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Bush Backpedals on ‘Stay the Course’

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Posted on Oct 22, 2006
George W. Bush
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The president is rewriting history again, this time on ABC’s “This Week,” where he told George Stephanopoulos: “Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been ‘stay the course,’ George. We have been—we will complete the mission….”


 

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    By jim, October 24, 2006 at 5:30 pm #
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    Kevin Tillman’s article answers the hypocracy, idiocy, lies, and distortions of truth better than most politicians.  His story blasting Pres. Bush and his cohorts says it all for me.

    God help us to regather America and return it to the decency it deserves.

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    By cognitorex, October 24, 2006 at 4:45 pm #
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    Laura Bush Admits Hubby’s Nocturnal Woes

    “George’s nights have become troubling to him, more since the elections appear sure to return Congress to the Democratic Party,” said Mrs. Bush. “He keeps waking up and shouting, like someone is pointing a finger and accusing him of something.”
    “What does he shout?” Well, it used to be “stay the course” but now it’s almost always,”
    “I did not have sex with that country!”

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    By Mazi Ogbonna, October 24, 2006 at 3:43 pm #
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    THE IRONY OF US FOREIGN POLICY AND INCONSISTENCES.

    The World will never be a safe place until peace is given a chance to prevail. Peace will never prevail when we have a great divide between blacks and whites, rich and poor, Jews and Gentiles, the Powerful and less Powerful, the Christians and non-Christians, the Muslims and non-Muslims, Catholics and Protestants, the Educated and non-Educated, the Democrats and Republicans, the Developed and non-Developed Countries or the ever ending Us and Them labels. No amount of political clout or military superiority will bring about peace without collective efforts of all nations regardless of their social, political, economic and religious dispositions. What is necessary is a simple notion and conviction that we are all interwoven in our aspirations which are basic to all humans- the pursuit of liberty and happiness. Globally, we should pull together to solve world problems no matter their magnitude. Globally, we should not support suppression or mistreatment of any entity for political reasons or interest because the blind support of an oppressor against oppressed breads mistrust and untold repercussions to every body. The steadfastness to stamp out evil should be transparent without political maneuvering or special interest guiding the principles.

    On 9/11/01, the unthinkable happened. The world was shocked as hijackers using US commercial planes killed thousands of American Citizens in cold blood. Soon after, we discovered that 15 out of the 19 hijackers and their al-Quida commander, Osama bin Laden all came from Saudi Arabia. It is important to state that on that dreaded day, America was one as there was no listing of the dead according to their political orientation or religion. The gravity of the heinous crime against us was so great to unite the world sympathetically with us against the perpetrators. It was obvious then that the will of a great nation was shaken and regardless of the Party in power, a retaliation of some sort was eminent.
    Fiercely, the US with broad or coerced UN coalition went to war in Afghanistan against the terrorists in date…    But without getting the golden fleece which entailed capturing or killing Osama bin Laden, the war on terror was abandoned for an unpopular war against Iraq. To this end, the Bush administration implored dirty tactics which really translates to giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it. Saddam Hussein fitted that mold and Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) charges were trumped up against him as a justification to invade and occupy his country and kill innocent civilians as collateral damages. Yes Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator that deserved to be overthrown and tried for injustices against humanity.

    Yes, past American Administrations wined and dined with him and gave him the carte blanch weaponry (dirty or clean) to destroy his enemies especially Iran. For all intent and purposes, we paid deaf ears, and encouraged all his atrocities. If the truth must be told, the US was Saddam’s COLLABORATORS because of our greed on Middle East OIL. For that,  guess who should be blamed as Saddam’s his greatest ally? The evil empire of Saddam Hussein was encouraged by the supper powers including the USA. The USA provided Saddam Hussein with a great support militarily especially against Iranians during the lengthy Iraq-Iran war . Why? Through out history, the USA’s foreign policy of supporting a dictatorship regime or oppressive regime against the masses is endemic. USA was a strong ally of Iran between   when the USA supported the Shah of Iran who was looting his country dry. American looked the other way while Shah of Iran enriched himself and diverted his vast county’s treasury in safe heavens in American banks . The result was the revolt against the US that subsequently led to the Iranian hostage crisis of 1980’s that culminated into American Diplomats held hostages for 444 days. American supported the evil empire of Ferdinand Macos of the Philippines who was eventually forced into exile. The US openly supported the Taliban regime and Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan against the Russians. After the war against the Russians, the Taliban provided a safe heaven for Osama bin Laden with the full knowledge of the US.

    Without the necessary blessing and support of the UN, President George W. Bush declaring that the UN was of no consequence, arrogantly went to war with a go-it-alone mentality against Iraq. Nobody expected Iraq to be any match to the greatest surviving super power of the world-the USA. However, there is a saying that when a baby or an adult for that matter leaves the breast to sucks the arm pit, some thing is definitely wrong.  Bush was guilty of this grave mistake by attacking Iraq with false pretences and accusations of the acquisition of Weapons of Mass Destruction(WMD). Now we have come to realize that the true meaning of WMD is Walker’s Manipulations & Deceptions. Unfortunately, in the name of democracy, we are gradually converting this tragic 9-11 event into political gains for Republicans who constantly use scare tactics to consistently portray themselves as champions and heroes in the fight against terrorism. Bush and follow Republicans are in power just on that single thread of “fear mongering” championed by master minder, Carle Rowe.

