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Posted on Oct 27, 2006
Michael J. Fox
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Michael J. Fox defends his advocacy against Rush Limbaugh’s ignoble attack: “Because the thing about ... being symptomatic is that it’s not comfortable. No one wants to be symptomatic; it’s like being hit with a hammer.”

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    His body visibly wracked by tremors, Fox appears in a political ad touting Missouri Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill’s stance in favor of embryonic stem cell research. That prompted Limbaugh to speculate that Fox was “either off his medication or acting.”

      Fox told Couric, “At this point now, if I didn’t take medication I wouldn’t be able to speak.”

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      He said he appeared in the ad only to advance his cause, and that “disease is a non-partisan problem that requires a bipartisan solution.”

      “I don’t really care about politics,” Fox added. “We want to appeal to voters to elect the people that are going to give us a margin, so we can’t be vetoed again.”

      The irony is that I was too medicated. I was dyskinesic,” Fox told Couric. “Because the thing about ... being symptomatic is that it’s not comfortable. No one wants to be symptomatic; it’s like being hit with a hammer.”


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    By John, October 30, 2006 at 6:39 am Link to this comment
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    Dave again you Democrats CANNOT offer a solution without first mentioning or blaming BUSH.  I want to know what candidates are going to do to fix problems not who they are going to blame.

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    By David Lange, October 29, 2006 at 7:05 pm Link to this comment
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    John:

    The Dems did, back in 1992 when they elected Bill Clinton.

    Unfortunately, Clinton had to deal with a Republican majority in both the House and Senate, who made any foible of his, a major offense, grounds forimpeachment.

    Poiltics in America has been this way for 220+ years.  Change begins with one vote…

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    By MARIAM RUSSELL, October 28, 2006 at 4:15 pm Link to this comment
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    Yhanks, Bluegirl, you are a good girl. Good blog, I will visit from time to time.

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    By John, October 28, 2006 at 10:10 am Link to this comment
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    JONESY

    “What bothers me most about Rush Limbaugh is that he still has an audience despite proving himself to be a rascist and a moron.  Could it be that rascists and morons listen to Rush Limbaugh? “

    this is also disgusting. You either have just called millions of people racists and morons OR you just asked a questions on something you heard and didn’t verify.  If you indeed saw the video and heard the audio of Rush then you can include yourself in the millions of “racists and morons” who listen to Rush.  You can’t have it both ways.
    I am so sick of Republicans blaming Democracts and Democracts blaming Republicans while BOTH parties do nothing to fix our problems as a country.  The Dems blame every problem on Bush and offer no solutions BUT if they take over Congress and the White House they also will spend 4 years telling the American public how the Republicans created a mess AGAIN without doing anything to solve the problem.  If the Dems take over Congress and the White House…fix the damn problems instead of offering 4 years of excuses that will always start with “Well under President Bush this problem started…...FIX THE FRIGGING COUNTRY!

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    By Blue Girl, Red State, October 28, 2006 at 2:45 am Link to this comment
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    Hi.  I’m relatively new here, I’ve only commented I think twice before, but this is an issue I have more than an opinion about.  I’m a Biochemist by training. 

    I posted an essay that attempts to explain in plain English what embryonic stem cell researgh is, what it isn’t, and the ramifications of the Missouri Amendment 2 that is on the ballot and started this whole flap.  If anyone is interested, here is the link to get you there.

    Thanks.

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    By jon, October 27, 2006 at 10:48 pm Link to this comment
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    In support of Rush—a place I usually can’t get far enough away from—whenever someone enters the political fray, they become fair game.

    Unfortunately what now passes for “fair game”—and what is Rush’s stock in trade—is the destruction of people and ideas by the use of half truths and other forms of distortion, functionally lying in other words.

    Sadly this lying has become institutionalized throughout our culture as just another weapon to use to advance our personal, political, and corporate advantage.

    You just know in your gut that such behavior in the end is not viable, and our disinformation around global warming may be a proof of that concept more horrible than any we could have imagined.

    Jon

    StudentsForTheEarth.org

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    By Montie L. Shields USAF RET., October 27, 2006 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment
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    Why is George W. Bush so protective of frozen
    embro’s (Stem Calls) That has about as much
    chance of becoming a living breathing person,
    as I do of becoming a Cathlic Pope (I’m Afro-
    American). Meanwhile he is getting Living
    breathing American Service Men and Women kill-
    ed daily. I believe all in the name of getting
    revenge on Saddam Hussein for putting a hit on
    his Daddy , as he said in his speech in Houston,
    while campaigning for President.

