.  I believe in only one fewer than both of them.  But they reserve a special distrust and even loathing of me because I have no religion.  The only political question that most religious people really want answered is…“Got some?”

So why is not enough for Obama to say “I’m a deeply religious man, and for me religion is a personal and private matter.  Next question please?”

Perhaps because it isn’t that personal for him.  Maybe because he wants to see more religion infused into affairs of state.  If that’s the case, he’s a dangerous man.

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By tyler, March 1, 2007 at 11:49 pm Link to this comment
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I also agree with sns.  I am a christian born and raised (and I mean I went to church EVERY sunday growing up), but believe WHOLE-HEARTEDLY that religion has NO PLACE in politics.  Democracy is meant to serve the people, and in a day and age when multi-culturalism is an obvious reality (and a great thing, I believe), how can one religion try to exercise its belief system on everyone who isn’t of that faith.  When america invites the world to come to her for refuge and prosperity, there wasn’t supposed to be conditions.  There is right, and there is wrong in this world, and that basic ethic should transend sectoral religion.  The majority of christians in this country are being manipulated and fooled by corrupt leaders(eg. Ted Haskin) who are slaves to corrupt politicians(take your pick) and corporations(eg. Walmart, but take your pick), and have abandoned the very belief system that they were taught in church without even knowing it.  Christians really need to study the life of Christ and pay attention to how He led His life.  Did He hang out with the rich and the elite? NO! He hung out with the poor and the down-trodden, the same kind of people that today have lost their jobs due to out-sourcing which has become such a common practice among these so-called ‘american’ companies(again, Walmart).  I think if Jesus were to return tomorrow, a lot of people would be surprised at who he called ‘sinners’, and who He called ‘saints’.  Come on christians, wake up and realize that one of the greatest God-given gifts we have are our brains, lets try to use them.  Blind faith doesn’t work.  If you believe in a God, use the brain He gave you to think about whats going on around you! You’re being duped on a major level!  Unfortunately, Obama is already trying to buy those votes by lip-service, and I think its gonna bite him in the ass down the road.  Next!

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By Los Angeles Democrat, March 1, 2007 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment
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You can eat worms as part of your religious belief, as far as I care.  When you try to impose your beliefs on others is where the problems start.  What’s particularly offensive is this phony, Obama, who tries to insinuate his religiosity into the public discourse as the means to pander for votes.

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By John Lowell, March 1, 2007 at 9:36 pm Link to this comment
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Mention God around here and out come the haters. All that’s missing are the brass knuckles and the baseball bats. You folks would have made great brownshirts in 1930s Germany or street brawlers during the 1943 Detroit race riot. The toxic hostility you express here - all too characteristic of militant atheism in any age - are identical to those which fuel such phenonmena. Yet I would suspect that not one among you has even the slightest grasp on how thoroughly you are owned by these treasured hatreds. Spare me, this blog and the world both your kind of “tolerance” and your poison, please. We’ve had quite enough of the spirit of Lenin, thank you.

John Lowell

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By emh, March 1, 2007 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment
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I agree with C Quil.  I’m so tired of religiousity(sp), non-seperation of church and state, censoreship all over the ******* place.  Obama, for his pandering, shouldn’t count on my vote.

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By Jason, March 1, 2007 at 12:31 pm Link to this comment
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Obama said it himself in that speech: around 90% of people in the US believe in some sort of higher power.  Obama can choose to remain silent on the religion issue, but his opponents certainly won’t, as he also made clear in his speech.  If Obama wants to get elected, the issue has to be addressed and he has to appear to be religious.  This speech doesn’t mean that he’s actually religious or that he is actually going to use religion to guide his policy decisions.  All we can know for sure is that he endorsed religion, and that such an endorsement is a prerequisite for election to the highest political office in the US.  Beyond that, we are ignorant.

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By David Pabian, March 1, 2007 at 11:27 am Link to this comment
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Another christer-suckup bites the dust.  Anyone who believes in god is too ignorant for public office - too ignorant for anything, in fact.

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By C Quil, March 1, 2007 at 9:55 am Link to this comment
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I agree with the comment by sns (#55959). Keep your religion, if you must have one, to yourself. Your “beliefs” have no place in the running of a country. All the necessary safeguards for a society are built into the law. They don’t require ANY input from a belief system.

I won’t hold my breath, though, waiting for some presidential candidate to stand up and say that his or her beliefs, or lack of them, is his/her own business, that they will govern the country according to the law, and that those assurances should be enough for any rational being.

The country doesn’t need a messiah, just a law-abiding leader who isn’t out for stardom, personal gain, or absolute power over the rest of the world.

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By Ron, March 1, 2007 at 7:41 am Link to this comment
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I agree - let’s keep church and state seperate. I’m sick and tired of pious politicians running around talking about God and Jesus.  If Obama keeps it up he won’t get my vote.

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By kenoshaMarge, March 1, 2007 at 4:40 am Link to this comment
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If Obama is going after the christfacist vote he will lose a lot of the support of those who supported him just because he seemed different. If the main thing a candidate has to tell me is about his damn religion then I can not and will not support him/her. Stop pandering to these religious nuts.

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By Sybil Adams, March 1, 2007 at 4:15 am Link to this comment
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I do not want to hear about his Christian beliefs. I may vote for him, now may not, but I certainly wil not do grassroots works for the campaign. Pretty early for the godtalk to begin, Obama. This is a SECULAR society. Never mind YOUR Bible, what does the constitution say?

Disgusted.

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By Ichthus, February 28, 2007 at 11:38 pm Link to this comment
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sns, take it easy. So you think Barack is corrupt, eh. Well, who is not?
At least he’s not Hillary.

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By Roxy Hart, February 28, 2007 at 8:15 pm Link to this comment
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I agree, sns. Let’s open their heads and extract their religious cortex before they take the oath of office. There’s no reason why anyone should hold national office if he has a smidgen of religiosity in his cranium. Either they must be confirmed atheists or submit to neurosurgery before being sworn in. No church in the state and no religion in politicians. That’s the ticket, I’m sure. In any case, a lobectomy would do little harm in most cases. This approach has fascinating possibilities. We can also extract greed, pride, sloth, envy, gluttony, lust, and drunkeness. But then, who would want to run for office? Dang! Probably nobody but those rotten Christians. Foiled again.

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By Terradea, February 28, 2007 at 7:48 pm Link to this comment
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I simply cannot do it! I’ve had enough of Mr. Bush, and I cannot vote for anyone who shares his worst qualities. Therefore, I will not vote for anyone who thinks it’s appropriate to mesh religion and politics (Obama), nor will I vote for anyone who cannot admit mistakes (Clinton). Is there no one worthy of leading a democracy?

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By trantieungoc, February 28, 2007 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment
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Those who always keep talking about religion are the most immorals !

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By Quy Tran, February 28, 2007 at 6:15 pm Link to this comment
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If the nation was no longer existed could the religion be survived ?

We could live without religion but not without nation !

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By sns, February 28, 2007 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment
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here we go again spirituality and politics can enrich and complement each other…..STATE AND CHURCH ARE SEPARATE PLESAE BE WEARY OF THIS PHONY HE HAS NO PLANS NO IDEAS BUT THOSE OF HIS PAYMASTERS AND THEIR STRATEGY FOR HIM

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