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NYT’s John Burns on Civil War In Iraq

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Posted on Mar 15, 2006
John Burns

The N.Y. Times’ Baghdad bureau chief tells Bill Maher it appears “improbable” that the U.S. effort in Iraq will reach “a satisfactory conclusion.”


Crooks and Liars:

“The question is just the scale of it.” So said John F. Burns, Bureau Chief of The New York Times, on Bill Maher’s live Friday night HBO program.

E&P:  “...he now feels that the failure of the American effort in Iraq ‘now seems likely.’ The chances that it will reach ‘a satisfactory conclusion’ appears ‘improbable.’ ”

“Asked if a civil war was developing there, Burns said, ‘It has been for some time,’ adding that it’s just a matter of ‘scale.’ He said the current U.S. leaders there—military and diplomatic—were doing their best but sectarian differences may doom the enterprise…. Burns observed that he had been on the ground for 24 hours and, of all the people he had interacted with so far, ‘no one supports this war.’ ”

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By Barrie Johnson, March 16, 2006 at 8:40 am Link to this comment
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the current occupant listens to no one but himself. we must increase our efforts to make him the prior occupant. that is difficult with congress being nothing but a rubberstamp.

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By commander che, March 16, 2006 at 1:38 am Link to this comment
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mr burns faced up to the reality that the new york times failed in it’s coverage in the lead up to the war in an editorial he penned for the times eighteen months ago.  that put him in the unique position of being one of the few western journalists to admit that by failing in the mission to give no quarter in the search of truth, the nyt actually helped bush and blair lie the world into war. 
american journalism has bottomed out with the iraq war. the behaviour of many of our brave journalists leading up to the war (and through the first year of occupation) would be laughable if the results had not been so deadly.  and now, they stand before us like a pack of inspector rannou’s in casablanca…all shocked, shocked to learn the government’s case for war was a fraud.  they are pathetic in their portrayal of themselves as victims.  the fact is, much of the american media has blood on it’s hands.
mr burns deserves much respect for his stand.

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By Jonathan, March 15, 2006 at 11:16 am Link to this comment
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You hsve cool hair

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By Hilding Lindquist, March 15, 2006 at 8:48 am Link to this comment
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Well, Burns thinks we now have the best and the brightest in Iraq, fighting the war for us. Other than that worn caveat, he’s not optimistic of Bush’s chances of guiding the outcome.

It’s just remarkable to me that these so-called brilliant strategists (our generals in the field) have yet to call Bush on Bush’s statements denying the need for more troops. Obviously the Shinseki Syndrone is NOT contagious amongst our “gifted” leaders. Seems like the McNamara Syndrone still is virulent, though. I guess putting off the damage to one’s career until the pension is secure is the key.

What happened to the spirit of the Americans who signed our Declaration of Independence?: “And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”

I hope the Bush Administration listens to Murtha.

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