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The offending image: “South Park” characters surround a bear-suit-clad Muhammad in the 200th episode of the cable cartoon.

They’re no strangers to controversy after years of fine-tuning the art of contrarian cartooning, but “South Park” masterminds Trey Parker and Matt Stone are now the recipients of an ominous message posted on the Islamic website revolutionmuslim.com, accompanied by an image of murdered Dutch director Theo van Gogh, warning of possible consequences of their typically cheeky depiction of the Prophet Muhammad in a recent episode of their show.  —KA

Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

The site says in an entry posted Thursday that the authors of the irreverent cable show, Matt Stone and Trey Parker, could wind up like Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh. He was killed by a radical Islamist in 2004 after making a movie that featured a beaten, naked Muslim woman covered in writings from the Quran.

The post includes a photograph of van Gogh with a knife protruding from his chest.

“We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show,” says the site, revolutionmuslim.com. “This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them.”

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By Liquor Store Larry, May 17, 2010 at 3:27 pm Link to this comment

What an incredible surprise! After Moslems blow up discos in Bali, Pizza parlors in Israel, train stations in Barcelona, hotels full of Hindus in India, theaters full of hostages in Moscow, fly planes into buildings in New York, torch embassies over cartoons in Europe, blow up Buddhist antiquities in Afghanistan and shoot kneeling woman through the head in Afghan soccer stadiums, murder Olympic athletes, hijack planes to Idi Amin’s Uganda, push cripples in wheelchairs off ships in the ocean, and when they run out of Jews and Christians and Hindus to murder they murder each other, naturally I am stunned to find them threatening violence against the makers of a cartoon.

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By stcfarms, April 27, 2010 at 11:57 am Link to this comment

Actually it has been proven many times over, millions of species through the
eons have been devastated by over population. Although it is true that the
green revolution has temporarily increased the food supply there are many
reasons to believe that it will not continue. The chemicals that kill off the pests
and weeds have also destroyed the worms, nematodes and nitrogen fixing
bacteria. We will not be able to use petroleum to make these chemicals for
much longer as the it will become cost prohibitive. You may be right that I will
not be around, if I live as long as the average in my family I can only look
forward to another 35 or so healthy years, a drop in the bucket by geological
time standards.

I am glad that I could provide you with some comic relief concerning my
island. You should know that I spent 12 years in the Navy and am quite
comfortable on the ocean. As a jack of all trades for the last 45 years I will
have no trouble building a self sufficient island. Having grown up on a self
sufficient dairy farm it will be easy to grow the food that we need. With 6,000
cubic yards of virgin prairie soil full of worms et cetera we will be able to raise
all of the heirloom veggies that we need. As insects and weeds do not exist on
the deep ocean we will have no need for chemicals to kill them.

I sincerely hope that I am wrong about the fate of mankind but I am not dumb
enough to bet against history.

By jay1953, April 27 at 1:21 pm #

So far Malthusian theory hasn’t borne fruit. On the contrary as the food supply
has grown so has the population. So far Malthus’s bottleneck has grown
exponentially to accommodate the population not the other way around. Are
there people at the bottleneck hungry and starving? Yes, it has always been
that way. But the bottleneck gets bigger and bigger. The population grows and
grows. Will there be an equilibrium where the population will level off?
Perhaps. Will the population crash? Given an unforeseen catastrophe of global
dimensions most probably. Will it confirm Malthus’s theory, I think not. His
theory so far has been disproven. It’s like predicting or theorizing that you will
die someday and call it an innovative theory. Everything dies there is nothing
theoretical about that. Which brings us back full circle to the beginning of our
conversation. We are all in this together so in “theory” we are all brothers. By
the way I don’t think you’ll be around long enough for your little island to do
you any good. But if it feels good, do it man. You got my support.

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By jay1953, April 27, 2010 at 9:23 am Link to this comment

Part I

Great. I agree with most of what you say. I believe that there are some areas where we may agree more than disagree. Disagreement based not so much on principle but rather based more on our different set of facts and the perspectives caused from differing experiences.

I see that you identify yourself as Ojibwe and I commend you and your people for maintaining their cultural identity. As I have elaborated here it is not the case in much of Latin America where the deculturalization process has resulted in the loss of native people’s identity, language and culture. As I have elaborated in previous posts these events have led to majorities in Latin America to identify themselves as white for the purposes of census and demographics, genetic studies tell another story. A story that is repeated in North America with the difference that there were more surviving Amerindian descendants to the south of the Rio Grande than there where to the north. These are undeniable facts that can not be spun any other way, fundamentally these facts remain.

I will address your points because I believe you’ve made some good and profound ones. I understand you may not agree with my assessment, but that’s okay. I’ll expound them here anyway:

We are all related as far back as blue green algae, that does not make us
brothers.

We are not brothers of the same womb. But metaphorically speaking we are all brothers. We all come from the same substances and where evolved in the same way. We are all stardust as the song says. We are brothers all of the same family, the human family. Sounds corny and romantic but I believe this. There is more that joins us that separates us.

Thanks to the divorce courts I found myself divided between two
worlds, spending half of my time in each world. The Ojibwe world values truth
above all, the white world values a belief in an imaginary being that is the
basis of most of the violence in the world.

I agree with your assessment of the “white” world wholeheartedly. Truth is a lost commodity. Superstition is irrefutable truth. The truth is molded to fit an agenda. Here in the US we live in very Orwellian times.

I will concede the point that we will probably never retake the stolen land.

That is tragic from a human perspective. Nature has a way of sorting life out. Some day long after we are no longer here there will be a one American people descended from all of us. So your descendants, as will mine and all of us will have their land. Time and nature will solve that problem.

I for one do not want it back as it has become so polluted that it will sustain life for many more years anyway.

The earth has a way to heal the damage. Humanity may not survive that healing but heal it will.

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By jay1953, April 27, 2010 at 9:22 am Link to this comment

Part II

I have met Jews all over the world but not one Zionist, they have never
cheated me or mistreated me in any way.