    To further shake the political tree and harvest all its fruits,  president G.W. Bush and his administration has repeatedly resorted to the dangerous and misleading tactics of linking a political enemy, Iraq to the Al Qaeda terrorist network in spite of all proofs to the contrary. In this grand plan, Saudi Arabia and Osama bin Laden had gotten scout free as nobody should do anything to annoy our rich Arab Royal family. For security reasons, Osama bin Laden’s family was given an executive treatment by US officials when their escorted flight to Saudi Arabia left US air space as other planes were banned from coming in and going out of the US. Never before has it been done or sanctioned for the families of known criminals to be shielded from the justice system for security reasons, as was accorded to Saudi Arabia whose citizens were implicated by 9-11. If that happened elsewhere or under the watch of a Democratic president, the Republicans will cry foul and immediately demand for a special prosecutor to find the covert reasons behind this kind of special treatment that undermines National Security. To the average American, the arrangement looks like tampering with evidence and conspiracy to abet criminals. And to make matters worst, any evidence to enlighten us is sealed as a “classified document” to the public by executive order. We have to wait for 20 years or so, when the true connection and linkages to Saudi Arabia and al Qaeda will be revealed for historic purposes only.

    The question remains, with the staggering death toll and roof-top expenditure on Iraq war, how many more innocent American and Iraqi souls are we willing expend before we say enough is enough for the “blunders”. How long will it take us as Americans to wake up from our deep slumber to stop the Republicans to keep making political gains with ill conceived and bloody war in Iraq? Unless we use our political switch to turn off the lights against the Republicans on November 7 elections, we are likely to experience another Vietnam whether we like it or not. The Time to make a real change has come and we should never miss the golden opportunity. Let us stop rewarding the Republicans who keep lying to us to stay in power.

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    By Charlie M, October 24, 2006 at 2:18 pm #
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    I just wanted to note for the record that there are ‘liberals’ (millions of them) who believe in God and love this country.

    I am one of them.

    We are the true “silent majority.”

    Unfortunately, we have been too silent during this charade called a war.

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    By REvren, October 24, 2006 at 1:13 pm #
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    Robb,

    Repeat after me:  When Bill lied nobody died.

    Wars democrats wanted to fight:  WWI, WWII, Korea.
    Wars democrats didn’t want to fight: Iraq.
    Wars republicans didn’t want to fight:  WWI, WWII.
    Wars repubolicans wanted to fight:  Vietnam, Iraq, Korea.

    As to police actions, score a large win for democrats intervention in the former Yugoslavia.  Result:  stabilization, the end of ethnic cleansing and assertion of rule of law through Hague trials in a historically unstable region.

    Score democrats and republicans poorly for Vietnam.

    Score a very small win for republican invasion of Panama, where we arrested a drug dealer, with no visible effect on the drug trade.

    Award for picking the important wars to fight goes to ...I think you can figure it out.

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    By Bob Eckenrode, October 24, 2006 at 12:17 pm #
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    Clifton Mitchell wow you pretty much typed a lot and said nothing.  I know how to articulate in English and I speak Italian as well.  Sorry I guess I’m going to have to spell check and re-read everything I type. Just because someone is in a hurry and mispells a word or chooses the wrong word doesn’t make them an idiot.  You know what I was saying.  It’s funny how the people on this site read anyone’s message that isn’t anti-Bush and they critiique the spelling and the grammar.  Yet they don’t have a response to the content.  If any newspapers are looking for editors maybe they should come here there are a ton of them here. 

    Anyhow, Clifton if you’d like to debate anything just say so and watch how I make you look like the idiot you accuse me of being.

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    By Tonto, October 24, 2006 at 11:53 am #
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    To #32717 Robb

    Yes, we need to elect a President on merit not political affiliation.  But how do we go about that when it appears that elections can be stolen with the blink of an eye?  With ‘w’ (yes that’s small ‘w’), that’s at least 1 or 2 Presidential elections plus the possibility of the Texas Governorship from the ever so popular late Ann Richards.  How the ?&**! did he win that one?

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    By Mark, October 24, 2006 at 11:16 am #
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    It’s shocking to see that a history teacher can be so ignorant (see previous post #32717)and have such a poor command of the English language (is Robb really teaching our children? - a scary thought).

    I don’t think anyone will defend President Clinton for having lied during Monica-gate.  But as the popular bumper sticker states, “no one died when Clinton lied”. 

    Firthermore, Clinton’s decision to intervene in the Balkans was an attempt to stop a true humanitarian crisis, and it was done with much less loss of human life and with greater success than the Iraq fiasco.

    It’s also surprising to see the right attempt to blame him for not being successful in his attempts to take Bin Laden out during the 1990’s.  At the time, Republican congressionals claimed that his focus on taking out Bin Laden was an attempt to take attention away from Monica-gate and they poo-poo’ed Bin Laden’s significance.

