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Posted on Dec 3, 2007
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By Reese Erlich

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FOOTNOTES

1.  James Woolsey, quoted in Thomas Stauffer, “Unlike Dimona, Iran’s Bushehr Reactor Not Useful for Weapons-Grade Plutonium,” Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, Sept. 2003, pp. 28 - 29.

2.  Henry Kissinger, Washington Post, Mar. 29, 2005, op-ed article.

3.  Dafna Linzer, “Past Arguments Don’t Square With Current Iran Policy,” Washington Post, Mar. 27, 2005.

4.  Muhammad Sahimi, interview with author, Oct. 17, 2006, Los Angeles.

5.  John K. Cooley, “More Fingers on Nuclear Trigger?” Christian Science Monitor, June 25, 1974. See also Elaine Sciolino, “Nuclear Ambitions Aren’t New for Iran,” New York Times, June 22, 2003.

6.  Der Spiegel, Feb. 8, 1975, as cited in Muhammad Sahimi, “Iran’s Nuclear Program, Part V,” Pavand Iran News, Dec. 22, 2004 (www.pavand.com).

7.  Linzer, Washington Post.

8.  David Wallechinsky and Irving Wallace, The People’s Almanac, 1981 (http://www.trivia-library.com/c/excesses-of-the-rich- and-wealthy-shah-of-iran-party.htm).

9.  Federal Research Service, “The Dhofar Rebellion,” Persian Gulf States: Oman (Library of Congress, 1993).

10.  “Background information on the crisis in Iran,” Institute for Policy Studies, Washington DC, 1979 (http://www.irvl.net/USMI .htm).

11.  “Electricity in Iran” http://www.sedona.net/pahlavi/electric .html.

12.  Hermidas Bavand, interview with author, June 15, 2005, Tehran.

13.  Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), “Nuclear Chronology 1957 - 1985,” Iran Country Profile (www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/1825 _1826.html).

14.  Richard Helms, “Issues and Talking Points: Intensified Bilateral Cooperation,” Department of State Brief, Digital National Security Archive (http://nsarchive.chadwyck.com/marketing/index.jsp).

15.  Alexander Montgomery, Social Action: Rogue Reaction, Ph.D. thesis, Stanford University, Sept. 2005, p. 163.

16.  Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), “Nuclear Overview,” Iran Country Profile,  May 1, 2006 (www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/ Iran/index_1822.html). See also Sciolino, New York Times, June 22, 2003.

17.  Nuclear Threat Initiative.

18.  Sahimi interview.

19.  Linzer,  Washington Post. Also, Alfred L. Atherton, “Strategy for your visit to Iran,” confidential Department of State Briefing Memorandum, Oct. 20, 1974, in Digital National Security Archive (http://nsarchive.chadwyck.com/marketing/index.jsp).

20.  Mohamed ElBaradei, interview for radio documentary Lessons from Hiroshima 60 Years Later, Reese Erlich producer, May 2, 2005 (excerpts from the interview available online at www.peacetalks online.org/NoMoreHiroshima/HiroshimaSummary.htm).

21.  Montgomery, Ph.D. thesis, p. 159.

22.  Muhammad Sahimi, “Iran’s Nuclear Energy Program: Part IV,” Dec. 7, 2004, www.pavand.com. Sahimi points out that Iran’s oil production had declined from 5.8 million barrels per day in 1974 to 3.9 million in 2004, and that the oil fields are far more depleted today than during the shah’s time.

23.  Associated Press, “Iran Oil Revenue Quickly Drying Up, Analysis Says,” Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2006.

24.  William Broad and Elaine Sciolino, “Iran’s Secrecy Widens Gap in Nuclear Intelligence,” New York Times, May 19, 2006.

25.  Sahimi interview.

26.  Robert Collier, “Nuclear Weapons Unholy, Iran Says Islam Forbids Use, Clerics Proclaim,” San Francisco Chronicle, Oct. 31, 2003.