I have grown up with Jews, they are my friends. I’ve gone to school with them, shared their celebrations and their sorrows. Laughed with them and also cried with them. Some of them Zionists and they are quite normal and reasonable. It is paradoxical that these same people have no problem in their support of the bombing of Palestinian civilian centers where innocent civilians are killed and maimed and then coldly classified just collateral damage. It’s criminal. Much the same way that whites in Colorado supported the Sand Creek massacre of Native Americans. There are undeniable parallels. There is nothing wrong with Jews in Palestine, what I condemn is what they have done to the Palestinians which amounts to genocide and ethnic cleansing much the same way it happened in the Americas. So Zionism if it only means people of the Jewish faith living peacefully in Palestine alongside Palestinians I see nothing wrong with that. Extremist fundamentalist Zionist is doing right at this very moment to the Palestinians what Andrew Jackson did to the Cherokee tribes to give you just one example. You know sometimes when I think of Hitler’s assault on the east I think that he was trying to accomplish what we here in the US accomplished in the 1800s in the west and what Israel is doing in Palestine.


I have also met muslims and christians all over the world, I always have to watch my back when I am around them.

I was indoctrinated in the Christian religion from birth. But I recall rejecting it since I could reason. I reject the idea of a deity in the Judeo-Christian model. Perhaps I can accept Einstein’s model more readily. I agree with you about Christians, I do not trust them either. I speak from personal experience. There is a profound hypocritical aspect to Christianity as there probably is with all religions. The dogma that Christians are not perfect just forgiven sends chills of fear down my spine. That is a dangerous mindset and a license to do the most egregious of acts with no consequence since you just get up in the morning pray for forgiveness and start over with a clean slate to repeat your egregious acts. That is the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

As for Muslims, I personally have had very positive experiences with the few I have known. They have been trustworthy, honest, and respectful. Of course I’m sure there are exceptions as there is everything. I in no way believe they were like that because of their religion. Culture and humanity has more to do with it and like a parasite religion attempts to take credit for the benevolent aspects of a culture and its people.

Your undying support for the invaders of the world (past and present)
insults your Indian wife who must be suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.
Perhaps you should meet some muslims before you glorify them.

I don’t know which invaders you are referring to that I have undying support for. I don’t support any invaders so I’ll just conclude that you’re making assumptions in regards to me based on your ignorance. I only support truth, justice, life and humane principles. As to an insult to my wife Indian ancestry, on the contrary I have made her aware of her ancestry as I have done my children. So this is a cheap shot but I’ll forgive you for your ignorance since you don’t personally know me. As for your Stockholm syndrome, it is a good analogy but I would extend that to most Amerindian peoples that have resigned themselves to what has been involuntarily imposed on them. I do not glorify Muslims or any religion, my defense of the Palestinian plight is purely based on the principles of justice and humanity, not religion. I despise religion. Religion has nothing to do with it since I’m probably as an irreligious person that you can ever meet.

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By jay1953, April 27, 2010 at 9:21 am Link to this comment

Part III

The Indian wars are no more my cause than the war in Israel, land is not worth
dyeing for.

Sounds like resignation. Perhaps you’re unknowingly suffering from your own condition of the Stockholm syndrome as your previous analogy suggests.

Fortunately I can afford to build a floating, self sufficient island for
my French/Irish girlfriend of 40 years and myself. We will be living on the
ocean when your civilization crashes so I really do not have a dog in this fight.

A little comedic relief doesn’t hurt the conversation. Will you be living on top or on the bottom of the ocean? That is good that you have French/Irish girlfriend, now what can we do to accelerate more mixed race couples, like you and me. Like I told you before the only way to peace and racial harmony is to f*ck ourselves there. Now if we can only get the Israelis and Palestinians to start f*cking each other in massive numbers we can have peace in the Middle East, even the world. Ah, but yes religion is an obstacle, isn’t it?

While you studied the cultures of the world I chose to study science. Malthus
was right about populations and while you silly humans fight over the
remaining resources the Malthusian bottleneck draws near. Perhaps only 1 in
200 genetic lines will pass through, none of this will matter then.

So far Malthusian theory hasn’t borne fruit. On the contrary as the food supply has grown so has the population. So far Malthus’s bottleneck has grown exponentially to accommodate the population not the other way around. Are there people at the bottleneck hungry and starving? Yes, it has always been that way. But the bottleneck gets bigger and bigger. The population grows and grows. Will there be an equilibrium where the population will level off? Perhaps. Will the population crash? Given an unforeseen catastrophe of global dimensions most probably. Will it confirm Malthus’s theory, I think not. His theory so far has been disproven. It’s like predicting or theorizing that you will die someday and call it an innovative theory. Everything dies there is nothing theoretical about that. Which brings us back full circle to the beginning of our conversation. We are all in this together so in “theory” we are all brothers. By the way I don’t think you’ll be around long enough for your little island to do you any good. But if it feels good, do it man. You got my support.

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By stcfarms, April 26, 2010 at 9:32 pm Link to this comment

We are all related as far back as blue green algae, that does not make us
brothers. Thanks to the divorce courts I found myself divided between two
worlds, spending half of my time in each world. The Ojibwe world values truth
above all, the white world values a belief in an imaginary being that is the
basis of most of the violence in the world. I will concede the point that we will
probably never retake the stolen land. I for one do not want it back as it has
become so polluted that it will sustain life for many more years anyway.

I have met Jews all over the world but not one Zionist, they have never
cheated me or mistreated me in any way. I have also met muslims and
christians all over the world, I always have to watch my back when I am around
them. Your undieing support for the invaders of the world (past and present)
insults your Indian wife who must be suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.
Perhaps you should meet some muslims before you glorify them.

The Indian wars are no more my cause than the war in Israel, land is not worth
dieing for. Fortunately I can afford to build a floating, self sufficient island for
my French/Irish girlfriend of 40 years and myself. We will be living on the
ocean when your civilization crashes so I really do not have a dog in this fight.
While you studied the cultures of the world I chose to study science. Malthus
was right about populations and while you silly humans fight over the
remaining resources the Malthusian bottleneck draws near. Perhaps only 1 in
200 genetic lines will pass through, none of this will matter then.