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    By mark shertoff, October 27, 2006 at 7:34 pm Link to this comment
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    Will the supporters of the Limbaugh attack on the disabled, Lauer and Couric, receive a free pass? I hope not; they were equally disgusting in their suggestions.

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    By Lorna K, October 27, 2006 at 5:23 pm Link to this comment
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    Like Michael J.Fox, I also have Parkinson’s Disease.  When I watched Rush Limbaugh’s commentary, it made my blood boil.  Rush is a pathetic, disgusting excuse for a human being.  He is lower than pond scum.  However, I have no doubt that his comments and attitude would change 180 degrees if he woke up one day and found that he had become a victim of this dreaded, incurable disease.  His vicious attack on Michael J. Fox was akin to pushing a crippled person down a flight of stairs and then spitting in his face.  Rush is a pompous, vile person without tact or decency.  He should be fired immediately and denied gainful employment ANYWHERE!

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    By dave, October 27, 2006 at 4:29 pm Link to this comment
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    Did Fox not do a political ad for Arlen Specter REPUBLICAN of Pa during his re-election campaign because Mr. Specter supported stem cell research?  Would that not be classified as supporting the issue, not the polical partisan?  Perhaps David should be sure of his facts before accusing Mr. Fox.
    Mr. Fox was very classy in my opinion asking all sides to look at the issue and respect eachother’s opinions.  If Rush had taken issue with the opinion and not attacked the man, there would be no discussion, however Rush and his ilk (Coulter, O’reilly, etc.) can’t argue the point, but can only attack the person.  And worse yet, mocking the person.  Coulter used the same tactics with the Jersey girls.  MJF attacked no one, only stated his opinion and supported a politician he agreed with.  Much more class than Rush and the rest.

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    By Guitarsandmore, October 27, 2006 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment
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    Michael J. Fox has been doing ads for a long now and any insinuation that this is somehow just about torpedo politics for a Nov 7th election is very wrong.  Michael has legitimate concerns and hopes for a cure.

    The poor guy is sick and how could anyone be so low as to pick on a guy that is dieing of an incurable disease?

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    By David Lange, October 27, 2006 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment
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    Rush Limbaugh is a modern-day Joseph McCarthy in that he destroys other peoples lives and reputations with his lies.  The sad fact is if McCarthy had had tried his act today with widespread media coverage, millions would have believed him too.

    Limbaugh has the right to say what he wants, but that doesn’t make what he says right - a golden rule ignorant people need to understand before this country we all love is destroyed by his brand of hatred.

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    By Quy Tran, October 27, 2006 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment
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    Don’t blame on Rush. He didn’t say a word. Only his medications, prescribed by his doctor, talks. Poor guy !

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    By mark shertoff, October 27, 2006 at 12:23 pm Link to this comment
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    Rush Limbaugh is a disgusting pig. Attacking people on race or infirmity, is not decent and fair. It is a disgrace. Matt Lauer’s suggestion that many agree with this attack is equally disgusting.

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    By Jonesy, October 27, 2006 at 11:53 am Link to this comment
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    What bothers me most about Rush Limbaugh is that he still has an audience despite proving himself to be a rascist and a moron.  Could it be that rascists and morons listen to Rush Limbaugh?

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    By MARIAM RUSSELL, October 27, 2006 at 11:35 am Link to this comment
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    Bob…..If I am not mistaken, Mr. Fox has done ads for reps and dems, WHO SUPPORT emb stem sell research.
    1- LIMBAUGH SORT OF APOLOGIZED ON THE SAME BROADCAST AFTER BEING INFORMED THAT THIS IS THE EFFECT OF THE DISEASE, THIS IS THE WAY MJF REALLY IS AS HE HAS A PARTICULARLY NASTY FORM OF PARKINSONS.
    2-GOP WANTS TO STOP FUNDING OF ECR. OR ANY EXPANSION OF ECR..WHICH WILL MEAN NO RESEARCH AT ALL AS ALMOST ALL OF THE RESEARCH AT THIS LEVEL IS DONE IN GOVERNMENT FUNDED UNIVERSITY LABS, NOT BY PRIVATE INDUSTRY…THEY PRIVATIZE IT WHEN IT IS TIME TO MAKE MONEY ON IT, UNTIL THAT TIME IT´S YOUR AND MY NICKEL…...All transplanted tissues run a great risk of being rejected if they are not a close enough match to the patient—adult, cord blood, and ES-derived cells included. That is why transplant donors are most often from the patient’s own family and also why transplant recipients take drugs to suppress their immune system. However, ES-derived cells may one day have an advantage. Scientists think that they may be able to make customized ES cells from the patient’s own DNA that will be an exact genetic match and thus, not be rejected. The process to do this is called “nuclear transfer” and is a controversial area of research as some fear that it will lead to reproductive cloning of people. I’ve never met a scientist that wanted to clone people, but I have met many that want to clone individual cells to make tissues that will not be rejected in a transplant.
    3- NO BREAK THRU…..Scientists have been able to do experiments with human embryonic stem cells (hESC) only since 1998, when a group led by Dr. James Thompson at the University of Wisconsin developed a technique to isolate and grow the cells. Moreover, Federal funds to support hESC research have been available since only August 9, 2001. RESEARCH IN IT´S INFANCY USUALLY DOES NOT HAVE A STRING OF CURES.
    4-EXPLAINED IN 2 I BELIEVE.
    5-LIMBAUGH WAS DOING HIS USUAL THROW SHIT AGAINST THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS.