27.  Steve Coll, “The Atomic Emporium,” The New Yorker, Aug. 7 & 14, 2006.

28.  IAEA Director General’s Report, Implementation of the NPT Safeguards Agreement in the Islamic Republic of Iran, Aug. 31, 2006.

29.  William Broad and David E. Sanger, “Restraints Fray and Risks Grow As Nuclear Club Gains Members, New York Times, Oct. 15, 2006.

30.  Mark D. Skootsky, “US Nuclear Policy Toward Iran,” June 1, 1995, p. 3, http://people.csail.mit.edu/boris/iran-nuke.text.

31.  Dafna Linzer, “Iran Is Judged 10 Years from Nuclear Bomb,” Washington Post, Aug. 2, 2005.

32.  Greg Myre, “Abbas Repeats Call for Vote as Truce Erodes,” New York Times, Dec. 19, 2006.

33.  I explain the military issues between Iran and Israel in Chapter 3.

34.  George W. Bush, Rose Garden Press Conference, Apr. 28, 2006, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/04/print/2006 0428-2 .html.

35.  IAEA Director General’s Report.

36.  IAEA Director General’s Report.

37.  Elaine Sciolino, “Highly Enriched Uranium Is Found at an Iranian Plant,” New York Times, Sept. 1, 2006.

38.  Thom Shanker, “Security Council Votes to Tighten Iran Sanctions,” New York Times, Mar. 25, 2007.

39.  Associated Press wire report, Mar. 9, 2006, printed in Pocatello Idaho State Journal, Mar. 14, 2006.

40.  U.S. State Department, “State Sponsors of Terror Overview,” Country Reports on Terrorism, chapter 6, Apr. 28, 2006.

41.  William Broad and David E. Sanger, “Restraints Fray and Risks Grow as Nuclear Club Gains Members,” New York Times, Oct. 15, 2006.

42.  Some mainstream analysts advocate a similar negotiating position. Ray Takeyh, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, wrote “Time for Détente with Iran,” Foreign Affairs, Mar.-Apr. 2007, p. 29.

43.  Nuclear Age Peace Foundation, www.nuclearfiles.org.

44.  Muhammad Sahimi, “Iran’s Nuclear Energy Program: Part IV.” Sahimi estimates total nonnuclear alternative energy sources could meet 25 percent of Iran’s needs under current conditions.

45.  Norman Solomon, Sean Penn, and I interviewed dozens of Iranians we met on the street in June 2005. Not a single one opposed the development of nuclear power. The antinuclear-power position is equated with support for the United States. Absent U.S. threats, a real discussion could take place on the pros and cons of nuclear power.

46.  Akbar Ganji, interview with author, July 30, 2006, Berkeley CA.

47.  Muhammad Sahimi, “Iran’s Nuclear Energy Program: Part VI.”


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By Douglas Chalmers, December 13, 2007 at 3:57 pm Link to this comment

Think about Life, the meaning of Christmas, and the Caucasus as the cradle of European civilization. This clip is from Norther Iran - but the story is a warning…... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5PoedKBq-Y&feature=related

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By Jkoch, December 13, 2007 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment
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Aman asks: “What about when Iran declares to upcoming anihilation of Israel? Should we take that litteraly as well?”

Answer: Not a day goes by without half the Muslim world making some sort of grumble or fulmination against Israel.  Little will ever come of it.  Iran would be crazy to launch a first strike against Israel.  However, until Iran is convinced that the US or Israel is not about to attack it, it will crave a definitive deterrent.  Israelis know full well the implicit target of any Iranian counter-threat to US action, so one can understand their concern.  However, it is futile to think that Iran’s regime will cease to seek the one thing that would rid it of all the saber rattling.  Remember, the technology is over 60 years old, not all that hard to replicate, and virtually impossible to extricate from a regime that is smart enough to spread out the targets.  Finally, China and Russia will veto our actions if we swagger too much.  Obviously, China is too smart to meddle in Mideast occupations and focused more on buying oil wherever it can.

