David Kuo is asked during the interview if he is/was naive, and he is to some extent. The things that the religious right want politically are essentially unattainable and unconstitutionally.

For instance, they would like to have prayer in schools or the Ten Commandments in every courthouse, yet these ideas are prohibited by the First Amendment, the seperation of church and state. So, they think further out and want to delete the First Amendment or write a new amendment to counter the First Amendment. Yet they aren’t thinking clearly. The First Amendment protects their religion from government meddling. It was that amendment that allowed religion to flourish in America because the government couldn’t repress any religion.

The religious right gets all frothy when that statue of the Ten Commandments was removed from that Alabama courthouse, but without the First Amendment the government could make a law that required that all churches erect an expensive statue of the Ten Commandments. The government could require specific prayers be chanted or specific hymns sung among many things to interfere with relgious practice. The religions of America would scream if they were told what to do in their church. The First Amendment goes both ways, no religion in our government and no government in our religion. But these religious right fools can only think in one direction.

Why? Because people like James Dobson and Pat Robertson have found a cash cow. They work up their followers into hate and anger at the government, Democrats, atheists, the ACLU, take your pick, in order to get money into their pockets. Sure, they spend a portion of the money on elections, but the rest ends up in promotion of themselves. Talk about gullibility, the current relgious shysters are nothing but reincarnations of past bilkers of the faithful followers, such as Jimmy Swaggert and Jim Bakker.

Abortion is another false issue to get money out of the gullible church folk. I don’t care how many conservatives are on the Supreme Court, they are not going to make abortion illegal. They will not want to make law the prosecution of women who have abortions or as a few Congressmen want, the death penalty for abortion doctors. They don’t want our jails filling up with doctors and women who had abortions, it’s that simple. Conservative Supreme Court judges are probably the most likely NOT to tamper with prior jurisprudence, they don’t want to be activist judges. Further, even if I’m wrong and they reverse Roe v Wade, there would soon be an “underground railroad” to Canada, where abortion is legal. Shoot, it would probably even fall under the category of “free trade.” The religious right is not going to stop abortions and their leaders know it.

I’ve long wondered about Bush and his religious ties. I do believe he is one of them, but I also believe he is completely self-serving. All issues to him are “what does it do for me?” I also believe Bush is a Revelationist and sees himself as key to Revelations fulfilling its prophecy. The Middle East wars are/were intertwined with several Bush motives. We all know its about the oil, Bush was an oil industry guy. But further it is about an apocalyptic belief within Bush. The wars are also about hegemonic empire and religious superiority of Christian over Islam and let’s face it, an undertow of white supremacy. Throw in neo-liberalism (the capitalist effort to economically dominate the Middle East) and we have the complicated inner-Bush.

All these factors can be supported by the religious right. They’ve been led to believe that personnel financial wealth is Christian, and that is why they now support corporate power. But the totality of all the things I mentioned above is why Bush still can garner at least a 30% automatic approval rating due to the religious right. It’s the Bush base, the slim voting faction that allowed him to win two elections (stole?). So the Republicans pander to that base and in my long circle, David Kuo is somewhat naive.

I actually hope that I’m wrong about Bush being a Revelationist and that all he does is allude to it in order to pander to the religious right, because if I’m not wrong then that would mean our country is truely led by a religious madman. Bush does have a bit of meglomania in him, I can understand nearly anyone who wants to be president as being afflicted with that. But an insane Revalationist? That would certainly put him in the company of Hitler as an historic leader of a major country with irrational and dangerous ideology.

Gee, whom do you believe in this?  In the red corner, we have a lying, cheating, thieving, treasonous White House.  And in the blue corner, an honest man.

Stoppable force vs. immovable object, anyone?

Curious that it has taken this long for the hypocracy of the bu$h administration to be shown in all its political glory. But its sad that we still have yet to see any group of so-called religous leaders in our country standup to say the same thing. That this president who wraps himself in the flag and the bible is responcible for so much death and destruction. It flies in the face of everything that Jesus taught during his brief time on the earth, and yet , none of the religous leaders, not Billy Graham, not Rev. Schuller, none of them have shown the courage to stand up and speak what they must know is the truth. It is still the gris of the internet, but not on our network news programs where so many get their information. I believe the outcome eventually will be a more secular society in America, because this administration has surely left a terrible example of all that is wrong with religion, when it is used to justify bombing people into loving america.