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    By lagaresh, October 27, 2006 at 11:27 am Link to this comment
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    Rush’s comments lacks that so called “compassion” that the President and the GOP talks all the time. Bravo for Michael J. Fox for talking about the issue.  This Administration has done absolutely nothing that I would call pro-life. Is killing people in an unprovoked war pro-life? What about the 655,000 civilians killed in Iraq, is that pro-life? We need new leaders in the Congress that are going to work on the peoples agenda- not the military industrial complex and the oil companies and such.

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    By David, October 27, 2006 at 10:45 am Link to this comment
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    When you pick sides, you have to expect fallout.  If you are of a sensitive nature and thin skinned; do not even get involved in politics. MJF has stated that he doesn’t get involved with politics (not a direct quote) but he has done ads for three Democrats and is on tap to do two or three more.  This is nationwide, not merely in his state. He makes it sound like he has done only the one ad referenced in his interview. Pretty damn active politically if you ask me.

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    By Jackie T. Gabel, October 27, 2006 at 10:21 am Link to this comment
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    Sounds like Rush is back on his meds. His principled listeners should demand reassurance that he’s clean by hearing him give his daily UA sample on the air and being given a chance to read certified lab results posted online. Otherwise, pull his license. The big boy needs “tough love!”

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    By Brian, October 27, 2006 at 10:12 am Link to this comment
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    At the prompting of Mr. Fox, I will be respectful in in my reply to Bob:

    Mr. Fox was very clear that the interest he has in stem cell research is reaching a majority opinion that will support it. If a political ad is a means to this end, it is simply that. I doesn’t mean, in any sense, that he is interested in politics. Politics is a much larger animal than a political ad. He is interested in furthering science and its ability to provide cures for the diseases he mentioned.

    Parkinson’s is a complex disease, and I urge you, Bob to do some reading about it. At different stages, medicines behave differently on the same patient. Hence, Mr. Fox being on medication years ago enabled his body to stop his tremors, where now it keeps him from being rigid.

    I heard Mr. Fox make no claims whatsoever about the cures that stem cell research has provided, though you, Bob, have claimed a specific number of them. Please provide details of some of these cures, as I’m sure most are not aware of them. It will advance your point and help to support non-embryonic stem cell research.

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    By vonwegen, October 27, 2006 at 9:42 am Link to this comment
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    So, “Bob”, you really expect us to believe your statement that “embryonic stem cell research doesn’t work”? You give no facts whatsoever to back up your claim. What makes your claim more valid than Michael J. Fox’s?

    Judging from the information supplied in your post to support your argument, you are venting a lot of hot air with no factual content.

    It’s the classic trademark of a total hypocrite to criticize someone for making “false claims” while doing the same himself.

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    By dave, October 27, 2006 at 9:09 am Link to this comment
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    Brings tears to my eyes.  MJF has class.  Unfortunately RL has none.

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    By Bob, October 27, 2006 at 6:43 am Link to this comment
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    MJF says he really doesn’t care about politics then why is he doing political ads?  He admitted in a Diane Sawyer interview that when he testified before Congress that he went off of his medications so that they would see his symptoms.  So why is it wrong for Rush to accuse him of doing the same thing? 

    Also, Embryonic stem cell research doesn’t work, it hasn’t cured anything.  However, Umbilical and adult stem celll research has led to 72 different cures. 

    If the guy is going to make false claims then he has a right to be challenge if he has a disease or not.

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