    It’s amazing that there isn’t more momentum to impeach Bush, who has to be our most corrupt president since Nixon.  It’s interesting that Nancy Pelosi has said the Democrats won’t go after Bush, even if they gain control of the House.  I guess they want to avoid the impression going after Bush for revenge.  However, I think it would be completely justifiable and in the country’s best interest to get him out of the White House (and hopefully in an orange or striped jump suit).

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    By mutterhals, October 24, 2006 at 11:15 am #
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    I am disgusted by American politics. It’s gotten to the point that I would rather stick my head in the sand and ignore it.

    Here’s the unvarnished truth: GWB is a failure. You can cite the liberal media, or the democrats for tarnishing his image, but everyone can agree that he and his administration provided more than enough kindling to fan that fire. 

    No amount of spin or rhetorical bullshit can change this. If the democrats take over in November, nothing will change.  We are stagnating. I am watching the United States degenerate daily and all anyone can do is argue meaningless party politics and soundbites. We as Americans should be ashamed for letting this happen.

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    By Larry, October 24, 2006 at 10:18 am #
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    I have never and will never acknowlege George Bush as the President nor will I ever trust the election process in this country again until the people that are controlling it are in prison.

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    By Bob Eckenrode, October 24, 2006 at 8:29 am #
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    Wow a lot of hate in this place.  First of all to all you people that claim I’m a Republican, I’m not.  I’m a moderate, conservative Democrat.  Yes a dying breed but oh well.  I have noticed one thing though if you don’t bash the president in here you get called an idiot and personally attacked.  I’m not a Bush-lover, I’m an american lover.  I don’t trust politicians, I think the majority of them are corupt.  I research everything that they all say, and truthfully I found that Democrats, yes my party lies more than the Republicans.  I vote for the best canidate not straight party either way.  For all of you people that called me an idiot I’d gladly debate anyone of you one on one, but I noticed that the liberals start attacking people personally once they can’t come back with facts to back up their hate.

    For LDC, first of all I’m very educated.  Second you seem to be the one repeating what you hear on the news so who is brainwashed?  I’ve been to Iraq and I have buddies that were there this time.  I trust their words before any news media that puts a liberal Democratic agenda before the security of this country.  Yep, thanks media for linking all the ways in which we monitor and catch terrorists.

    For Sam, You my friend make me laugh.  You didn’t argue one point I made.  You just attacked me personally.  Hmmm let me start.  If you really need to know my life business then I’ll tell you.  First off, I have two bachelors degrees.  One in sports medicine and the other in health education.  Also, I’m a certified Physical therapist, certified athletic trainer.  I have a doctrate in sports medicine, so that makes me a doctor.  Also, in our spare time my wife and buy houses remodel them then flip them or keep them and rent them.  We currently own 18 houses and a 6 unit apartment building.  The reason I joined the military was first tradition, my father served as well.  Second my mommy and daddy didn’t have enough money to pay for my college.  So Sam you aren’t even close.  Oh yeah and I’ve never done drugs not even puffed but not inhaling. 

    Ok now I’ll sit back and wait to get attacked.  Also, if I misspelled anything it’s because I’m in a hurry not because I’m uneducated or an idiot.

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    By Clifton Mitchell, October 24, 2006 at 7:48 am #
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    For Bob (32531)  There’s a gross misunderstanding of our Dear Leader’s strategy and tactics in regards to the war.  Bush mistakenly has been mouthing the phrase “Stay the Course”, when what he really meant was “Stay the Intercourse” - that’s what he and his handlers having been doing to the American people these past few years. BTW Bob, the word you meant to use is “invading” -not “evading” - evading is what both Clinton and Bush did in regards to military service.  Oh,and I doubt that many Americans would have been capable of learning to speak German - most can barely articulate in American English.  That of course includes you.

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    By shelby, October 24, 2006 at 7:32 am #
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    My nightmare becomes a reality when I wake up every day and realize Georges election wasn’t a bad dream. Death, poverty, misery. Thanks George.

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    By Scott, October 23, 2006 at 10:15 pm #
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    On the subject of G. W., or rather the men behind the boy, I believe…

    - they never had any intention of winning anything.
    - they purposely ignored & silenced any & all accurate information contrary to their goal.
    - that their goal was to use US citizens’ money, blood & strength to secure their future energy & military logistics.
    - they’ve had these plans for a long, long time
    - they expected the chaos & civil wars in Iraq.
    - they are building the most expensive, extensive & secure US embassy in history outside Baghdad to strengthen their position.
    - US taxpayers will continue to fund private corporations in Iraq under the guise of ‘national security’ for decades.
    - this presidency was planned, bought & paid for, on the backs of unsuspecting, wanting-to-believe christians, veterans & simple people from all over the US.
    - nobody with any true analytical capacity, nor passing glance at G.W.‘s history, could believe that he has EVER made any move without direction from his unseen & unheard ‘masters’.
    - a new Congress & a new President will not undo all that’s been done in our name.

    Corporations write the US laws. Money spins the wheel. Our system MUST address these two facts. If not, nothing will change…

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    By Steve, October 23, 2006 at 9:19 pm #
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    To Bryan 32641 -

    Fascism in WWII was an idealogy, so is radical Islam.  It makes no difference if that “ideology” has an organized army or not and it makes no difference if it possesses religious overtones, which the Nazi party did.  It makes no difference. 