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By karim29007, December 11, 2007 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

Ref:Marshall
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“Personally, I’m glad the recent NIE indicated that Israel suspended its nuke program in 2003 because it may mean we have more time to settle the issue diplomatically.”

Well I am very glad that you are glad that “Israel” has suspended its NUKE PROGRAM IN 2003!!!

I FULLY AND UNCONDITIONALLY RECOMMEND Mr.Marshall’s point view!

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By karim29007, December 11, 2007 at 1:23 pm Link to this comment

“In an op-ed commentary, former secretary of state Henry Kissinger wrote, “For a major oil producer such as Iran, nuclear energy is a wasteful use of resources,” a position later cited approvingly by the Bush administration.”


Is this the same Kissinger that during the IRAN-IRAQ war stated that “ THE only regrettable thing about this war is that one day it will stop”!
(More than a MILLION IRANIANS LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE 8 –YEARS WAR).


Is this the same Kissinger that during SHAH’S REGIME was the main “pusher” to sell the GE & WESTING-HOUSE nuclear power plants products to Iran?

Is this the same Kissinger that provided the Shah with all the necessary fusion materials?

Is this the same Kissinger that supplied SADDAM with CHEMICAL WEAPONS to be used against the Iraqis and Iranians?

Is this the same Kissinger that supplied SADDAM with every feasible military hardware and equipment to prolong the said imposed war on IRAN?

Is the same Kissinger and Associates, as one of the most ardent Zionist, still carries out the wishes of consolidated Zionost consortium with AIPAC as their CEO? 

Some people use the excuse of amnesia as a substitute for their evil deeds.

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By cyrena, December 5, 2007 at 10:32 pm Link to this comment

#117899 by 1drees

1drees,
My pleasure. I’m not always useful, but when I can be, that’s what these forums are supposed to be about. Thing is, we’re living in some really hostile times these days. And, since we probably both remember earlier bad times, we also know this is about as bad as it’s EVER been.

And then, there’s the internet. Which exposes us all, to people that we wouldn’t necessarily have been previously exposed, and because things are so bad, people get pissed when they hear stuff they don’t really wanna hear.

So they either paranoid, (which is semi understandable, since there’s been nothing but lies, lies, and more lies for so long now, and they aren’t exactly ‘little ones’) or they blame the messenger. I’ve gotten used to it now.

But, I’m like you, in that I’ll remember stuff from reading long ago, (since I’ve always done that) but I certainly don’t have anything close to ‘total recall’. So, the ONLY reason that I know at least some of this stuff now, is only because of returning to academia after a long career in something entirely different. (and now, I probably wouldn’t remember half of THAT stuff). Still, since returning, I’ve been studying all of this stuff again, so I have a more ‘refreshed’ knowledge of it. And, it helps that we can save the articles and journals and research work so easily now. I can’t imagine having to dig through the stacks the way I would have done in the old days, in order to verify something half-remembered. If that were the case, it would just have to stay ‘half-remembered’. wink

Still, after a certain period of time on these posts, you get to figure out that most folks are reasonally pissed of in general, for the same reasons we all are. And others…well, what can I say?

So, don’t sweat the small stuff. As long as YOU know what you’re talking about, that’s all that matters. smile

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By Marshall, December 5, 2007 at 1:26 am Link to this comment

#117917 by Non Credo on 12/04 at 9:55 am

I don’t think it’s a secret that Israel is more concerned about Iranian nukes than even the US.  Focus groups are used by organizations across the political spectrum to test market their arguments.  It doesn’t mean they don’t genuinely believe in their cause.

I don’t support immediate military action against Iran, but I’m not the least bit surprised that those who do would try and refine their arguments for it.  Just because I disagree doesn’t mean they don’t have that right.

Personally, I’m glad the recent NIE indicated that Israel suspended its nuke program in 2003 because it may mean we have more time to settle the issue diplomatically.

