There are still many of us out here who don’t yet believe the sky is falling.  They call us open-minded individuals.  On the far right you have the “anything for a buck industry lobby” and on the far left there are the beginnings of the new age “Eco-Nazi Party”.  Thank God neither has control of our government!  Fact is that Stossel just debunks the propaganda.

Are you people listening to what the scientists or experts are saying ? they do not say that global warming is a fact they say that availiable data indicates global warming and that mans part in it is not a fact just cicumstantial,should we act on this or not ? should we change our lives lose whole industries and jobs and lose our freedom to travel without permission of government on indications.AntiAmericans and Bush haters lambast the President for invading Iraq on the basis of (good) cicumstantial evidence(WMD,s)was he right to do so or not? ,if the President behaved like the advocates of global warming (suspicion)then Iran would be wiped off the face of the earth along with a few other dodgy countries (just to be sure)facts are facts,circumstantial is circumstantial

It is easy to understand why John got knocked on his ass years ago when trying to interview some wrestler.

John Stossel is just another spineless, brainless idiot. The soft headed talking head we have come to see in our media for a long time.

Youngish, repulsive and a total coward....

Thanks, Lefty. My whole day has improved greatly.
I’m sending it to everyone I know.

I am just a simple person but can someone explain something to me.  I never had any children, but every day I hear people from all walks of life saying how much they love their children, how they are the most precious things, how they would not hesitate to die for them.  Now if I had children and if there were just a 20% chance that the climate change thing is real with all the catastrophes forecast in the not so far away future, i.e. within the lifetime of my children, I would do anything in my power to try to prevent this from happening.  Maybe the likes of Stossel and Beck think that when the shit hits the fan their children will be able to hide in some fortress.  Personally, I would not count on it, especially in America where guns are everywhere.

I remeber when John Stossel was ‘roughed up’ by Dr. D David Schultz, a pro-wrestling star for suggesting to the star that wrestling was fake. He walked around in a neck brace for weeks, got a lot of press and of course, in the era of the Iran-Contra scandal, got the hard hitting story (so to speak).
It has become fashionable among the washed up to reinvent themselves as neo-con entertainers (see Dennis Miller, Geraldo, and Bill O’Reilly - whom I remember as host of ‘Current Affair’, a precurser to sensationalism in reporting). The danger in this is that if all opnions are validated, even the ridiculous, then the truth looses out. This is the ‘OJ’ effect - inundate the audience with enough contrary opinion, as weak as they may be, and the effect is confusion and apathy.
The absurdity is in the details - neither Beck nor Stossel address the threats facing coastal communities, devastating hurricanes and extreme weather.
We in the West do tend to behave like irresponsible spoilt children. A previous post by a 65 year old boasting of his Hummer proove this. Spoiled narcissitic Americans like those who support the anti-environmental programs are endemic to our way of life and beg the intrusion of government to control out of control lives. One can’t start a bonfire anywhere they like out of deference to laws and public safety. Likewise you cannot dump waste in a river, use pesticides around people or smoke at a gas station.
The terrible car sales have probably stoked the car industry into action and I’d expect a new bout of anti-global warming ‘entertainers’ to appear on Detroit money. My money’s on Diane Sawyer being the next to jump (since she was passed up by CBS news and is probably quite PO’d).

To Dr. Knowitall, PhD #55884

Doc, you misunderstood my post. I haven’t sold the Ford and bought the Prius. I was simply implying that would be futile in the big environmental picture. Come up with a way for my Ford (and everyone’s current vehicles) to be retrofitted with a more fuel efficient technology and I’ll think about it. Make it run on soybeans or corn syrup and you’ve got something. But then you’ll need nitrogen fertilizer to grow the soybeans and the corn and we’re back to the petroleum dependency deal again. Unless, you do the Native American organic deal and bury a dead fish in the hill of corn for fertilizer. But the various species of fishes are declining from over fishing and they’re all full of mercury so that puts the brakes on that idea. You can use manure but that has environmental impact with all of that methane and is just plain BULLSHIRT! (Gotcha!)