    What Bush is attempting to accomplish, which the world is completely blind to, is suppressing that ideology.  I think he’s doing a great job!

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    By Jason, October 23, 2006 at 8:39 pm #
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    Diebold - Protecting elections from democracy everywhere

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    By Robb, October 23, 2006 at 7:08 pm #
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    You all seem to forget about Clinton…..Took us to war in Bosnia & Mogadishu (with the UN or not doesnt matter, UN is worthless).  Also lied under oath, committed adultry, and lied directly to our faces about it ALL…..I don’t particularly care for Bush that much, but lets call it like it is Democrats….Republicans they are all a like!!!  They lie to us saying what they know we want to hear to get elected, then forget about us!!!  We live in a Republic, not a Democracy!!!!  Being a History teacher the comment about a conspiracy is INSANE>  We all need to realize WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED to listen and vote correctly to take back our house “the WHITE HOUSE”.  We need to elect a leader on merit not political affiliation.  Why do think both parties want us to fight???  Because the day we get smart enough to elect a 3rd party canidate with no ties to either party the Dems and Repubs will both lose control.  I am a registered Republican, I can see this plain as day won’t the rest of you???

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    By Dana, October 23, 2006 at 6:18 pm #
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    And I also have to ask ...

    Why does Bush always look like a deer caught in the headlights?

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    By tj, October 23, 2006 at 5:54 pm #
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    Is this the vision Bush had in mind for America and it’s people? He’s an absolute bully, not only to the world but here at home. He doesn’t speak for me and my family. He changes words to suit his needs.

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    By rjl, October 23, 2006 at 5:42 pm #
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    The whole presidency of GW bush is getting uglier by the second ,we can change this picture
    on NOV 7 2006 AND VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS!!!!

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    By rangzom, October 23, 2006 at 5:39 pm #
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    What I find most disconcerting is the oblivion with which you engage in this dialogue regarding someone who does not warrant dialogue. Why is there no mention about the atrocities being committed in Iraq and how to solve them on a human level. Where is the compassion for the human lives and the society that are being systematically destroyed. For each person who does nothing to resolve ingorance and anger in their resepctive hearts and minds, one more life will be lost, one more dream of beauty annhilated by the same avarice that set the oil fields on fire. And this life will eventually be our own, because we will still be believing and therefore perpetuating the illusions of death and fear that the person being criticized uses for policy-making. this game deserves to be no longer played.

    we need to create a new game. It starts with you, with a message of love from your hearts for everyone. this is for you…

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    By Dana, October 23, 2006 at 5:35 pm #
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    I don’t generally do more than “voice” my opinions, about how far away from the Constitution our great(?) warrior chief has strayed, to my very closest friends, however, this latest “stay the course” fiasco has maybe made it time for America to take a look at a couple of facts that I haven’t seen or heard anyone take a look at.  I’m not one of those people who sees conspiracies in every action of the government but I can’t just put aside how strongly most people will defend their family honor and beliefs. 

    #1 Bush Senior says we “CAN” win a nuclear war!
      [http://www.famoustexans.com/georgebush.htm]

    #2 Bush Jr. already has the authority to bomb
      whomever he sees fit and all it takes is a
      phone call from him and within hours millions
      can die   .....  [http://www.bushwatch.com/]

    Bush Sr. took us to war. He didn’t get a chance to prove his nuclear war belief’s as he was interrupted before he could by a defeat in an election.

    Bush Jr. has taken us back to the same war where his father left off.  He found no WMD’s so he had to walk softly, until he was re-elected and now that there is not another chance of re-election, to hell with what Americans think. 

    But now ... along has come the Bush dream ... “Korea WANTS to play NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!!  And as an added incentive to play ... well ... we don’t rely on any oil from Korea so radiation contamination isn’t a factor.  And where is his attention now ???  You do the figuring.

    Come on America, let’s wake up before it’s too late.  It’s time to take constitutional action and remove this man of many faces from office.

    Clinton lied to us to protect his own butt at home in a matter that was actually none of our business and, technically, didn’t hurt any of us, (physically), but look at the constitutional ramifications he received.  Bush Jr. has lied to us over and over to carry out his own agenda and has caused many Americans to lose their lives and is making ALL American’s targets of hate by more and more nations daily.

    Please America, don’t make our children live those “Road Warrior/Terminator” science fiction futures. Let’s ALL do the right thing and remove this “FAMILY” from office and let our Constitution “stay the course” !!!

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    By spike, October 23, 2006 at 4:57 pm #
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    Arrest Bush & Cheney 2008

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    By Sam, October 23, 2006 at 4:53 pm #
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    FOR BOB #32531…You are an idiot.  Republicans are idiots.  You my friend have been brainwashed.  I am guessing you barely graduated high school and joined the military to avoid a lifetime of meth addiction and trailer living.  But chances are you didn’t avoid that.  Let me guess…you also work on an assembly line in some shitty factory?  How close am I buddy?  If you can’t see the lies covered up by the government you are pretty slow.  As far as the liberal media…sorry if they want to report the truth instead of scripts reported by Fox that are written by Rove and his team of crooks.