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By jay1953, April 26, 2010 at 4:00 pm Link to this comment

Debating me is not your biggest problem, you have more than enough trouble
debating math and history.

You call what you’re doing debate. What a joke. Now you’re getting into delusional territory.

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By jay1953, April 26, 2010 at 3:57 pm Link to this comment

No guilt, I’ve made my peace. Seems like you haven’t.

You couldn’t even refute my post.

Part I

Its shameful for you to compare Amerindians to Zionist Jews. What an insult to Amerindians. You should be comparing Zionist Jews to the white Europeans that exterminated the indigenous people of the Americas, not just physically but culturally. That is a more appropriate comparison.

The Indian Wars are over, deal with it. Both sides lost. One side lost most of its members the other side lost its soul. As far as Latin America is concerned it is f*cking itself into racial uniformity, much as we are doing here in the land of “equality”. So you can say we are screwing our way to racial harmony. In 300-500 years Americans will be one race, a new race, a non-white race. So your little Indian War will be obsolete. There will be no one to fight an Indian War, you’ll have to find a new cause.

Today the few pure Amerindians that are left, pure means not just genetically but also culturally,  supposedly number about 10% in Latin America. The rest have been deculturalized in spite of having genetic Amerindian purity to differing degrees of from pure genetically to nearly no mestizaje. The whites and blacks that are left are significant minorities. From the blacks we can take out the mulattoes which are mixed white and black, the Indian and black mixtures, the mestizo and black mixtures, it is a medley that is almost endless. I know that here in the US mixed white and black is categorized as black, but that is not exactly accurate. Why not white? Many mestizo Hispanics consider their race as white, that is not accurate either. The deculturalization process in Latin America has been mostly by the effect of Christianity’s centuries old proselytizing missionary assault.

As for me I’m married to an Amerindian woman from South America, very little mestizaje, she’s almost pure Amerindian. So my kids are mestizo one looks white the other has Amerindian features. According to the Genographic project her DNA shows that her Haplogroup migrated to the Americas perhaps 60,000 years ago which was one of the 1st migrations into the Americas. Knowing that my kids carry that genetic marker of the first Amerindians to inhabit America is something that I feel particularly proud of as I do for my choice of wife.

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By jay1953, April 26, 2010 at 3:56 pm Link to this comment

Part II

For you to say that most Latin American are not mixed with Indian is quite ignorant on your part. Most mestizos considered themselves white since being Amerindian or mestizo carries a stigma left over from the Iberian conquest. Many countries in Latin America do no have mestizo as a choice, not that many people would choose that. This is the cultural reality of which I’m intimately aware of. So you’ll get a figure saying that perhaps 40% of Latin-Americans consider themselves erroneously as white. In other words genetically pure Europeans. This is wrong because most mis-categorize their race and not intentionally, they really believe that what they think they are.

I have a friend with a German surname from Mendoza Argentina. He is a brown person with clear indigenous but fine features. Now he never thought himself as a German because he didn’t fit the profile of a fair skinned German. So would tell everyone he was Italian because of his dark swarthy features. He did his DNA profile out of curiosity turns out that he was Amerindian descended from a local tribe that had disappeared called the Huarpes indigenous to the area he lived in. Same thing with another friend, he turned out to be Guarani and all his life he thought he was from French ancestry because of his surname. This narrative repeats itself throughout Latin America millions of times over and over.

Even though I’m of European ancestry, according to my DNA, like all of humanity’s ancestry Haplogroup migrated out of Africa some 10thousand years ago and we all have genetic ties the Fertile Crescent which today’s Palestine is a part of. So cherry picked DNA can prove that we all can be genetically placed at one time or other through the Middle East lands since it was one of humanities primary migratory routes out of Africa to populate the world. We can all be connected to the middle east.

Enough for today’s lesson.

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By stcfarms, April 26, 2010 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

Debating me is not your biggest problem, you have more than enough trouble
debating math and history.

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By jay1953, April 26, 2010 at 2:24 pm Link to this comment

???

Huh?? (in Scooby Doo)

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By stcfarms, April 26, 2010 at 2:20 pm Link to this comment

You must harbor an incredible amount of guilt to defend the indefensible. BTW
the Indian wars are not over.

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By jay1953, April 26, 2010 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

llk

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By jay1953, April 26, 2010 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment

Part I

If Viejo is indian he would say so.

If my statement is not true let him contradict me himself.

Most Latin Americans are not mixed with
Indians.

Yes they are. Come on be realistic. In 1800 the population of Spain was barely 10 million, Portugal was barely 2 million. As you know Central and South America and much of the Caribbean was conquered and colonized by Spain and Brazil by Portugal. You are going to argue that these 2 countries whose combined population in 1800 was barely 12 million seeded what is today a population of 570 million people when they today barely surpass 55 million in their home country. Yours is a ludicrous argument. 77% of Latin Americans have some degree of Mestizo mixture to one degree or another. Even the whitest countries like Argentina and Chile you’ll find people classified as white for census purposes but are actually mestizo mixtures of varying degrees. They may look white European but they are not. I personally know a guy who looks like your average run of the mill cracker (blondish hair, blue eyes, white skin, freckles) and he showed me a picture of his great grandmother and she was born a slave and as black as a piece of coal. There are also many whites in the southern US of mixed Amerindian ancestry, such as Cherokee, and they look just as white as any immigrant coming in from Liverpool.

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By jay1953, April 26, 2010 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment

Part II

If you require proof that Jews owned the land you need only look at the Roman records of 70 AD. If you need proof that today’s Jews are descended from the ancient Jews you need only look at their inherited diseases and DNA.

