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John Kerry on Lieberman-Cheney Love Connection

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Posted on Aug 21, 2006
John Kerry
From Crooks and Liars

John Kerry went on “This Week” Sunday to blast Dick Cheney and Joe Lieberman’s stance on the war.  Referring to primary voters, Kerry said: “they’re not Dean Democrats, they’re not Kerry Democrats, they’re not Lamont Democrats—they’re Democrats.”


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John Kerry:

I’m concerned that he is making a Republican case, and he is uttering almost the same words as Vice President Cheney and I think it’s inappropriate. 

Uh, look, let’s be very very clear about this: Ned Lamont has been courageous and he has stood up and the voters of Connecticut—they’re not Dean Democrats, they’re not Kerry Democrats, they’re not Lamont Democrats—they’re Democrats.  They’re Chris Dodd Democrats, they’re Democrats who for years supported Joe Lieberman. 

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And the fact is Joe Lieberman is out of step with the people of Connecticut.  I believe that he’s just dead wrong with respect to the war.  And to adopt the rhetoric of Dick Cheney who has been wrong about almost everything he has said about Iraq shows you just exactly why he got in trouble with the Democrats there.

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By stonehinge, August 23, 2006 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment
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Mike, it’s usually best to examine the facts.

The Democrats view the war as just one in a series of political issues to be played based entirely upon what seems best in relation to domestic political power.

Actually, this is not the case at all.  The Democratic party has been infected for quite some time with what we are now calling the Bloomberg Democrats.  These are the wealthy neo-fascist elements that kept Joe Liebermann in power and who intend to re-elect Hillary Clinton in spite of an overwhelming majority of Democrats who strongly oppose US policies in Iraq.  These neo-fascist financiers are no different than the ones who promote the war-mongering forces of the Republican party.  The defeat of Liebermann is an awesome encouragement to those of us who seek to overthrow this pernicious force.

Right now, the balance of Democratic opinion seems to be that a defeat in Iraq will work best for them in 2006.

You should have just kept your head down and been satisfied with a charge of drug abuse.  Anybody with a quarter-wit of intelligence already recognizes that we lost the War on Terror the moment we invaded Iraq.  There is nothing left to win in Iraq except to further compromise American security.  Is that what you had in mind?  I think the best way to express the majority of opinion in the Democratic party is that it is time to recognize the truth and change course recognizing that Iraq never was a suitable environment for “democratization.” Of course, that never was our objective anyway. 

Our war, like Israel’s war, is to stop allowing states within stats that exist only to export terror.

Geez, when did we morph the objective like this?  There was no state-within-a-state in Iraq. Hussein had successfully maintained control of this region for over 30 years. LMAO!!!  And furthermore, when exactly did Hezballah export terror?  ROFTLMAO. 

As I said, the drugs must be really good for you.    But why anyone would choose to live in such a state, perhaps thrice-removed from reality, is a question that boggles my imagination.  Yet, there are so many live this way, despite the prevalence of sites such as this.  What is it with you guys?

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By Mary, August 22, 2006 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment
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How sad to see yet another mind closed off to truth and facts, MJW.  Evidently, you have nothing of substance to offer here.

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By MJW, August 22, 2006 at 3:33 pm Link to this comment
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Mary
Listen to Todd.

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By Mike Wilkinson, August 22, 2006 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment
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Stonehinge:
Maybe you should return to Stonehenge where the only significant event in the world was the astrological event of that day. The Democrats view the war as just one in a series of political issues to be played based entirely upon what seems best in relation to domestic political power. If winning the war will help Democrats, then they’ll be in favor of winning. If losing helps, then they are in favor of US defeat. Right now, the balance of Democratic opinion seems to be that a defeat in Iraq will work best for them in 2006. But the war is something of fundamental importance for America’s future. Our war, like Israel’s war, is to stop allowing states within stats that exist only to export terror. This is what Lieberman understands and Kerry does not. 

The Democrats hit the one nerve, which all citizens are affected. Politics aside Lieberman will not let our country be defeated in the War on Terrorism. The Democrats have set the terms of the 2006 debate and the question will be: which Party do you trust on national security
Answer: GOP & Independent Lieberman

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By Mary, August 22, 2006 at 1:09 pm Link to this comment
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Uh, Todd, try to refrain from posting when you have nothing to contribute other than name-calling.  The one it reflects poorly on is you.

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By Todd, August 22, 2006 at 9:51 am Link to this comment
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Mary, please listen carefully.  You are nuts.  Rinse, lather, repeat.