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    By Charles Erps, October 23, 2006 at 4:52 pm #
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    Has anyone else noticed?  There’s a village in Texas missing its Idiot.

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    By Margaret Currey, October 23, 2006 at 4:48 pm #
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    32540 do you believe that King George should be impeached, along with Prince Chaney?

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    By Tonto, October 23, 2006 at 4:34 pm #
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    For LDC #32605
    Watch what you write when you refer to Bob as an uneducated lemming…I read a few grammatical and spelling errors in your message that left me with the impression you’re not so terribly educated either. The guy’s got a right to his own opinion too.
    For the record I’m not a Bush supporter.

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    By Darrell Moore, October 23, 2006 at 4:31 pm #
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    Dorothy…
    As a recovering addict of 29 years, I disagree. It’s called a ‘dry drunk.’

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    By ogb1, October 23, 2006 at 4:13 pm #
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    There are three things that have always been true about W. He is liar, a coward and a dumbass.

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    By Darrell Moore, October 23, 2006 at 4:00 pm #
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    James Buchanan moves up!! He’s now the 2nd most unqualified to hold the office.

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    By Daughter of a Marine, October 23, 2006 at 4:00 pm #
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    If you think Dubya is backpeddling because of the media, you are as wacko as he is. He’s backpeddling because he has been found out by the American public. I lived on bases and grew up around Marine’s my entire young life, my father served in Vietnam, and served this country on active duty for 25 years, he thought George W. was an a—back in 2001 prior to 9/11.

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    By Bryan, October 23, 2006 at 3:24 pm #
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    Steve wrote in #32579:
    ————————————————————————-
    If we had the likes of Pelosi, Price and the liberal media out there reporting on the war in 1944 when we stormed the beaches at Normandy and Iwo Jima, we would have lost the war.  I can hear the press now, “President Truman, when are you going to stop the killing and torturing?  Look, we have the Germans and Japanese on the run, they’re going back to their homeland.  Don’t you think we should pull back and re-deploy our troops?”
    ————————————————————————-

    I think that this is one of the main reasons we are in this mess in Iraq. Neo-cons (most of whom never served in the military) think it’s World War II all over again. To them it’s all about sending the Third Army to destroy the Waffen S.S.
    but in reality it’s not. It’s about the men and women of the intelligence community who stopped the London highjackings and who tried in vain to warn Bush about 9/11.

    While storming the beaches worked for Eisenhower, it was because he faced a different enemy. I fail to see the connection between a bunch of religious nuts who have missed every opportunity in the book since 9/11 to attack America and the elite Prussian officers who considered themselves gentlemen warriors plagued by “that Bohemian corporal”.

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    By R. Rybnick, October 23, 2006 at 3:15 pm #
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    Thank you Tom (Comment #32592).  That was very informative, and boils down the situation perfectly.  We need more level headed republicans, like your friend, in this country.

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    By GW=MCHammered, October 23, 2006 at 2:52 pm #
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    Bill Maher bears repeating here-

    “And finally, new rule in two parts:

    (A) You can’t call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid; and

    (B) If you’re someone from one of these think tanks that dreamed up the Iraq War and who predicted that we’d be greeted as liberators, and that we wouldn’t need a lot of troops, and that Iraqi oil would pay for the war, that the WMD’s would be found, that the looting wasn’t problematic, that the mission was accomplished, that the insurgency was in its last throes, that things would get better after the people voted, after the government was formed, after we got Saddam, after we got his kids, after we got Zarqawi, and that whole bloody mess wouldn’t turn into a civil war, you have to stop making predictions.”

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    By John C. Bonser, October 23, 2006 at 2:22 pm #
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    The Christian right wing allowed itself to be seduced by the prestige offered for its votes. It abandoned the ethics of Jesus for a place at the table of the wealthy. It rewrote its own Ten Commandments so that it was OK to “bear false witness.”

    However, those who so shabbily used them are also responsible. Tax cuts for the top tier were far more important than disaster assistance.

    Bob this president is propping up the Muslim countries you suggest we visit. This administration has to bear some responsibility for the establishment of The Islamic Republic of Iraq.

    While I had no idea that GWB would be such a disaster, I am surprised that his actions have not made the GOP as mad as hell!

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    By dorothy coper, October 23, 2006 at 1:49 pm #
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    impeach him before he does more harm to our country and other countries.  he thinks it is a game like football or baseball.  don’t forget he was an alcoholic.  one drink and back to alcoholism

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    By LDC, October 23, 2006 at 1:46 pm #
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    THIS IS FOR BOB comment #32531
    hey idiot why dont you wake up figure out that your supporting a dictator!! You embarass yourself when you talk like a completely un-educated lemming. All those so called connections between Saddam and Al-Qaeda were proven completely false, as did everything else that has come out of that idiot presidents mouth. NOW he’s trying to backpedal and claim that america was never “Stay the couse”....??????? what the $#%@. I personally, as did many other american’s, watched him in speech after speech during the first months of the war state emphatically that “We just need to stay the course” everything will be ok if we just “Stay the course” Wake up we are no longer living in a free society!!!! You are a perfect example of how americans can be brainwashed into not seeing whats directly in front of there face. If your such a bush lover, why are you here at truthdig anyway?     
           

