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Posted on Nov 15, 2006
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During an appearance on Fox News Sunday, Howard Dean defended his chairmanship of the DNC against James Carville’s recent onslaught: “The truth is, we got six governors. We got nine additional legislative chambers. New Hampshire now has a Democratic House and Senate for the first time in a century.”
Not to mention, you know, the Congress.

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    By Lair Davis, November 19, 2006 at 8:49 am Link to this comment
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    Gee, Carville had to do SOMETHING! It’s his CAREER, his raison d’etre we’re talking about here. The man is finished - and, alas, he knows it! Of course, he must strike out bitterly (cynically). What else can he do?

    He’s more to be pitied than censured. But he also is to be ignored as the irrelevant has-been that he is. Can you hear that, you media geniuses out there who still do not recognize when someone is as “yesterday” as Carville?

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    By guitarsandmore, November 16, 2006 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment
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    While Hillary calls for an end to partisan bickering, Carville wants to turn the bickering up a notch and it’s not even between the Republicans and the Democrats.

    Certainly Dean has a few rough edges, but who doesn’t? I have never met a person yet that you couldn’t criticize for one thing or another.

    The point is there is no need for that now.  Democrats won and speaking for myself I can say I was inspired by some of the things Dean said.

    Dean is good at raising money and organizing and he should stay right where he is.

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    By Rodney Matthews, November 16, 2006 at 6:46 pm Link to this comment
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    James Carvelle needs to S.T.F.U !

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    By D., November 16, 2006 at 5:10 pm Link to this comment
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    Carville is a smarmy advertiser, but Dean is an designer of good product. 
    I am ashamed that Carville is considered a spokesperson for any Democrats.

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    By StuartH, November 16, 2006 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment
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    Unfortunately, the consultant culture has become an elite within the Democratic Party.  This is because they make money by convincing candidates that they are the only ones smart enough to know how to win elections.  When there is little or no grassroots activity, the experience that consultants have can definitely make the difference. 

    But they generally aren’t willing to accept that the grassroots really can be relied on.  So, Dean’s siding with the grassroots probably seems ill advised to Carville on that basis.

    Also, if the grassroots/netroots phenomenon continues to grow, the consultants could lose a monopoly on the “expertise” they derive paychecks from.

    The consultant culture and the mainstream media have developed a symbiotic relationship, so the whole control of information and message thing is about keeping the paradigm from changing.

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    By Guitarsandmore, November 16, 2006 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment
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    I have to agree with Lance here, congratulations are in order for Howard Dean and all who helped sweep the Democrats into power. 

    Why all the carping and complaining?  This is a VICTORY for the Democrats. Could it be that Carville is a wee bit jealous?

    Like they say, no good deed goes unpunished.

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    By Elmo, November 16, 2006 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment
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    Howard Dean is not afraid to say what he thinks without using weasel words.  That frightens people like Senator Clinton (whose latest campaign was marked by a “get tough on child molesters” program) and the rest of the DLC Repugnican Lite crowd.

    The So-Called-Liberal-Media—the ones that turned his pep rally yell into “The Scream”—will play up anything that anyone says which casts him in a less-than-favorable light.  Carville’s been sleeping with a Republican too long.

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    By nikto, November 16, 2006 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment
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    Carville represents the losing past;
    Dean represents the winning future.

    Carville is merely duplicitous corporate scum.

    Dean is a true representative of The People, and serves in good faith.

    The contrast could not be more stark.

    Carville should just be honest and join the GOP.

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    By Joshua, November 16, 2006 at 11:13 am Link to this comment
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    Carville is a Republicrat.  He’s not who the Dems should be looking to for direction.  Just look who he married.  Anybody who would choose to live with an awful Republican like his wife should not be deciding what is appropriate for the Democratic Party.

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    By Joe Bongiovanni, November 16, 2006 at 10:53 am Link to this comment
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    Hooray for Carville.

    His misplaced, demeaning attacks will surely come to be seen for what they are, and the economic populists who we sorely need in these days of globalization can better rise to the fore.
    The message I am getting from his DLC posture is, well, if these guys are this dogmatic and out of touch with reality, then maybe we’d better look elsewhere for leadership.
    I strongly disagree with many of Dean’s tactics - but I support both his 50 state strategy and his willingness to challenge to the big-D status quo.
    A move to the center is a move to the right.

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    By mark shertoff, November 16, 2006 at 9:56 am Link to this comment
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    Carville was a one trick pony. He did nothing for dem victory. He and Dick Morris should do stand up in the Catskills.

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    By Lance, November 16, 2006 at 5:22 am Link to this comment
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    It’s hard to tell who DLC members dislike more - Republicans or non-DLC Democrats.

    Carville is a smart guy for sure, but is he a clairvoyant?  Does he really have the amazing, mystical power to know precisely which elections would have been won by Democrats had more committee money been spent in those contests?  And had there not been a very publicized and successful effort, funded by the DNC under Dean’s guidance, to build up party organization across the country, is Carville such a brilliant seer as to know that not one of the successful Democrats might have lost for lack of the support the 50 state strategy provided?  And are we to believe, as Carville wants us to believe, that had some candidates other than those hand picked by Schumer and Emmanuel been allowed to represent the party that they all would have lost?  Did we really need to push Hackett out of the race in Ohio?  Did we really need a pro-lifer in the PA race to beat a fatally wounded Santorum? 

    Also, had Dean not started a program to revitalize the Democratic Party, putting it in a position to grow and compete in more and more Congressional districts, in 08 we would be following the same DLC plan that has failed us for a few decades - run to the right in a pathetically few “battleground” states and tossup CD’s, and hope that we can run the table.

    Carville, you’re bright, but we don’t need sunglasses when you enter the room.

    These guys aren’t geniuses, folks.  If nothing else you’d think they’d be smart enough to take this opportunity to publicly congratulate everyone who had a hand in this - Schumer, Emmanuel, Dean, the party organization and most of all, the voters. 

    But then again, this is the DLC we’re talking about.

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    By Beamis, November 15, 2006 at 9:19 pm Link to this comment
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    Carville just wants to return to the old satus quo days of inside the Beltway Democratic power brokering and disdains Dean’s successful courting of local and state party bosses. Judging by the way things turned out for the party Carville just sounds like sour grapes. Actually he always sounds that way.

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