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By lastdaywatchers, December 4, 2007 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

Marshall, DSmith, Cyrena, Sophrosyne, Douglas Chalmers, Ender and 1Drees if you guys (and gals) want to really “truthdig” with 100% accuracy on what really happening with Iran who will get the BOMB (but don’t worry they want use it)

With Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey and the greater Middle East

Then let me suggest that you all come up to speed on the May 15th Prophecy

Do a Google search of the May 15th Prophecy and you will see for yourself (that is if you have eye to see)

Or go to
http://lastdaywatchers.blogspot.com/

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By 1drees, December 4, 2007 at 8:48 am Link to this comment
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CYRENA :

THANX, I know things through years of reading regularly BUT NEVER THOUGHT that i’d have to provide references from the daily newpapers and journals i read everyday for ages.
Especially chemical names and then company names are specific data which are quiet hard to remember over long term.
THANX for everything

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By ender, December 4, 2007 at 7:28 am Link to this comment

Analysts recognized that “civilian” helicopters can be weaponized in a matter of hours and selling a civilian kit can be a way of giving military aid under the guise of civilian assistance.[8] Shortly after removing Iraq from the terrorism sponsorship list, the Reagan administration approved the sale of 60 Hughes helicopters.[9] Later, and despite some objections from the National Security Council (NSC), the Secretaries of Commerce and State (George Baldridge and George Shultz) lobbied the NSC advisor into agreeing to the sale to Iraq of 10 Bell helicopters,[10] officially for crop spraying. See “1988” for note on Iraq using U.S. Helicopters to spray Kurds with chemical weapons.

Woodwards novel also had a picture of Americans that definately did not look like farm equiptment salesmen training Iraqi miliary in the use of the Bell choppers.  Does anyone believe that the Iraqi military sprayed crops for catapillars?

Rumsfeld worked for Reagan.  He knew Saddam had WMD back then…he sold them to him.

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By cyrena, December 4, 2007 at 4:55 am Link to this comment

#117700 by Marshall on 12/03 at 10:35 am
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#117670 by 1drees on 12/03 at 8:40 am

“IRAQ used American supplied chemical weapons quiet frequently as per American provided directions.”

The US did not supply chemical weapons to Iraq.  Early on, the US did supply materials, called “precursors”, which could be used in the production of chemical weapons as well as non-military applications.  But no evidence exists that Iran actually weaponized any of these precursors.  Iraq built its own chemical weapons program from the ground up.
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There were actually a few of them Marshall, but one of the ones that Saddam used most lavishly on the Kurds was plain old MUSTARD gas…provided by Donny Rumsfeld himself. That I remember from documents. I’ll see if I can find out the others for you.

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By 1drees, December 4, 2007 at 4:00 am Link to this comment
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MARSHALL:
As you might know that the present American Regime is NOT-AT-ALL-INNOCENT BUT TRUST me once their tenure is through this very same guy will be DECORATED for his initiatives in Peace making and who knows he might even be nominated for the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE atleast ( as was Bill Clinton after he had been calmed down into a better pro-Israel stance via the Monica Lewinsky affair, monica’s handler was linda tripp)

And also NOTE , MANY Americans are talking of Convictions and such but I CAN GUARANTEE YOU that none of these “World Proven War Criminals ” will ever be prosecuted or convicted , as all of their crimes are very much “legitimised” through various channels.

My sources of information are what I have been reading over the last atleast 20 years ( being an avid reader of World affairs since a very long time and used to read atleast 2 newspapers a day plus the weeklies and etc)