                    P.S. have a nice day

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    By Tom, October 23, 2006 at 1:11 pm #
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    I had an interesting conversation with a Republican friend of mine this weekend.  I’m a Democrat, so you can imagine the heated debates we’ve had over the past few years.  Not pretty!  But this particular conversation caught me off guard.

    I asked him yesterday how he feels about “his party.”

    His answer boiled down to this.  He is Republican because he believes in a couple primary principles which he feels the Democrats are not strong on:

    1) Government should be small and not intrude where it does not belong.  We are a REPUBLIC of states that are quite capable of governing themselves when it comes to issues that are not the nation’s responsibility.

    2) Government should spend responsibly.  Spending responsibly allows for fewer and lower taxes.  Economic strength, aside from the Stock Market, is also measured by how much the “average” person is able to spend…and save.

    After pointing those two things out, he said “The Republican Party isn’t about those two things anymore, which is why the Republicans are having problems.” 

    He went on to describe how Bush’s intervention in the Terri Schaivo case was the point in time where he stopped supporting his party’s behaviors.  In his opinion, this was not a national issue.  This was an issue for the Schaivo family, and at the very most, the state of Florida, not Washington DC.  The White House affiliation with their religious base was made all too clear.  He also pointed out how the President responded quicker to her plight than to the people of New Orleans.

    My friend also originally supported the War in Iraq.  He pointed out how the original notion of Saddam Hussein having WMD was unacceptable.  The WMD coupled with Hussein’s dictatorial ways was enough for him to support it.  He had faith in his leaders that they were smart and had reliable information proving the existence and intent of obtaining WMD by Iraq.  But now, my friend admits, he feels he was bamboozled by the very administration he helped elect.  He feels the administration did not do its homework to understand the relationships between the peoples of Iraq.  They went in half-cocked.  They toppled a regime, but were clueless how to proceed afterwards when the Iraqi people didn’t “treat us as liberators” as VP Cheney said they would.  My friend made a great analogy:  “Bush took a stick and beat a hornets nest, and didn’t have strategy for avoiding or treating the stings.  Not smart if you ask me.”

    He made two points.  If the Republicans were truly the answer to the middle east dilemma, two things would be true:

    1)  There would be fewer terrorists instead of more

    and

    2)  Bin Laden, the man who attacked us, would be dead

    “Neither is true,” he said “and I’m very disappointed in them for that.”  My Republican friend says he feels more fear for his kids than ever before, and feels responsible for not being more careful in his past voting choices.

    He explained how this war has cost this nation so much money that the national deficit will be a problem for generations to come…probably even long after we are all dead.  There goes fiscal responsibility.

    While my friend still believes in “true” Republican values, he can’t support the party until it once again stands for those values.  He pointed out that this administration in particular requires checks and balances, therefore his party should lose control of the House and Senate…no more blank checks for Bush.

    I was blown away to hear this from him after the past arguments we’ve had.

    He says he’s staying home on Nov. 7.  He offered to give me a ride though.

    Interesting and 100% true.

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    By Steve, October 23, 2006 at 12:22 pm #
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    It appears that this website is for those who are not truly objective.  War is a history of this country.  If Diane who seems to condemn all sorts of violence and war (who also calls herself a Christian…yeah right!), then she and others need to understand that war is inevitible in the formation and sustaining of any homeland. 

    Did George Washington sit around a table with the British enjoying tea and crumpets?  If it wasn’t for the Civil WAR, then there would still be slavery.  If it wasn’t for Dwight D. Eisenhower deciding to storm the beaches of Normandy in 1944 (resulting in 6000 dead soldiers in three hours) the entire Europeon region would be a Fascist State, if it wasn’t for George W. Bush acting,and the Senate Intellegence Committee, the EU, the United Nations Security Council, approving the position of the United States in going to Iraq, Sadaam would still be in power adding to his 330,000 people he murdered. 

    The Middle East has been a hot bead of violence with an ideology of hate for anyone including Democrats and Republicans, black and white.  At least we have a President who takes tough decisions contrary to the liberal biases that exits.

    If we had the likes of Pelosi, Price and the liberal media out there reporting on the war in 1944 when we stormed the beaches at Normandy and Iwo Jima, we would have lost the war.  I can hear the press now, “President Truman, when are you going to stop the killing and torturing?  Look, we have the Germans and Japanese on the run, they’re going back to their homeland.  Don’t you think we should pull back and re-deploy our troops?”

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    By Sid Iszehn, October 23, 2006 at 12:06 pm #
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    “NO MORE BULL, MR. PRESIDENT”

    George Bush is like a classic champion bullfighter.

    The bull stands at a distance, snorting, and digging at the dirt, indicating its challenging intention. The bullfighter turns his back with confidence, arms at his side, and sword within reach. With a casual turn, he then waves the red flag in the face of the huge, snorting bull. The enraged bull charges right at the matador, knocks him high into the air and he lands hard and flat on his ass.