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By Mary, August 22, 2006 at 7:58 am Link to this comment
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Mike,

Listen to me please.  I mean REALLY listen to my words here.  1.  Believe your own eyes and ears.  2. Research and seek Truth.  3. Trust your own judgement.  4. Form your own conclusions. 5. Continue to repeat the first 4 until you practice them enough so they become second nature. 

It’s lies, Mike.  Do you understand this?  It’s lies.  All of it.  And that is the fundamental truth of the matter.

You must examine always both sides of an issue because if you don’t, you are instantly irrelevent and ill-informed.

Now, please go back and so some research.  And I’d recommend you begin with 9/11, when “everything” changed.  It did.  But not the way you think based on the opinions of yours I’ve read.  I don’t have a lot of time on my heads because I’m working 24/7 for love of my country and as one fellow AMERICAN to another, listen to me.  It is all lies.

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By Richard, August 22, 2006 at 7:57 am Link to this comment
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It’s becoming too obviuous isn’t it?  Lieberman, like the other Jewish ligislators, are for Israel first and to hell with country or party lines!

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By Todd, August 22, 2006 at 7:23 am Link to this comment
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Lieberman is a neo-con???  Are you joking?  His score from the American Conservative Union, which rates senators and congressman on their votes for or against conservative issues was ZERO!  How the hell does someone like that get characterized as a neo-con?

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By stonehinge, August 21, 2006 at 10:53 pm Link to this comment
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To Mike Wilkinson:

What kind of drugs do you use?  They must be pretty good considering that you have survived in a state of being twice removed from reality.

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By Mark Kienan, August 21, 2006 at 5:54 pm Link to this comment
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Lieberman is a neocon. Lieberman thought invading and dismantling Iraq would benefit Israel. He supported the lies of WMD and Iraq and 9/11. He along with the rest of the current administration should stand trial for their lies. He has the blood of our fallen and injured soldiers on his hands. He has the blood of the thousands of Iraqis who have lost their lives in the war. Lieberman along with most of the spineless people in our congress are mouthpieces for the Military industry, Oil industry, and AIPAC money. They all should be kicked out on their Ass.

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By Mother of US Special Forces Soldier, August 21, 2006 at 5:10 pm Link to this comment
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TO -  #19380 by Todd on 8/21 at 11:08 am


You stated and I quote

” Kerry has no idea what he’s thinking or believing in at any particular moment. “

I strongly disagree w/ you.

Have YOU ever followed his words?  He has the great ability to LISTEN to the people. And to review the “changing situations”.

  Unlike other policy constructors who are married to their BAD DECISIONS that they have made (while holding the US population as hostages).

Kerry had very high standards and it shows!

LOGIC prevails - deductive and inductive reasoning!

Sincerely,
Mother of US Special Forces Soldier
d-green
green
rangers
seals

He isn’t my rep. but I wish he was!!!!!!

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By m.whitehead, August 21, 2006 at 2:43 pm Link to this comment
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Joe Lieberman got arrogant after he lost the VP slot; he is out for Joe Lieberman now, not the Democratic Party nor the State of Connecticut; he is out of ideas, and he is all over the place. Yes, we DO remember that he endorsed the war in Iraq, and now must live with it. Running as an Independent is just being a desperate, spoiled sport. Lamont is getting a lot more support than Lieberman could imagine would happen. Bring on the elections 2006!

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By Mike Wilkinson, August 21, 2006 at 2:31 pm Link to this comment
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Ned & John have their heads buried in the sand. The American people only have to look at last weeks British Airline attempts to know that if this fight is not taken to the radicals of the Middle East, it will be brought to our doorstep. Lieberman has a proven record of not only working for the people of Connecticut, but also the American people. It appears that a few in the Democratic Party will abandon a trusted party favorite for someone who will walk & talk the Democratic line regardless of its repercussions to our nation.

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By Mary, August 21, 2006 at 12:01 pm Link to this comment
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I think it’s only a matter of time before we see Lieberman self-destruct.  There’s far too much ego for a little man to carry around in his head much longer.

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By Todd, August 21, 2006 at 11:08 am Link to this comment
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I love the way that Kerry claims the moniker of “Kerry Democrats”.  What an egomaniac.  At least Joe Leiberman believes what he says, like it or not.  Kerry has no idea what he’s thinking or believing in at any particular moment.

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By Dean Yorgey, August 21, 2006 at 8:23 am Link to this comment
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Its great that Lieberman will not be representing the democratic party in Congress. Now if there were a way to keep him off the Independent ticket?

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