Tom Delay and Jack Abramoff were lobbied to help a failing casino run by a Native American tribe in Louisiana.  They had evangelist Ralph Reed go to work drumming up opposition among his flock against gambling in Texas.  The casino was a fairly short drive across the state line, thus increasing their out-of-state customer base.

Kou is halfway to waking up.  He now realizes that the GOP was using people of faith.  Final step in becoming an adult:  realize that the Church uses people of faith.  The church sops up gullible people’s extra time and money and squanders them.  At the same time conservative churches actively oppose anything that would make a meaningful difference for poor people.  They oppose collective bargaining, women’s rights, living wage, liberation theology, hell they were against abolishing slavery.  Didn’t Jesus or someone say that the antichrist would take its seat in the house of god?  Stop feeding the beast.

When “nuts, goofy, rediculous.....” truckloaded zombies to voting booths, it is not difficult to envisage the nation is being destoyed by american christian talibans.

The Dominionists who wish to dismantle the government and replace it with GOD´S LAW, I.E. THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE, STONING AND ALL.....TAXES COLLECTED BY THE CHURCHES, TITHES, WOULDN´T YOU KNOW, AND TRANSGRESSIONS PUNISHABLE BY GUESS WHO....THE CHURCH....NOW WHO IN THE CHURCH WOULD HOLD THAT POWER...intresting......ALLIED with the DOMINIONISTS who want to control the world so they can drain every last drop of oil at a huge return to themselves regardless of who and how many they need to kill, rape, destroy with torture, and leave their homelands in ruins...and that is just the oil concerns, but the mining, manufacturing, etc. are right behind them.
WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN FIRST...WILL THE ALLIED REALIZE THAT THEY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE, WILL THE REST OF THE PEOPLE OF THE US WAKE UP AND SAY ENOUGH, OR HAVE WE ALREADY DESTROYED OUR ENVIRONMENT BEYOND REPAIR SO THAT THE REAL END OF TIMES STARTS WITHOUT THE MUCH TOUTED SECOND COMING JUST PLAIN DESTRUCTION.

ON ‘RELIGICAL’ DOMINATION OF SUPERPOWER DEMOCRACY

(AS COMPARED TO)
THE FAITHFUL TRUTH & MORAL BEAUTY
OF THE AMISH (Geneva-Convention-Quaint)

(from:
PULPIT NONFICTION FOR A CHANGE)

Now what a haunting Reminder to America

that horse & buggy funeral procession;

the stricken grandfather in wounded humility

turning his cheek from the camera as if it

just struck

a glancing blow;

the Obeyed Demand of Forgiveness Finding its Way

out to the world’s shock and awe, to mean itself that much,

to Know that unshakably,

affirming their potable depth of Faith and defying

our polluted suspension of Belief

to flow that fresh, that clean,

that lofted through such tears,

a Somehow still-

-guttering

Birthday Candle of Christ in Humanity

~a Wish for His Mercy on Earth NOW

through gaping cracks of absolute innocent Grief…

heart-felt, crushed-open meltdown-light…

An Ageless Example

to the busy Fuss & Bustle of Modern “Faith”

there we have it, Folks--

From the Hopelessly-Quaint

“Horse & Buggy” Set!

Haha.  Maybe in the End

The Joke’s

...on Us…

On Echochambered Megachurches

flocking to the Carnival Barker’s Ticket-Pitchcraft:

The Rapture Coaster!

[Must Vote REPUBLICAN to Ride Forever]

Full of a Lesson for the Lastbound “First”?

...what a bittersweet rebuke to evangelical rapturites

those garish Neo-Christian Rodeo Clowns,

those Moon-$hadowed Religitician$

of the Far Right: over-privileged, over-indulged

Sheep-Clothed wolves

howling on behalf of their

darkening Party, urging Thoughtless Legions

to Cast their Votes like Stones

Against the Poor:

Unquestioned

Moral Loss-Leaders (from Pro-"Life" to Pro-War-Pharisees)

pointy-elbowed partakers of upscale lifestyles, Needers of

luxury, overt consumers of ‘Creature Comforts’…

“First-Class Passengers” of Christian Faith:

that’s right--eager butlers for Powers That Be--

take an unflinching look

at these shepherds of Our National Soul--

you will not find a “Better Angel” among them.