    The bullfighter appears dazed and confused. Slowly, he gets up, faces the bull again, and vows to fight back (this time). And he does, masterfully sticking the bull with a few picadors’ lances, drawing some blood and anger.

    Then, just when the bull weakens, the splendidly dressed matador goes out into the forest and kills a deer.

    He sends in a sizeable contingent of toreadors to kill the abundant deer throughout the forest, all while the bull gains strength elsewhere.

    The killing of the deer doesn’t set well with the forest-dwellers, and they get angry. This ongoing action brings out the bears and the wolves who live in and nearby the forest, because, well, they eat deer, and can take easy advantage of the plentiful and defenseless deer scattering in all directions, confused as to where to turn in a suddenly unfamiliar environment. And they’ll happily eat human deer-killers, too. When they happen to run into each other, they also kill each other, because they’re predators and natural enemies, agitated and upset at the disturbing intrusion of their domain by all.

    Well, poor George doesn’t understand any of this. So some of the toreadors, and other officials elected and hired to assist with managing the prestigious bullfighting profession, explain it to him. But he just believes he has to get rid of more deer, to calm the forest. After all, if the deer can be managed, the forest will be calmer and less dangerous. But there sure are a lot of deer, and more bear and wolves than expected. So he sends in more toreadors to handle the bears and the wolves, along with the deer.

    And the bull snorts, and digs into the ground.

    Mr. President, it’s time to get out of the forest and leave the deer and the bears and the wolves alone. We’ve learned how to live in respectful coexistence with the forest, when we respect the nature of the inhabitants, and how they relate, as they have for eons. We cannot change nature, but we can work with it.

    So, get back to the bull, Mr. President. Either kill it, or stop bringing it back to the stadium and dancing around with it in front of us, making it angrier and angrier by your pin-pricks, your posturing, your active ignorance and your smug silence.

    Or we’ll do it for you, without you. Certainly you, of all people, understand that.

    No more bull, Mr. President.

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    By jimbo, October 23, 2006 at 12:00 pm #
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    Do you think that Bush is the personification of the devil?  Then, according to the LA Times, you are anti-american and anti-US.  Three staff writers in the last two weeks have made this statement in reference to remarks made by Hugo Chavez in his recent speech at the UN.  If you need more scary stuff for halloween, check out the cartoon La Cucaracha by Lelo in last Sunday’s comics of the LA Times.  It shows four trickortreaters.  One is Cheney as a ghost with a money bag, one is Rumsfeld with a busted sword, one is Condi with a light wand, and the fourth is Bush as a devil holding a bag with a torn bottom.

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    By George Black, October 23, 2006 at 11:35 am #
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    Bob said it very well. The sad fact is many defend this country untill death, to support your right to speak and act like idiots. Please visit any Muslim led country and speak like you do and see what happens. Don’t take this freedom for granted.

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    By Diane, October 23, 2006 at 10:25 am #
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    in response to #32476 by fw138
    Please don’t lump all Christians together…there are some of us who truly believe in God and morality who did not vote for the puppet who calls himself a leader. In frustration we have not been heard among the conservatives either..the ones who choose Fox news over CNN, who somehow think Jesus was a republican! In my opinion, if christians (which means Christ-followers) were to follow the example of Jesus, they would be loving their enemies, they would be praying for those who persecute them, and they would certainly be as adamant against war-killing as they are baby-killing (ie, abortion). Let’s face it, morality and politics are like oil and water. It’s a mess run by thieves, and you’re right in that christians should be ashamed of themselves for taking part by being blindly ignorant to the facts. It’s an embarassment to the christian faith…but be assured that God is real and He cares…He just let’s us make our own mistakes because He is NOT a puppet master. So let’s try to be the smarter ones, representing a Creator that cares for the ENTIRE creation.

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    By Janet Thompson, October 23, 2006 at 9:55 am #
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    King George is not mentally capable to hold the position of the President of the USA. I keep thinking that what is going on in America is a dream, and I will wake up, all will be well.  But that will never happen as long as the Bush Adminstration is in office.  We have ONE chance to change things, and that is GO OUT AND VOTE ON NOVEMBER 7, 2006, SHOW EVERYONE THAT AMERICA BELONGS TO AMERICANS.  Don’t allow Bush to send one more man or woman to their death in Iraq.  Speaking of those serving, how many sons, daughter, relatives of the Congress and Senate have served, or presently defending American in Iraq.  Why not?  Thing about it really hard.

    VOTE THE GOP OUT ON NOVEMBER 7, 2006!

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    By George Black, October 23, 2006 at 9:29 am #
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    I am upset about the mammoth cost, disruption, and delay that occur now at all airports of the world. The disruption caused by a few. I resent my loss of freedom. Stop blaming the President and put the blame where it belongs.

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    By Bill W, October 23, 2006 at 9:11 am #
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    George Bush is a complte idiot. every time he says some thing he proves it to the whole world. A puppet on a string for his daddies buds to use.