Complete bunk. DNA studies have been inconclusive as proof since the studies has been manipulated, in other words cherry picked to fit the Zionist narrative. This has been exposed by geneticist at Israeli Universities. If the studies were to be really inclusive, not cherry-picked, it would make Palestinians, Syrians, Jordanians, Iraqis, Kurds, Iranians all classified as Jews. So genetics doesn’t prove religious affiliation.

Language disproves the hypothesis you are espousing here. Ask yourself the following questions and then let common sense answer them for you. Why was Aramaic the language of Palestine throughout most of history? Wasn’t Aramaic the common language in Palestine during the time of Jesus? It is said that Jesus’ native language was Aramaic. Were not a significant portion, if not most, of the Old Testament books written in Aramaic instead of Hebrew? Was not most portions of the Talmud written in Aramaic? Again, why not in Hebrew? the supposed language of the Jews?

Aramaic is the common language introduced by the Phoenicians that preceded the Hebrews, and other nomadic tribes, into Canaan today known as Palestine. The New Testament, as was most of the Old Testament, were originally written in Aramaic not Hebrew, this is a historical fact that raises many more questions, doubts on the biblical version, about Jewish history and its authenticity . Obviously the Hebrews had to learn Aramaic if they were to get on with the other tribes in Canaan. Of course when the Judean tribe become separated from the rest of the Hebrew tribes by conquest of Canaan they were already speaking Aramaic.

The Hebrew conquest of Canaan was not a conquest at all but a migration of nomadic herding tribes into the area that probably warred with other nomadic tribes already there. Sort of like a ranch war were differing groups compete, sometimes violently, for grazing and water resources. In this scenario of course there would be alliances among differing tribes.

Common sense would tell you that the Hebrew and their offshoots the Jews were not this Kingdom that they purport they were but just one of the many wandering nomadic tribes that lived in the area with others that had to speak the local common language, Aramaic, to get along with their neighbours just as much as a Korean immigrant to the US would have to learn English today to get along with their neighbours. Could you imagine 2000 years from now that a group claim questionable Korean ancestry and claim San Francisco as their long lost kingdom? That is as insane as what the Zionists have done but they have the murderous irrationality of religious belief as their proof.
But of course religious belief defies reason and I don’t pretend to reason with a believer.


If you are uncomfortable with history have the Texas school board change it for you.

No wonder you believe what you believe, you learned your history in Texas. I believe Texas is in the process of changing they’re textbooks, again, to some radical Christian revisionist version, not in a positive way. Are you going to believe the new version put out by the Texas school board too? Gullibility?

Well that wraps up your lesson for today in rational and critical thinking.

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By RenZo, April 26, 2010 at 11:56 am Link to this comment

@ stcfarms

There is often a time limit on “justice” sometimes called statute of limitations. I think however that the theft of (home)land from indigenous peoples’ (‘first nations’ in Canada-speak) would have a few short months of validity as a crime, else the majority of the US landmass would be back in the hands of our first nations’ people (and better off no doubt). US “justice” cannot conceive of stealing land being a crime, because most of our laws (backwards into English history) are derived for, by, and of the RICH, LANDED GENTRY/ARISTOCRACY not the people people who make it grow food and support life.

And godforbid that the bible be used to justify laws in this country, as some would have it. We would be stoning half the US Congressmen for adultery, fornication, bestiality, lying with men, lying, lying with staffers,lying with boys, girls, servants, waitstaff, grabbing/tickling or groping staffers, et et et cetera. Not to mention the rest of us poor slobs.

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By stcfarms, April 26, 2010 at 9:49 am Link to this comment

If Viejo is indian he would say so. Most Latin Americans are not mixed with
Indians. Most European empires have freed their conquered countries in Asia
and Africa but stubbornly refuse to grant American Indians, Hawaiians or
Aborigenes their freedom. “We were just following orders” did not work for
Hitlers supporters and it should not work for supporters of any invaders.

If you require proof that Jews owned the land you need only look at the
Roman records of 70 AD. If you need proof that todays Jews are descended
from the ancient Jews you need only look at their inherited diseases and DNA.
Is there a time limit on justice?

If you are uncomfortable with history have the Texas school board change it
for you.

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By jay1953, April 25, 2010 at 10:09 pm Link to this comment

Are you an American? You live on stolen Indian land and yet you feel qualified to preach to others about morals?

Viejo is probably Amerindian or a mix thereof. Most Central and South Americans are of mixed Ameridian blood. So if that is the case he has nothing to be ashamed of since his ancestors have been living in the Americas for thousands of years. Us whites are the intruding recent arrivals with a very short history, relatively speaking, in the Americas.

Spanish surnames are common among the mixed and full blooded Amerindian races just like an Anglo surname like Johnson may be common among Afro-Americans. As in the US, Latin America also had its process of deculturalization. Deculturalization of conquered peoples is mostly a European historical phenomena. Today forced deculturalization is considered genocide under the Genocide Convention of which the US was one of its last ratifiers of the so called civilized countries. But it was a ratification without too much effect since since the US took many exceptions to many of the covenants. US ratification didn’t occur until 1988, 39 years after the treaty was introduced. So much for US moral leadership. For example the process of deculturalization practiced on Native American children by the US is defined today as genocide. Israeli aggression against the Palestinians falls under the definition of genocide. A clear violation of Article II.

http://www.preventgenocide.org/
law/convention/text.htm

As to Viejo’s feeling about the Jews history does not borne out modern Jewish claims to Palestine. I would have to agree with his analyses. There were people in Palestine when the Hebrews arrived. They never totally had dominion over Palestine, they did not “exterminate” all of Palestine’s occupants contrary to popular belief. So they did share live with other peoples in Palestine. One group was a non Hebrew tribe called the Samaritans. We’ve all heard of the good Samaritan. These people were converted Jews not descended from Abraham. The were many such peoples living in Palestine during all the time of the supposed Hebrew conquest, Jews and Judaism, came later. So ancient Israel is mostly biblical myth and the modern Zionist claim to Palestine is based on that myth.

