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FOX News Correspondent Gets Waterboarded

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Posted on Nov 6, 2006
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The reporter voluntarily submitted to the interrogation technique to report on its effects.

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By Youffraita, November 10, 2006 at 3:44 pm Link to this comment
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The thing is, he was ready to talk—to say ANYTHING.  Which is why testimony taken under torture is notoriously unreliable: quite apart from the immorality of using torture in the first place, it results in “facts” that probably are not, as the victims tell the interrogators what they want to hear, not what is true.

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By Spinoza, November 9, 2006 at 6:44 pm Link to this comment
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The American slogan when I was a kid in the 50’s was the only good commie is a dead commie.  That was wrong. The only good right winger is a dead right winger.

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By bill Elavil, November 9, 2006 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment
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This is why Oh Really’s new book is sub titled “Murdoch Warrior’s” and the SP label stands for “Spineless Pricks” and refers to himself and the Fascist News Network who pays him.
man the barricades!

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By Gijsbert Brandeveld, November 9, 2006 at 12:42 pm Link to this comment
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Fox is great! What a fun introduction to a tricky subject. If only the Nazis had been so honest, we wouldn’t have any problem with the Holocaust. Recommended family viewing!

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By Carl, November 9, 2006 at 9:11 am Link to this comment
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Great comments~ Sums it up exactly…
Fox is a bunch of morons…

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By Sean Maurice Hunt, November 9, 2006 at 8:35 am Link to this comment
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Waterboarding…try it, its fun! Just like surfing, catch the wave, narly dude…Fox your stoked…

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By Rosemary; Molloy, November 9, 2006 at 4:16 am Link to this comment
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What unspeakable filth!  If the first phase “isn’t too bad,” and the whole procedure a sensible way to treat detainees, why doesn’t Fox arrange to film an actual waterboarding activity and run it on the air?  The torturers can still be hooded, so no problem there, and think how much more interesting it would be to see the desparate stuggles of the guest of honor, and hear his gasps and cries…

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By Scott, November 7, 2006 at 3:41 pm Link to this comment
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A new low.

Have you ever seen anything more pathetic?  This is reckless, fascist rhetoric in its most destructive form.  Fox has nearly reached Nazi levels of manipulation.  At this nadir, water-boarding all Fox propagandists is unlikely to halt the flow of idiocy, perhaps making things worse, if that’s even possible.  It takes all of my humanity to avoid sinking into the pit and wishing even harsher treatment for Fox management and ownership.

Please vote today!

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By Socrates, November 7, 2006 at 11:55 am Link to this comment
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Yes, this doesn’t capture the psychology (or harshness) of the actual situation…this “reporter” knows they won’t let him drown. Between each episode they’re like “hey steve, you alright dude?”

It is quite another thing for a man captured in the mid-east after being roughed up, flown to a secret location, and sitting there full of images of US mistreatment of prisoners in his head (e.g., Abu Ghraib, the numerous tortured-to-death episodes, and probably much worse stories told through the grapevine, whether fabricated or real).

Then think about the following mind game (a common technique): two guys question the prisoner roughly, though not going too far when another guy is standing in the room who looks and seems to be in charge (the good cop). The two guys show the prisoner, quite obviously, that they are irked by the restraint they must show because their “commander” is watching. Then all of them leave. Some time later, the two guys come back, making it obvious that they are checking to see if the commander is not around, playing sneaky (this can all be done with non-verbal communication). Then they act as if the good cop is not around, and they hurry into the room and drag the prisoner to be water-boarded.

The thing is, in this situation the prisoner really doesn’t know- and has good reasons to doubt- that these two guys playing sadists will pull off the cellophane or canvas or whatever instead of just letting him drown.

That’s another thing entirely. Chalk another one up for “fair-and-balanced” reporting from Fox.

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By Crystal, November 7, 2006 at 11:38 am Link to this comment
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It seemed like a noble experiment at first… I actually had to send it to my friend and say I was proud of Fox….. then I saw the end of it… crap. Fox… back to the (water) drawing board. I can now, again say I’m never been proud of Fox, except just for a moment. Fair and balanced my #*&.

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By Danna Parker, November 7, 2006 at 9:00 am Link to this comment
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So water boarding apparently has Fox’s stamp of approval?  A kind of “fun” way to torture.  Not too bad, at least.  What’s next?  Do we get to see Sadaam’s hanging live?

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By RGW, November 7, 2006 at 3:59 am Link to this comment
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Why is it necessary for us, and I mean US, to attempt to verify this practice is as horrible as it is, since we all are complicit in allowing it to continue? As the selfsame “media” seeks to regularly discredit the complaints of those who have actually been tortured.

A few short decades ago there would have been fire in the streets, people tossing tear gas canisters back at the “pigs” for even the hint of this kind of imperialistic insanity. I guess people had a conscience then, people had a cause, they would take one on the chin for their brother. I think they called it having courage of your convictions.

Now all we get is teevee and Inner-net participation and voyeuristic portrayals of atrocities WE commit (and not even “real” footage) by skinless phranks and talking heads on the Rupert Murdock payroll.