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    By Bob, October 23, 2006 at 8:57 am #
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    I’m tired of hearing all these people bash the president.  The reason he is waivering is because the liberal media continues to lie about everything going on in the war.  Nobody wants war, but there are times when wars need to be fought.  Thank God you people weren’t around in World War II or we would be speaking German right now.  All you liberal democrats forget that in 1998 when Pres. Clinton was thinking about evading Iraq because they never followed the sanctions set in desert storm(which I served in the Army) then the news media was talking about all kinds of connections between Iraq,Sadam,Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.  Next comes the 2000 election and all of a sudden the news media has amnesia.  You people make me sick.  You are nothing but America-haters and puppets for the Democrats.  Why don’t you pay attention before you make stupid comments that embarass yourselves.

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    By MichaelS, October 23, 2006 at 8:53 am #
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    George Bush gets away with his lies for one reason: those lies are willfully accepted and embraced by his followers, and unfortunately, there is still alot of them out there.

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    By Tarja Black, October 23, 2006 at 8:51 am #
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    To FW 138 et al

    Bush has never been “elected” or (especially) “re-elected” president. So please substitute the terms “assumed the presidency” and “returned to office” when referring to his tenure.

    The guy has been a failure at everything he’s ever done, every business he headed, every office he has assumed. Why oh why did even a percentage of Americans think he could be a success as our country’s chief executive?

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    By Cheryl Fudally, October 23, 2006 at 7:18 am #
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    I would like to commit on George W. Bush. He is a liar a thief, and a very evil man. He has learned by his father to be the world’s devil. He is evil to the core. He thinks he is the world’s greatest lover, he was at a cocktail party and he did have his wife on his arm it was pretty blonde tall and thin. He uses people he want to be the savior of the world. But his first gold is to destory America. Yes indeed he wants to bring America to her knees and destory her. So he can step in and save her. He has never told the truth. Being from the Vietnam era, he never served his country. Liar he ran for cover. He couldn’t fly a plane if he tried. He stayed drunk and women swapped. Yes! He used woman like toliet paper. Now he calls his self a child of God. No he is a child of the devil. His father and him have a gold in mind to destory America and the sooner the people wake up and smell the roses the better. The men in the boat to help him are as follows: Bush’s, Chaney, Rumfield, Roth, and several others. They should all be tried for Treson. They are the traitors of this country. And publicly hung till dead…...

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    By Carol, October 23, 2006 at 7:00 am #
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    Rove told Bush long ago he could say anything he wanted to help push the Republican agenda, because if he denied it enough times at a later date people would come to believe his “new” lie and forget the old one.  Every time one of the Bush administration’s reasons to go into Iraq was proven to be untrue, he changed the mission. Our troops DID complete their ORIGINAL mission LONG AGO. The problem for Republican politician’s now is that of the 51% of voters that got Bush re-elected in 2004, some of them are finally starting to see him/them for what they really are. It’s time to change the course Republican politicians have set for America. It’s time to clean house. We need to get Democrats in control that will have real investigations so that we can find out if the members of our military that are now serving time in prison were actually following “orders” regarding the treatment of prisoners.  If so, these troops should be released and the higher ups that ordered the treatment should replace them.(Even if it is Bush/Cheney or Rove) We now know that Bush approved of torture so we should be asking ourselves, how, after members of our military put their lives on the line to protect America, could we allow them to be the fall guys?

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    By fw138, October 23, 2006 at 2:46 am #
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    Fifty one percent of voters were stupid enough to re-elect King George.  The fact that he is an arrogant, pompous, egomaniac should have been obvious, but these people were so blinded by their christian conservative, hypocritical attitudes, they allowed themselves to be mislead into believing Bush really cared about their false morality.  These people feel they have a right to tell the rest of us how to lead our lives and, thus, re-elected a man so stupid he allows himself to be lead by the nose by the current version of the three stooges (Cheney, Rove, and Rumsfeld).  It is these fifty one percent of voters who must share the blame for the deaths of three thousand fine young Americans, not to mention more Iraqis than Sadaam killed during his reign.  If these people really cared, there would be an overwhelming demand for the impeachment of both Bush and Cheney.  I’m actually not sure if King George is really to blame as he is controlled by the three stooges mentioned above.  I doubt if Bush has ever had an original thought in his life.

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    By Roland Bankole Marke, October 23, 2006 at 1:32 am #
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    My new book - Harvest of Hate - Stories and Essays - “Fuel for the Soul” is a microcosm of the the biting realities of our times. Its daring anecdotes employ a bare knuckled mindset, depicting the malaise of greed, conflicts, blood diamonds and child soldiers in Africa. The universe has descended into a neighborhood of concern. “Injustice any where is a threat to justice every where…. hatred paralyses life; love releases it.” MLK

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    By chris, October 22, 2006 at 9:50 pm #
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    when will Bush ever be clled on or held accountable for his baldfaced lying? And he dares to call himself a god-fearing christian???

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    By JoeC, October 22, 2006 at 9:36 pm #
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    Pathological narcissists lie to you about facts they know you know. They lie to you about what you have said and done. Even if you said or did it only one second ago. They lie to you about what they have said and done in your presence. Even if they said or did it only one second ago. They lie about what you have done together. Even if it was only one second ago. In short, they lie like somebody out of his mind or hallucinating. Anybody we all know fit that description???

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