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By RenZo, April 24, 2010 at 6:23 pm Link to this comment

@ Viejo

You are preaching in the wrong church here. We by definition think our governments policies are greatly in error. We try to change them.
When you debate seriously, you must try to stick to one topic at a time.
And finally, the word “prick” cannot be used in American English without causing involuntary laughter (like my prose) because it means (mostly and most often) the virile member, rarely is used to mean stick with a needle unless the needle is also mentioned in the same phrase.It is also used to mean the man who acts obnoxiously or rudely, but it is vulgar language.

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By stcfarms, April 23, 2010 at 9:33 pm Link to this comment

As is often the case I go off on a tangent when some self righteous religious
fanatic blames the Jews for retaking their home land. I was just trying to show
the moron that his people are worse than any of the other historical invaders.
Since he has not responded I must assume that the sword of truth has deflated
his bubble of lies. Long live the writers of South Park, defenders of the first
amendment.


By Inherit The Wind, April 23 at 11:54 pm #

What does this have to do with Islamic fanatics trying to limit the freedom of
speech of American cartoonists?

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By Inherit The Wind, April 23, 2010 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment

What does this have to do with Islamic fanatics trying to limit the freedom of speech of American cartoonists?

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By stcfarms, April 23, 2010 at 2:20 pm Link to this comment

Are you an American? You live on stolen Indian land and yet you feel qualified
to preach to others about morals? You are an incredible piece of work. The
Jews have done what we can only dream of, they have regained their home
land, they are our heros. Of course I can see by your name that you are
spanish, it is in your best interest to support invaders wherever you find them
since it adds legitimacy to your claim of the Americas. If we Indians ever
reclaim our land the spanish people will pay the greatest cost. We remember
all that you people have done to us. 

By Viejo Vizcacha, April 23 at 1:55 pm #
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Are you an American? If you are, you cannot sleep well, with these crimes in
our conscience, as I do not sleep well myself.

I cannot see this and remain silent, even in this noneventful mini-blog
interacting with individuals that have their interest alreay compromised, and to
which I cannot expect to even influence them to reason.

American attackers, because this is an attack to America in general, a known
and understood purposeful undermining of America’s morals, are causing that
individuals as I, may end up feeling detachment towards its own land. Your
gain. Congratulations. Beelzebub is happy. (But waiting.)

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By Viejo Vizcacha, April 23, 2010 at 9:55 am Link to this comment
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Please do not use quotes to describe the Palestinian Holocaust entity—The Israeli crimes to Palestinians are Crimes Against Humanity, a systematic destruction of life. A UN snipet here:
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/
hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf

That historically West coveted Arabs’ and Muslims’ oil? There is not the least doubt. All the way to: That Cheney wanted ME’s oil? There is not the least doubt. BUT… he approached Perle’s Netanyaho’s “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” to rally Zionist Congressmen, ultimately for the benefit of Israel. That settles that part.
As you said it: nothing we can do about it… against a Zionist Legislative and Judicial. Nevertheless…

I’ll cut to the cheese:
You upfront said: “moslems attacked others, civilians, babies, mothers, pregnant women…..with bombs, while they were eating.” practically obliterating the rest.
Read what the Israelis have:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/
1062330.html Rabbis booklet advocated cruelty in Gaza Tanks Against Tots campaign in Gaza. Even the Nazis refrained from blasting huddled groups of school children and women with tanks. Israelis haven’t.
About conscienceless infliction of torture:
Why we accuse Muslims of terrorists while we pay US Taxpayers’ money for Israel’s new extra-lethal and highly cancerous weapons as well as the better known cases of flesh-eating white phosphorus and depleted uranium used against Palestine children on their mothers’ arms? Why?
Are you an American? If you are, you cannot sleep well, with these crimes in our conscience, as I do not sleep well myself.

My point is, again: How low must we go? Zionism controls it; you tell me. The great American majority hate Muslims and would cause great harm to them if given the opportunity, while ignoring the wrong being inflicted on them with our complicity. The American majority is bamboozled by the Mass Media, patent example this South Park derision, not to mention unnumberable Hollywood movies and thousands upon thousands of TV shows as the pitiful 24, targeting Muslim hate-mongering. Even more, check out these comments here and there is not one opportunity let go by commentators to insert some insidious prick against Muslims. How low can we go?
That is what I comment against: the loss of moral values by America forced by the Mass Media to train our brains into hate, discrimination and paranoia. That is not native American; and those who inserted it in, deserve serious punishment.
I cannot see this and remain silent, even in this noneventful mini-blog interacting with individuals that have their interest alreay compromised, and to which I cannot expect to even influence them to reason.

American attackers, because this is an attack to America in general, a known and understood purposeful undermining of America’s morals, are causing that individuals as I, may end up feeling detachment towards its own land. Your gain. Congratulations. Beelzebub is happy. (But waiting.)

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By stcfarms, April 22, 2010 at 10:47 pm Link to this comment

The voting booth is rigged, the house (government) always wins. We can do
these things ourselves by becoming self sufficient and returning to the barter
system. We do not need government, they need us. Without slaves there is no
one to feed them.

By RenZo, April 22 at 11:45 pm #

We can’t even get our elected legislators to give us universal healthcare,
campaign reform, and defund the WARS where our children are dying. The
people of the US do not know how to rise up in the voting booth and fix
things.

Maybe they will learn some day.

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By RenZo, April 22, 2010 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment

@ Old Gazpacho

If you laugh at my serious writing, you should see my humorous writing. You would, no doubt, be involuntarily incontinent.

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By RenZo, April 22, 2010 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment

Dear Old Gazpacho,

Let’s solve “your” problem. Tomorrow I will call the Israeli Embassy and ask them to stop making the Moslems mad. I am sure that will fix things. What else would you like me to do, after all I am illogical aren’t I?

Now seriously, it is debatable whether it was simply the Palestinian “Holocaust” which caused “the Muslim world to react to the edge of self-immolation”.