So Comming to what I was trying to say was that the Reagan Administration ( who also introduced the concept of the NEW-WORLD-ORDER, if you might recollect) was, like I said before, DYING to damage IRAN at all costs and in that project which was being followed with MADDENING DEDICATION ( you might even find photos of Rumsfeld with Saddam during many of his special visits to IRAQ as another indicator, if you can accept indicators and understand the then mad rush to destroy IRAN then), they simply bent a lot of rules LEGALLY , like i said, known and proven weapons utilities were given false certifications to get the stuff past the DOPES/STOOGES in congress and other relative offices. IRAQ was provided the DEADLIEST TECHNOLOGY available and then the best chemical weapons were US and they were supplied other wise how did your govt in 2003 know the exact quantities to look for? nope it was not the UN weapons inspectors that were sources. (Although most of the UN weapons Inspectors were actually covertly on the US payroll. smile )

OK maybe today you cant find any exact proof to satisfy your curiosity Mr Marshall BUT these are well known facts that USA used to sent EVERYTHING ASAP and in that era they were shipping everything and IRAQ was being helped to the MAXIMUM, anything it would ask for it would get really soon, no matter what papers had to be prepared and no matter how the papers had to be prepared. USA armed that soviet block country to the hilt in its madness to damage IRAN, I mean the SCUD carrying extra heavy duty trucks (which were known weapons capabililty and were not usually offered to many other allies) were papered as “agricultural equipment” and passed on.
If you were not reading then what was going on, then what can I say, other than that if you still believe certain concepts such as “how can our governement be involved in the murder of so many of us? its impossible!” then maybe you will never ever be able to see the truth, till you let the truth seep in.
UPTO YOU, read around on the web and you will see what “the good ol’ USA” been upto for ages.
Its just that none of the American Journals ever covered anything that was damaging to any regime in power.
About anthrax used after 9/11, guess where it came from? and the Chemical weapons US forces were looking for? guess how US govt knew that they existed? coz they supplied them, and they forgot to mention that those components supplied were expired and had no chemical weapons value any longer BUT telling the people that there was a “GRAVE DANGER” served the purpose so it was said so.
I cant argue or convince you but you might find better details from the videos of EX-CIA operatives etc on the youtube.com. I seen alot of them maybe you should try to find them too.
Like they say in the X-files, the truth is out there.
If you want to argue with me all your life , that is your choice but I dont have the time or the will.

Ciao. smile

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By Marshall, December 4, 2007 at 12:05 am Link to this comment

#117737 by 1drees on 12/03 at 1:06 pm

I don’t deny that Iraq was an ally of the US until the Kuwait invasion, and that the US supplied intelligence during the Iran/Iraq war.  But there’s no evidence, unless you’d like to cite some, that Iraq weaponized any of the pesticides or other chemicals it bought from the US.

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By 1drees, December 3, 2007 at 2:06 pm Link to this comment
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MARSHALL:
Sir, Sorry to inform you but you are certainly NOT SO INFORMED ABOUT THE RECENT WARS and certainly not about the IRAN-IRAQ war.
I certainly do not mean to offend you or Argue with any one, BUT MY FACTS & UNDERSTANDING (based on NON-USA MSM, And you know what US MSM reports otherwise you’d never be on these pages at all) is way way different than yours maybe due to different sources of information.
If it was not US manufactured then it was the US approved manufacturers that were beckoned into dealing with IRAQ(a then SOVIET BLOCK ALLY) AND MAYBE YOU ARE GOING TO CONFLICT ME IN THE FACT THAT DURING THAT WAR AMERICA EVEN SUPPLIED INTELLIGENCE REPORTS ABOUT THE IRANIAN PREPARATIONS & ADVISE AS TO HOW TO NEUTRALISE THAT preparation, I MEAN THE ADMINISTRATION HAD PERMITTED EXPORT OF PRODUCTS WITH KNOWN & PROVEN WEAPONS VALUE AND USED THE NON-WEAPONS CERTIFICATIONS JUST TO BE ABLE GET IT PAST THE DOPES/STOOGES IN CONGRESS & OTHER OFFICES TO GET IT TO SADDAM ASAP.
IN THOSE YEARS AMERICANS WERE “DYING” TO NEUTRALIZE THE IRANIANS AND THERE SEEMED NO LIMIT THAT THERE WERE NOT GOING TO “BEND” IF NOT BREAK.