Lift Rock & ROLL…

Oop$ee--

the multi-millionaire borne-again goonset

of Bushelzebubba Toadia

“endorsing” assasinations

& “blowin’ ‘em off the face of the

Earth

in the name of the LORD”

[aka, “The Prince of Peace”...]

shall we call it ‘science’ or is it more an art

telling the smell of $ulphur

from a PResidential Fart?

2

Those Whose Names--

having so

(Heartlessly, Thoughtlessly)

Befriended & Served the Interests

of the Powers that Be,

will never appear on a ‘no-fly’ list here--

may yet

Gnash & Wail at Hell’s Coiled Twist:

O YES--

Famous names, Familiar names:

Whitehouseholed names,

Church-goey ‘Trusted’ names like

Dobson,

Falwell,

Robertson

Might well indeed appear on the

Flight-to-HEAVEN’S

No-Fly list.

And as God is “No Respecter of Persons”

will it matter--at all-- that a “PRayerful”

PResident

PRomptly “returned” their “call”?

The line is long indeed of the Last featuring themselves “First”

in Love with Christ…

Hard-Rightwing Left-Behindees?

They will be Surprised, BIGtime.  But we shouldn’t be. 

Doesn’t Scripture foretell the Thoughtlessly-Willing

Deception of the “Very Elect”?

They “Followed” as they were “Told”.

Ignoring Bitter Truth for Sweet Lies--

What could be simpler:

than to “know them by their fruits”.

Who Said That?

Think he Meant it?

Who has heart-felt eyes to see

at least might glimpse

the $cales of the Beast

“Between the Lines”:

The Lies, and the Father of Lies, stroking,

coveting, stoking our deepest fears

how the Serpent then $hines!

how he Rises, then again “disappears”

~the Moments of Deception far more Telling

and telling far more--than

Moments of Truth

~Proclaiming himself “Decider”

“Serving” the Prince of Peace

...as President of WAR…

An “American” who would be “King"…

--What Whitehouse in “Greener $ervice” to the “Root of all Evil”

than HIS?

3

The bittersweet burden of forgiveness

borne by horse & buggy

their upbrought intentions manifest, in bereavement quivering

but in mercy unshaken--

“quaint” as those Geneva Conventions.

THESE Christians have Kept the Faith: uncontaminated,

manifestly unmistaken.

Of course not in Horse & Buggy per se:

but in, and by, Heart and Soul, Follow their Way.

They were never tempted to take the Broad Self-Righteous Road

of Political Redstatechristianity;

I urge you

Brother and Sister in Christ:  long yet sudden in coming

it is now High Time Indeed to Turn

Forever

from the Hard Right’s Misguiding Wrong,

against their barbarous, fear-mongering Absolutes:

Look to Those Untempted by Power & Pride;

Who Never Let Their Faith Be Taken

“Hostage”

for the False Ransom of a False Ride…

...Know them by their Fruits--

Who So Quaint by Horse & Buggy

Stay the Truer Course, Unshaken:

Watch and Learn.

Watch and Learn Indeed.

REV. HOGTIE POTUS (Cowboy Noir)

http://www.kyndmusic.com/2006/10/09/the-truth-moral-be auty-of-the-amish/#more-826

Check out the excerpts from the “Karl Rove Joke Book” at
http://corporatejesus.blogspot.com

So - the Bush administration used evangelical Christians to gain a majority in the country so that it could do what it liked. The evangelical Christians used the electoral process to gain a foothold in the White House and impose its beliefs and policies on the country.

Who was using whom?

Both groups are despicable. Get religion OUT of government and government policies.

The law as it stands allows people to practice their religion without persecution. I don’t recall it said anywhere that those who hold religious beliefs shoudl be allowed to impose them on others by invading and subverting the government.

T’was ever so! A rule of thumb I have always followed is “the more ‘religious’ they are, the more they are covering up.” People fall for the nonsense about politicians being people “of faith” if they say “God bless you” often enough. This is likely the most corrupt administration in US history - and, of course, they cover their crimes with “religion.” I am pleased that someone in this administration has the courage to recognize the phony religious faith of the White House. More wars have been fought in the name of religion than anything else!

I’ve said it time and again, the president is an ATHEIST!
The Christian act is for public consumption.
The various family members have picked different denominations
in order to keep a foot in every door. Wake up!