First, the reaction, while shouting about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, was never I think one of SELF-immolation. That is a Buddhist tactic. The moslems attacked others, civilians, babies, mothers, pregnant women…..with bombs, while they were eating. It is showy, but terrorism of this kind is not known for effecting societal change. It usually hardens stereotypes and hatreds. It is not a good tactic, I think, to achieve what they say they want to achieve.

Second, the politics of the middle east have not, since the Crusades been only about religion, and certainly, certainly, not since petroleum was discovered under the sand. I think it is likely that a great part of the “strategy” of the western “powers” including Britain, US, France, et alia, has been to foster the conflict between Israel and its Arab (moslem) neighbors, in order to facilitate ‘our’ access to oil.

Third, the ubiquitous, permanent presence of the western powers inside(militarily) the nations of the mid east has been ever so slightly irritating for the people of those nations. AND, the overt military actions and interventions of the western powers upon the internal and international relations among the mid east nations has certainly also contributed to the flammable relations, just a tad.

Fourth, the relative reticence of the west, AND (what I find most telling) the richest nations of the mid east, to aid the Palestinians materially, substantially and definitively, has not been the direct or obvious fault of Jews or Israelis, but rather, somehow, is never talked about. Saudi Arabia could afford to feed and clothe all of the displaced Palestinians, and still have enough capital to buy the US again. They don’t help, except to give money to hidden, moslem, fundamentalist(simple minded, uneducated, easily aimed and brain washed) terrorists. Why aren’t they (or we) feeding the hungry children and providing vaccinations. They are rather using the “terrorists” as intermediaries to deliberately keep the situation in flames. Or is that an accident?

If I spent longer on this I might think up a few new ones. But it is definitely not, except to the most propagandized of minds, a simple religious or racial feud. That is the cover story, the script, the front story, the Hollywood version, to cover and provide smoke screen for the power plays of the oil companies and the national governments they have in their pockets. And as I pointed out in my first paragraph (satirically and ironically)(no doubt illogically also, by some accounts) there is NOTHING we can do. We can’t even get our elected legislators to give us universal healthcare, campaign reform, and defund the WARS where our children are dying. The people of the US do not know how to rise up in the voting booth and fix things.

Maybe they will learn some day.

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By bogi666, April 22, 2010 at 10:35 am Link to this comment
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These revolutioniarymuslims are tough, they go after cartoonists all in the name of their Allah myth. It’s insanity, institutionized.

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By Viejo Vizcacha, April 22, 2010 at 9:54 am Link to this comment
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You make me laugh, alternately with cries. “Freedom”, “love it or leave it”, “religious (though not violent)”, “christians in Europe burned 2 million innocent women in Europe as witches”, “barbarians were christians”, “Mohammed killed at least 700 Jewish people, including women and children, in one day to show his followers how killing Jews was done”, and “comedy show based on irony and satire, aspects of humor which might be lacking in other cultures, are definitely lacking in sociopaths and psychotics,  and rely on linguistic forms which may be very difficult or impossible for non-native speakers of American English” are so many illogical stereotypes that is maddening.

My point is simple:
1-the Palestinian Holocaust caused the Muslim world to react to the edge of self-immolation;
2-the Muslim reaction caused US to lose focus off of America’s needs and to lose Trillion$ and thousands of young-gullible-loved American kids(and counting);
3-the World is split: pro-Jewish and Not-So-Convinced-by-armtwisting-and-Banking-and-Media-Zionism.
We’re risking a Third Big One because of this. That is not good.

Every little act that we do, must be to stop this absurd, primitive and inhumane Jewish/Muslim war. Whoever is against this last axiom, is a part and interest, of one of the two above mentioned sides at 3. Militant Comedy Central’s “jokes” are not helping.

PLUS: Right now we are immersed focusing on religion as the axle of our politics (to smear/deride/attack a human group [Muslims, Christians…] is politics—in case that you did not notice it).
So:
Religion ruling our politics??? Are we idiots??? How did we reach here??? Are we rolling towards mass-suicide??? Stop.

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By jay1953, April 22, 2010 at 9:09 am Link to this comment

Religion is a disease.

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By Jim Yell, April 22, 2010 at 7:04 am Link to this comment
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I do not think anyone can defame Mohomet more than Mohomet and his followers have done for centuries. It is an article of faith in civilized countries that people can question and search for truth in many ways as long as they don’t violate their fellow citizens rights. In other words you are free to believe and practice whatever you wish, but that freedom ends at my nose.

Is Islam trying to tell me that God had no one better to represent him than a man with an appitite for young girls, a man who was a leader of a gang of murderers and stole most of what Islam claims?

I don’t like any Abrahamic Religions, which have repeatedly shown a contempt for everyone that they can not bully or physically force to follow their superstitions. Just how much more of this is God (saying there is one) going to allow in his name. If he continues to allow the free use of his name by every nut case in the universe than the whole idea of God should become a joke to everyone.

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By purplewolf, April 22, 2010 at 5:32 am Link to this comment

The biggest threat to all living things is organized religion.

This episode of South Park will be similar to the Mormon episode, no doubt,just using a different religious group and I don’t recall any violence against the creators of South Park when episode aired. In fact is was kind of funny. It is satire,people, something not to be taken seriously. Some people need to lighten up and not take everything so seriously, enjoy life and quit letting religious dogma keep people in fear, ignorance and hatred and in misery, never enjoying anything in life.

If you don’t like things like this, don’t watch it.

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By stcfarms, April 21, 2010 at 11:24 pm Link to this comment

W. C. Fields wrote “religion is a disease that you get from your parents and
give to your kids”. It is time to break the cycle of violence and let the gods die.
We live on a dieing planet and we have nothing better to do than to kill each
other in the name of imaginary beings?

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 10:48 pm Link to this comment

I don’t think that I want to undertake an extended debate with you. I think I do not share your intolerance for moslems. I studied Modern Standard Arabic for two years at university. I have know many moslems, from hyper-religious (though not violent to my knowledge) Saudis, to very sectarian French & Arabic speaking North African women (college professors of great intellectual rigor),  to middle class secular, and religious, modern post Attaturk Turks. They were all people who had enough respect for me not to try to convert me – and I think that is the mark of civilization, respect for others, including as a matter of fact (not actually a fact) others who are animals, and respect for the planet- ecosystem.