See

http://www.counterpunch.org/boles1010.html

and that might shed some light to clarify your concepts.


BEST WISHES, HAPPY HUNTING FOR THE TRUTH.


#117700 by Marshall on 12/03 at 10:35 am

#117670 by 1drees on 12/03 at 8:40 am

“IRAQ used American supplied chemical weapons quiet frequently as per American provided directions.”

The US did not supply chemical weapons to Iraq.  Early on, the US did supply materials, called “precursors”, which could be used in the production of chemical weapons as well as non-military applications.

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By sophrosyne, December 3, 2007 at 2:02 pm Link to this comment
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Good article.  It is so difficult to be an intelligent voter in America when so much is hidden from us by our own government.  One has to assume Bush lies at every opportunity and the lack of trust is erroding our democracy.

USA slavery to israel’s interests is extemely damaging to us and we continue to let it happen.

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By Douglas Chalmers, December 3, 2007 at 12:16 pm Link to this comment

Quote: “Top Democratic and Republican leaders absolutely believe that Iran is planning to develop nuclear weapons. And one of their seemingly strongest arguments involves a process of deduction. Since Iran has so much oil, they argue, why develop nuclear power…”

That Democrats and Republicans are in on this game, as we know, points top the fact that they are all still being used and manipulated as mere mouthpieces by the military-industrial complex as well as a wider agenda of financial interests globally.

Even Obama was on about this in the past couple of days with misleading remarks about “countries with extractive industries”....... But, the article is now almost out of date:-

Intel: Iran Halted Nuke Program in 2003 -  (WASHINGTON) — “Iran halted its nuclear weapons development program in the fall of 2003 under international pressure but is continuing to enrich uranium, which means it may still be able to develop a weapon between 2010 and 2015, senior intelligence officials said Monday…. That finding, in a new National Intelligence Estimate on Iran, is a change from two years ago…” http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1690189,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

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By dsmith, December 3, 2007 at 11:38 am Link to this comment
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If Israel is pushing for the bombing of Iran, let them do it!

Let Israeli mothers and fathers do the weeping for a while as the dead bodies of their sons come home in body bags.

Let their hospitals become loaded with men whose facial features have been burned off.

Let them become the hated war mongers around the world. (Neocon Norman Podhoretz, adviser to Rudy, says he is praying, that’s right praying for the US to attack Iran so that the US will be hated as much as Israel.) What an ally these Israeli/Americans are.

But of course, Zionist fanatics like Kissinger, Podhoretz, Goldberg, Krauthammer, Kristol would rather fight against defenseless people like the Palestinians. In the case of Iran they definately want the goys to do it. You see…Jews are the chosen poeple.

What a crock!

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By Marshall, December 3, 2007 at 11:35 am Link to this comment

#117670 by 1drees on 12/03 at 8:40 am

“IRAQ used American supplied chemical weapons quiet frequently as per American provided directions.”

The US did not supply chemical weapons to Iraq.  Early on, the US did supply materials, called “precursors”, which could be used in the production of chemical weapons as well as non-military applications.  But no evidence exists that Iran actually weaponized any of these precursors.  Iraq built its own chemical weapons program from the ground up.

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By lastdaywatchers, December 3, 2007 at 10:57 am Link to this comment

When decussing the subject of Iran, you would be wise to know the times we are living in and the time that is yet to come!

The May 15th Prophecy is the only source that has given with 100% accuracy the information and detail with regard to Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey and the greater Middle East.

And here are a few excerpts of what the May 15th Prophecy has to say about IRAN

Posted on 06/13/07 - “Ahmadinejad says destruction of Israel is close”
By The Associated Press

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Sunday the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

Ahmadinejad said last summer’s war between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon showed for the first time hegemony of the occupier regime [Israel] collapsed and that pushed the button counting the days until the destruction of Zionist regime, IRNA quoted him as saying.

uproot #1 Iraq

Iraq’s al-Sadr harbors ambitious plans
By HAMZA HENDAWI and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers Tue May 22, 2:59 PM ET

“Much of the Sadrists’ resolve to create an Islamic society, according to the lawmakers and aides, has to do with the movement’s strong messianic convictions. In Shiite terms, this translates into making society sufficiently pure for the return of the so-called Hidden Imam, a descendant of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad who disappeared as a child in the 9th century. Shiites believe he will return one day to bring justice to Earth.”