You see Doc? That damn genie won’t go back in the bottle. So my earlier sentiments to the blowhards on both sides of the issue remain foremost in my thoughts. I’m not proud of that but I’ll live with the repercussions. BTW, are you a real doctor or just play one on the internet? Even so, you’re a PhD not an MD. You see, I’ve got this heat rash on my backside and I don’t know if it’s from global warming or the internet, both of which were invented by Al Gore, so I am told, and I would pay good money to see Gore and Kennedy take on Stossel and Beck in a tag team match to the death but that won’t happen because they’re actually all in league and are playing both ends against the middle as I stated in a very broad way previously.

“Lighten up Francis”! (Bill Murray’s character in “Stripes”)

Forget the sensationalist journos and the populist pollies. Waste of bandwidth. Do some reading instead. For example:

http://www.lavoisier.com.au/
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=22003 a0d-37cc-4399-8bcc-39cd20bed2f6&k=0
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm

How this comment string turned to global warming is beyond me, and I don’t intend to waste time finding out.  But I would like to point out: global climate change is not a religion.  One does not “believe” in it.  A fact is not something to be settled by debate.  You may debate the scientific evidence, but if you do, I think you should at least understand how science operates.  If you can’t balance your checkbook or figure out how to program your TiVo, then you should leave your opinions about the matter at the door and accept what the scientists tell you.  And the vast majority accept it as a fact.  There is NO question about this anywhere in the world except the U.S.  Read foreign newspapers - it’s a real education on the blinkered ignorance we accept as our right here.

And please don’t change your motives for “disbelieving” in global climate change, depending on the evidence thrust at you.  If you say it’s not happening because the earth isn’t getting warming, do not then say that it isn’t happening because it’s “natural” for the temperature of the earth to fluctuate, and it’s been hotter in the past.  You can’t have it both ways.

Forget the name calling, it doesn’t matter.
Forget who said what and why.
Forget Climate and global warming and melting glaciers.

Forget all that for right now and just remember this ...

For every nay-sayer, at the end of the debate always waits ...
a big fat check.

http://www.democracynow.org/ Wednesday, February 28th, 2007: Listen/Watch

“Atmosphere of Pressure:” Union of Concerned Scientists Finds Widescale Political Interference in Global Warming Research

Same-ol-sameol ... follow the money!

Broiler #55675, People make a big deal out of the reliability of “science” and, in my 65 years, I’ve seen “science” screw up the lives of a lot of people.  History validates just about everything and before people get wigged out about issues, they need to wait a few decades, centuries or millennia to see what happens.  BTW, I bet that you and other Hybrid owners will burn as much gasoline with your hybrids as you did with your non-hybrids.  You’re absolutely right, CO2 emissions, world-wide will continue to increase at an alarming rate and, once over the threshold, it won’t matter how much is put into the atmosphere.  My science says that, eventually, the Earth will, one way or another, cleanse itself and, barring some cataclismic misfortune, start all over.  While I have time, I’m buying the biggest Hummer I can find----for safety reasons, of course.  See, I don’t just say, “f*** y**” “nicely,” I’m proactive.

Too many bible-thumpers already so, these tele-evangelists have to invent something to thump about. How else they gonna suck from the consumer’s advertisement tit and like other TV-Trumps keep their $1-10 mil paychecks coming? Can’t make it doing useful work anymore… they’re proof!

Stossel is an idiot of the highest quality; that is, only someone like the “Little General” Herr Bush, tops Stossel in being a moron.

Stossel’s show last year about how radiation poisioning is not bad and may even be good for your health was a real laugh riot.