I disagree when you presume that I am not spiritual entity. Religious people often make that mistake.  Buddha apparently said, or the Sanskrit writers before him said and he agreed with them, ‘there is no religion higher than truth’ (Satyan nasti paro dharmah).  Just to clarify: I read the Vedas (and Upanishads), Buddhas sermons & modern and ancient Buddhist philosophy and psychology, ancient history, and have studied Confucianism, Taoism, Islam and Buddhism. I was raised a catholic in the midst of a community (and school) of Jews, so I know the holidays, the rituals, the history, and the looser forms of Judaism. I am a Buddhist, but we don’t necessarily believe in Hashem (the name you won’t write) nor in heavens and hells, and reputedly Gautama Buddha himself thought this life was “IT” but like Jeshua’s followers, Buddha’s decided to create a mythology around his genius. I revere him for the simplicity of his formulation of the human dilemma (suffer then die, basically, but you can change your relation to suffering and escape it, and that is “enlightenment”).  I think it is a personal, extremely personal,  journey we take through this “life” towards our death and anything we think, feel, believe, learn, & remember in that regard is our spiritual accomplishment.  Personally I think it is the pure consciousness inside each of us: self reflexive consciousness, awareness, the light, the ‘kingdom of god’ as Jeshua supposedly said. Buddhists, Vedantists, Shaivites and yogis would likely agree with me.

I don’t know why you think Islam is such a violent religion. The Torah is chuck full of admonitions to stone the adultresses, misbehaving children, foreigners, et et etc. That’s pretty violent. The christians in Europe burned how many innocent women in Europe as witches, 2 million? \

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 10:29 pm Link to this comment

@ stcfarms

Barbarians have plagued many places, including North America. I was not really thinking of what religion the barbarians were, just that they kill, rape, steal, and take slaves (don’t forget those barbarian-slaver excursions in Africa, part Arab moslems and part European christians, following the word of Christ, no doubt). Barbarians come in all religions.

There is a newsclip one (left talk-)radio host, Norman Goldman, keeps talking about. A little shriveled up white (christian) lady about a hundred years old is on camera and she shrieks out “I want my country back”. Norman points out how terribly ironic that must be for a native american watching this old women who doesn’t know whose country was taken from whom. Look at the Vikings lands now: some of the calmest most civilized and productive societies on earth. Things change.

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By stcfarms, April 21, 2010 at 9:20 pm Link to this comment

In 1492 barbarians came to our land, I agree with your views except that our
barbarians were christians.


By RenZo, April 22 at 12:41 am #

They act like barbarians in someone else’s society, like the vikings raping and
pillaging in Britain, France and Spain. They should take control of their
behavior and act like humans. Nothing merits killing another human. It really
is simple, for me. They should stay in the barbarian culture they came from,
not poison ours worse than it is poisoned by our own human & societal
failures. I have no sympathy for their beliefs. None.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 8:41 pm Link to this comment

@ Rakim

“Well, its hard to disagree with their anger, But killing maybe taking it to far”

No, it is very easy to disagree with their anger. They act like barbarians in someone else’s society, like the vikings raping and pillaging in Britain, France and Spain. They should take control of their behavior and act like humans. Nothing merits killing another human. It really is simple, for me. They should stay in the barbarian culture they came from, not poison ours worse than it is poisoned by our own human & societal failures. I have no sympathy for their beliefs. None.

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By photoshock, April 21, 2010 at 8:20 pm Link to this comment

To Renzo: the Islamic Faith, the way of peace, did not stay that way for long, the histories of contemporary Muslims to Mohammed, stated that he killed at least 700 Jewish people, including women and children, in one day. He wanted to show his followers how, killing Jews was done.
Earlier in the Qu’ran Mohmmed stated that there should be tolerance and respect for the people of the ‘book,’ meaning the Old and New Covenants. Later on, he took up
a more militant stance when these men, women and children would not convert to Islam and killed them outright.
I have studied Islam, and one of the tenets, is to lie and cheat and treat as ‘dimmi’ second class those
who choose not to convert to Islam. That is if they do not kill you in a fit of rage at your lack of respect for the Prophet, blessed be his name.
Jews and Christians alike suffered persecution under Islamic rule and in those states that practiced tolerance and respect, there were flourishing cultures that advanced civilization thousand fold.
In the countries that practice intolerant and biased faith, the other faithful suffered grave persecution and death for their beliefs and practices.
Islam as all other religions is an extreme form of bias and intimidation, based upon someone’s ‘visions.’ How are we to know the real truth, for nothing was written contemporaneously to Mohammed’s lifetime. Just as nothing was written contemporaneously to Jeshua’s lifetime. His name was not Jesus and he was not a ‘son of David.’ Would you like to debate write me at this website and I will determine if you can debate honestly and openly.
If for no other reason than the extremists and haters in all religions, we need a ‘spiritual, not religious’ awakening. We the people of the world, must come together and see the truth that we are all one and we live on a fragile planet that can not long
sustain this ‘christian’ ideal of complete domination
of the whole world. We are stewards not abusers of the planet, if you believe ‘G-d’s’ word.
Somehow I do not think that what is happening today, with the rape and murder of innocent civilians and the rape and destruction of Planet Earth, is what was intended for us.
Please awaken to the fact that there are many paths to the one true “G-d” and there are many ways of hearing the true word of “G-d,” but if you close off yourself to one or the other because of prejudice and the deceit of those who have taught you, you are the one that is losing, gaining knowledge is easy. Just open your mind to hearing another faith, you don’t necessarily have to believe any or every thing, just as long as you respectfully hear them. As for the satire and humor Americans find useful in their daily lives, we must all get over the fact that we are targets for those who do not believe the same way we do. America is a country rife with Freedom of Speech, there cannot be ‘blasphemy laws’ on the books, that is what drove those seeking religious freedom to leave their lands and countries of birth to found the New World. If you cannot or don’t agree with the way things are in this country, GET THE HELL OUT! DO NOT STAY! YOU cannot undertake citizenship in our country unless and until you can accept all the laws of our country, including the right to be disrespectful and satirical in nature.
Given the choice between the kind of government that is inherent in most of the “Islamic” states, and the United States, most people will choose the freedom and responsibility of citizenship in the U.S.
The systems of government in the Islamic countries is one based upon religious intolerance and religious totalitarianism. This is not a tenable situation when you are seeking the truth and it includes tolerance and respect.