“The hidden imam is our savior,” said Amer al-Husseini, a cleric and a senior aide to al-Sadr in Baghdad. “We need to prepare for his return, both ideologically and practically.”

More from the May 15th Prophecy posted on 07/03/07

“Therefore Iran is not part of the 10 horn that were in the head of the dreadful beast(Rome)

But Iran is “up among them” horn

Iran is “The other which came up, and before whom three fell”
Chapter 7 verse 20

Iran is the bear with “three rib in it month between the teeth of it”

Iran is “behold there shall stand up yet three king in Persia” chapter 11 verse 2

Iran is the “Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the
glory of the kingdom” chapter 11 verse 20

That a description of the monarchy rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran

“He shall be destroyed, neither in anger nor in battle” verse 20

That a description of his fall to the revolution led by Ayatollah Khomeini to replace the monarchy with a Islamic Republic controled by the mallahs.

It is that religious mallah government rule that Daniel is refering to when he says

“And in his estate shall stand up a vile person”

That vile person is the Anti-Christ

And just like he did with Alexander the Great he will do with Anti-Christ by starting off in one place before moving his capital and headquarters to Iraq.

He will do this through the “estate” of the religious Iranian mullah government position (now occupied by Ayatollah Khamenei) when he comes as the Hidden Imam.”

and posted on 07/12/07

“The May 15th Prophecy also pointed you to the fact in Iran who was once ruled by Kingly Monarchy and that was replaced by a religious mullah Islamic republic and it is from that “estate” the Anti-Christ will “rise” from to assume power from Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, not the exile Monarchy rule of the kingly line of Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, to fulfill the scripture of Daniel chapter 11 verse 21

“And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give honour of the kingdom”

The Septuagint (Charles Thomson) translate the verse even more precisely

“A contemptible creature will succeed but will not be given recognition as king”

The Anti-Christ will immediately step into the power seat of Iraq created by the Ummah and then will be given power and authority in Lebanon and Syria who will cry “ Mahdi, Mahdi, Mahdi”.

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By 1drees, December 3, 2007 at 9:40 am Link to this comment
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It might a few people if they knew a couple of International facts that the US MSM press maybe “forgets” to mention and that is When the Iranian revolutions was still red hot and the grand Ayatollah ( who I am sure has always been labelled as the raving madman by the MSM )was leading the REVOLUTION, he had decided & DECLARED ( yes he was the decider) that IRAN or any shiite will never use NUCLEAR weapons as that weapon kept on killing long after it was discharged. and hence similarly chemical weapons were also despised nd it ws sworn tht they will be enver used and then during the IRAN-IRAQ war IRAN never used the weapons even when IRAQ used American supplied chemical weapons quiet frequently as per American provided directions.
Also you will note tht th current IRANIAN presidents most statements are interrupted by the MSM reporters and then his statements are often ignored and interrupted so that he is unable to convey his sttements over the MSM because that would hamper the ZIONIST pplans for the next few WARS that are required for the NEW WORLD ORDER.
LONG LIVE THE LIES OF the USA AND HOPEFULLY MAY SOME PEOPLE REALISE THAT “AS YOU SOW SO SHALL YOU REAP”

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By aman, December 3, 2007 at 9:31 am Link to this comment
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“Today when Iran demands that it be able to enrich uranium for nuclear power purposes, under strict international supervision, the United States says that’s proof Iran wants to develop nuclear weapons.” - What about when Iran declares to upcoming anihilation of Israel? Should we take that litteraly as well?

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