So we’re trying to exonerate ourselves to prove we’re not failed citizens for letting this happen? See, he didn’t die. He didn’t cry. He didn’t soil himself. He didn’t loose his self respect. He did loose his autonomy. He wasn’t humiliated… No big, right?

If this FOX “News” turd wanted to really get the water boarding experience, he should have let them beat the piss out of him first…

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By greenback, November 7, 2006 at 2:16 am Link to this comment
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They first should have had the correspondant sleeping at home with his wife and family all tucked away soundly. Then his front door should have been kicked open with a dozen men dressed in black stormtrooper gear aiming automic weapons at everyone as they slam a syringe into his neck and then toss him in a duffell bag. When he wakes up somewhere in Egypt or Pakistan or wherever, have him strapped to a board and simply keep him dunked under water in metal tub or a toilet. The FOX report referred to the entire process as “a controlled experiment” (just so happens it is the exact phrase the fascist of WWII used, the nazis. The FOX report left us to believe that the whole affair is simply a dip in the pool, which is anything but what is practiced in the gulags around the world; safe and sound, and maybe a little bit fun and adventurous, and ultimately important. The FOX correspondant also said it took him less than a minute to tell his torturers anything they wanted to hear - anything they wanted to hear. He forgot to mention how that gravely pollutes the intelligence pool, which drains resources incredibly and places our soldiers at more risk. The FOX report also inferred that it was important work these masked men were doing, perhaps something noble about them and the work they do. They wouldn’t have to wear a mask if what they were doing was even close to be noble, and protecting their identity is only neccasary if they were working in an undercover capacity, which they are not. They are hired and trained specifically for the task of torture. And just a note, think of the type who is drawn to this type of work.

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By Montie Shields USAF RET, November 7, 2006 at 1:58 am Link to this comment
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Tony Snow was vigerously defending Cheney on
that subject. Has anyone challenged him to
demonstrate how NON torturous this procedure
is. life32

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By Bukko in Australia, November 6, 2006 at 10:39 pm Link to this comment
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What revolting garbage! “As far as torture goes, this seems pretty efficient way to get somebody to talk…”

Why, he felt fine just a few minutes later! Of course, he had the luxury of knowing it was all a bit of entertainment, that he was not at the utter mercy of his captors. He hadn’t been kept naked in a freezing cold room before being dunked in freezing cold water. He hadn’t gotten his head slammed into a concrete wall with his hands cuffed behind his back. He wasn’t worried that the sadists who kept him captive might accidentally kill him.

Oh yes, so there’s no ripped flesh, broken bones and blood splatters. Is that the new U.S. standard? Efficiency, not morality? Just you wait, Americans—this is going to become the new standard police practice. First for people suspected of child molesting, then drug dealers, then murder suspects, then people who are beaten unconscious and dragged in at anti-government rallies…

I didn’t hear anything about the IMMORALITY of TORTURING SOMEONE on this bit. My God, if someone had told me six years ago that there would be news segments on U.S. televison demonstrating techniques about how AMERICA TORTURES PEOPLE, and how it’s not such a bad thing, I would have thought they were nuts.

By the way, I suggest we stop calling this “water-boarding.” That sounds so benign, like surfing. What this practice actually is is smothering someone with a plastic bag and water. It’s drowning someone on dry land. But that’s too cumbersome for a good soundbite. Call it what it is—- SMOTHER-BAGGING!

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By Kim, November 6, 2006 at 9:58 pm Link to this comment
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Good god, is this guy is advocating torture? He thinks he knows what the victims endure even though they let him up right away as soon as he showed any distress.  In a real situation, the victim wouldn’t be so lucky, and there are real health risks including cardiac arrest from the absolute panic such an act could induce.  Plus a person in this sitation will lie if they have to to make it stop, so information is what the victim thinks the interrogator wants to hear and not necessarily the truth.  What have we become?  Are we to become as bad or worse than those we call monsters?

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By gnocchi, November 6, 2006 at 8:55 pm Link to this comment
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Excellent!  Are Hannity and O’Reilly next?

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By Speck, November 6, 2006 at 8:08 pm Link to this comment
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I was water-boarded as part of SERE training in the military… It was much more intensive than what the FOX reporter is experiencing. My arms and legs were strapped down, a heavy burlap fabric was held over my mouth and nose, and it wasn’t a watering pot they were using to gently pour water on me; it was a fire hose. They also did it until I lost consciousness…. Repeatedly.

FOX appears to be softening up the procedure considerably.

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By John Turnbull, November 6, 2006 at 8:04 pm Link to this comment
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Wonderful! Now the official propaganda arm of the White House is selling the beauty and gentility of torture. I remind you, Japanese commanders were executed at the end of WWII for water boarding. They did not splash water up your nose and then pat you on the back to ask if you have any information to share. my guess is - niether are our paid contractors. Please, torture him again and his dog Gretchan too.

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By Tekspeek, November 6, 2006 at 7:55 pm Link to this comment
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Go For It!!! - Let all (Fox) correspondents undergo a waterboarding episode - just don’t ‘control it’.  Simulate a kidnapping, waterboard them then after they confess, (they have to be guilty of something), hold them in Gitmo for a couple years….

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