Especially to all those “poor” kids in the Ukraine that are developing thyroid cancer at unprecedented rates, thank to the meltdown of their reactor at Cherynobyl

Both Beck and Stossel are Islamophobic fascits and imbeciles. Hey if you really wanna stick iot to these two “imbeciles”...by the way, I hope everyone knows that these guys are anything but and are extremely good at presenting themselves as average Joes looking out for the public’s interests. The exact opposite is the truth. They are hired to promote their right wing politics and attitudes because unfortunately there is a Market for that sorta stuff. Hey if you can say anything negitive or derogatory about Muslims (beck’s specialty) about 35% of the people will believe it. Anything! That’s based on the latest pools. So here is whrere you can go and really let them have a piece of your mind:

1-http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?69

2-http://abcnews.go.com/Reference/story?id=54216

Where’s the transcript of RFK saying that about Beck - I’d have to see it to believe it. Beck is a lying sack of doggie doo doo and abc has become FuX lite. Stossel/Beck - ha! And abc pays those jokers!

I think it was responsible of RFK Junior to call Glenn Beck a fascist, but Stossel is way out of line.  He is a lightweight journalist who seems to take himself too seriously.  He’s better off sticking to subjects he can handle, like swimming pool safety and ethics in the workplace.

Stossel is a pretty bright man and would probably be one of the first to sign on to the idea of global warming if the evidence were universally conclusive.  It isn’t.  He’s also an entertainer, part of the fourth estate which, I think, feeds people tons of useless, confusing, mis- and false information on which we are supposed to base daily decisions about our lives.  We get it from our government, politicians, from science, religion, schools, parents, everywhere.  I’m in the process of developing a BS filter.  Look for it in a few short months.  $14.95 guaranteed, or double your money back.  It’ll work on all the above, except I’m having trouble with the politician part.  I’ve got my top people working on as I write, so stay tuned.  P.S. I take Master Card and Visa.

Let me see, Robert Kennedy’s opinion stems from extensive research, complete with an abundance of of documentary evidence, exhaustive statistical studies, and testimony from hundreds of the world’s top scientists.  John Stossel’s opinion comes from either Rush Limbaugh or some pixie dwelling under his mustache.  I’d have to say that someone here is certainly an “imbecile”.

What could be more beautiful than watching sissy boy, John Stossel, getting bitch slapped by a professional wrestler for asserting that pro wrestling is a fraud?  What a panzy!

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHKj2JDvWxs

John Stossel seems to be taking his lead from Ann Coulter. Instead of debating the facts around the issue of global warming they engage in Ad hominem attack and equate Al Gore to elites who care nothing for the deprived masses. Like Ann Coulter ever cared!
We can reduce our carbon emmissions and generate economic activity...all the right wants is more extraction of oil and gas. Pedal to the metal!

Anyone who takes John Stossel seriously should be examined for psychoses or drug use.  He’s fine with the namby-pamby feel-good human interest stories, but obviously he’s channeling Geraldo Rivera.

The oil cos and Bushco are licking their chops to get the oil that will be easier to drill for after the ice is gone.  Global warming works to their advantage. We may all be dead but, the oil will be available.

Yeah, like he’s worried about poor people.

Years ago he concluded that greed was good.

He has no shame, no shame at all. Well, considering his business is prostitution, I suppose that comes in handy.

That a buffoon like Stossel would call anyone an imbecile is laughable. He has the credibility of an gnat while Robert Kennedy Jr. has the credibility of someone who knows what he’s talking about. Quite unlike Messrs. Stossel and Beck.

Gore and his family made their fortunes off of tobacco. Enough said for his concern for the earth and humanity. He’s not rolling up to the Oscars on a bicycle and if he is, he mounted it around the block. Beck might be a fascist for questioning global warming but Kennedy is from a family of “do as I say not as I doers”. Remember his environmentally conscious cousin that used his private plane as a submersible. Yeah, “you conserve fuel but I’m too busy and important to take mass transit to Martha’s Vineyard”. They don’t look too kindly to using blow on mass transit anyway. I don’t think he was bringing enough to share with his fellow commuters. RFK junior (how pompous is that?) has a lot of work to prove his apple has not fallen close to the rotten family tree. I’ve gotta start going by my initials, it’s so friggin’ classy! Stossel (is he still on television?) has his axe to grind and is making controversial statements so that the brainwashed general public tunes in to see another segment of train wreck television. Does anyone listen to the Glenn Beck radio show or watch 20/20? The point of this was?

The truth, and nobody profits from the truth, is somewhere in the middle of these blowhard opinions. Call them all imbeciles, but in reality they are all ingenious at attracting an audience and getting those brainwashed masses to support their positions.

My purchasing a Prius and demoting my Ford to a landfill will do little in the global warming equation while China builds coal-fired power plants. The genie is out of the bottle and the talking heads are the only ones that will benefit from trying (and I do mean trying) to shove it back in. And to the blowhards on both sides of the issue: “f*** you, you f***ing f***s”! And I mean that in a nice way.

Well, he’s an imbecile in many ways, and we have him on TV tonight on another subject. But, you know, I guess you can’t deny that terrorist exist. The issue is, is it a bad thing? It may be a good thing. And is it a catastrophe, where we have to wreck the lives of poor people and turn our freedom over to Dick Cheney and he’ll tell us to sacrifice our children and go shopping? And even if he does that, it’s not going to make any difference. So there are seven issues, and the only one where there’s clear truth is that, yes, the terrorist exist, always have, always will. And, most likely, we helped to create them. But to then say, “Dick Chenney is right,” what does that mean? What are we going to do?

John Stossel should be removed from 20/20 immediately.  HE is the imbecile and he is a poor journalist, as well. His segments are full of exaggerated, self-glorifying opinions and are boring.  His show on “Fear”, last week, made me afraid of journalists like him handing out information to the American public. It was so full of half truths and “truths” he seemed to improvise as he was speaking.
-PTB

First, it was stupid of RFK Junior to use the word fascist, but the attacks on the concept of global warming from the right go so far beyond that, it’s almost irrelevant.

Second, read Stossel’s reply carefully.  Is there any coherence in it at all?  I can’t find it. 

Humans have a poor record of looking inconvenient facts/truths in the face.  If we don’t change, this failure will rip our civilisation apart.  (I meant civilisation - I’m English)

Glenn Beck and John Stossel profit from selling hysterical reactionary opinions that exploit the fears and confused notions of Americans who reject logic and facts. They add nothing to the human equation.

Does anyone take this guy seriously either?, he always carries water for the Wall Street crowd.

Nice touch, that they now care for the poor.

This is all very simple. John Stossel proves every week that he is an intolerant, unsophisticated jackass every time he opens his mouth on 20/20.

John Stossel proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a bigger imbecile than even I thought before.

Have you ever asked yourself the question, ‘What says that the Earth’s temperature right now is the correct temperature?’ Why is it just assumed to be “correct” that Minneapolis is freezing cold 6 months out of the year?

I for one am glad to see Johns Tassel Standing up for himself. And almost a man for it he is too. It was always hard watching him getting P whipped by Babawa. Now he thinks he is standing up for himself and although that may be laughable, we need to give him credit for trying. You go Johns. Pinch that want to be neocon butt tight and get out there.

Let’s set, as a starting point, some airy vague Libertarian maundering about personal freedoms projected onto the distant future, all mixed up with dire suggestions, as we work to solve immediate problems.  Tell me, fellow Unqualified Suit, what is this country coming to when an unqualified anybody, perceived by his audience to have the authority to be in-the-know, cannot just shoot off his mouth with a flip anti-opinion about an immensely researched topic, without being brought to task over it by those who have studied it more?  If you would, please share some pejorative characterizations, loaded with extreme language and absolutes, with some unsubstantiated attacks and ad hominem pokes and put-downs, to help us all better understand. After all, this is important.

We need another wrestler to smack John Stossel around again.  He still hasn’t gotten any sense.

You are out of your mind. I travel much more than you and can tell you without qualification, the ice caps are melting.

I figured out a long time ago that Stossel is a “suit”, one of those walking, talking Establishment zombies who has no connection to anything except an ideology, a card-carrying member of the Matrix. So what he says doesn’t surprise me. Actually, global warming will be good for some beings, like scorpions, snakes, insects and alligators. Maybe one of them will invite Stossel out to dinner to thank him for his support.