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By TheHiker, April 21, 2010 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment
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Anyone whose “God” and/or “Prophet/Messiah/Leader/Guru” can’t handle rational discussion/humor/wit/disagreement and believes he/she/it were put on this planet to kill those who CAN handle rational discussion/humor/wit/disagreement needs to look for a bigger/better God/Prophet/Messiah/Leader/Guru! 

If you and your Mo’ham/Jesus/Zoroaster/Buddha/Gandhi/Brigham Young/Whatever can only think about killing anyone who disagrees with you, it is YOU who is mentally whacked and morally deranged.

Unfortunately, such people lack all the abilities needed to comprehend this truth . . .

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By mudd, April 21, 2010 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment
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Perhaps its simply a vile rumor..smile but i am almost certain i heard, saw, GW state that in the New World Order, he, and its engineers have a plan to outlaw ALL organised religions.. and implement pantheism..earh and nature worhship..( being native american believe me i am THERE already) not to mention start the greatest world war ever imagined in the streets of the entire planet.. smile judging by the current applications of the NWO template, coalitions of the chilling war criminal elitists, it seems highly plausible that there will not be a single member of the above mentioned religions left alive and or free on earth..
not a warning this is a threat on public media..ok corporate media..aimed at all of the religionists spewing spittle on each other..smile so sue GW Bush.. or kill him..destroy all corporate fascists and their ultra rich supporters.. gee.. thats a win win solution to the entire problem of the insane believers with too many rights protecting their madness..smile in a homogenised world of sameess wonder what pretexts we will anihilate the other for.. oh right.. eugenics of the second phase of world domination by maniacs of a different kind..Hail Gaia.smile Bring it.

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By Jake, April 21, 2010 at 6:31 pm Link to this comment
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I don’t know about sociopaths,but “psychotics” doesn’t refer to a kind of person and psychotic people don’t always have problems with irony and satire.  Mental illness is a sensitive subject to me.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment

@ stcfarms

One possible amendment to your plan. Something larger than Diego Garcia is required, otherwise, if they are allowed to bring their livestock and pets with them, we would have SPCA, HSUS and PETA on our necks about the crowded conditions of the “lesser” species.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment

PART II

Second of all, Moslems just like Catholics, Protestants, Hindus, Confucians, and (occasionally some nominally) Buddhist people rise up and start murdering others nearby for reasons that sane people, secular realists, new age hippies and stoned musicians all would find ridiculously worthless. Moslems participated in the Crusades (didn’t perhaps start the fight), slaughtered Hindus in India before and during the partition, conquered the mid east at least twice that I can think of (initial jihad for domination in the 8th century and then again with the Ottoman Empire). Moslems are as peaceful, diverse, warlike, irritable, kind, charitable, tolerant and paranoid as other people around the world. The idiots we are mocking here are not kind, intelligent, peaceful or charitable, but that is a matter of their personal choices, experiences and associations. They should try to do better. I always, like Avis, try to do better. Or is that Hertz? That was a joke about the fact that we don’t remember those who try to be good, only the bad.

I would as soon deride christians or hindus who base lethal actions on mistaken speech of others, outside their cultural capacity. I don’t dislike Moslems at all. And have said nothing here to indict them as a group. I was raised in a very integrated Jewish-Goy environment and am very comfortable with secular Jews also, although none of my childhood Orthodox Jewish friends performed any violent rituals or treated their mothers or sisters badly while I was nearby, so I am unfamiliar with that most horrible side of Jewish culture. Oh, yes, Jews have started wars and killed people too, although never, I think, for the simple purpose of Empire (secular nor religious). If your point is simply that Palestine is a horrible mess, I agree totally and indict Israel (the political entity) for contributing deliberately and cruelly to maintaining that status.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 12:50 pm Link to this comment

@ Viejo Vizcacha

I asked for the address of the organization which apparently issued veiled (thinly) threats against the authors of a very popular and long lasting comedy show. This comedy show is based on irony and satire, aspects of humor which might be lacking in other cultures, are definitely lacking in sociopaths and psychotics,  and rely on linguistic forms which may be very difficult or impossible for non-native speakers of American English. These forms of humor are specific to the culture (“culture-bound”), although to a great extent the English language and common literary heritage of English speakers all over the world allow us to understand each other’s satire and irony, in fact most of our humor. But even when watching a British comedy show, I, who am a native speaker of American English, and trained in several other languages (including non-western ones) hear some jokes that I cannot understand, either because the slang that is used is specific to the UK, or because the joke is based on an element of British culture which is not shared with USA.  When I hear such, even if it were to include a reference to an American icon, like Franklin Delano Roosevelt, I would not assume that the joke is a condemnation of all things and values American. I would first think to myself, “I don’t understand why that is funny” and I would go on with the rest of my life. Indeed, I think for most of us secular Americans even the fact that intracultural humor is taken as a cause to issue death threats (like Rushdie’s ordeal, or Dutch activist Gogh, who was in fact murdered) is in itself a kind of joke about the people who would take a joke to that extreme.

If this is falling on (your) deaf ears, I will next state it more clearly, but in less elegant and polite terms. To be so culture bound and intellectually unsophistiscated as to think that jokes shared on comedy shows, or cartoons, or storylines in (fictional) novels are a reason to kill people who enjoy the joke or create it, is well…. in a non humorous way…...laughable. In the case that I just explained is the real cruelty, for when I laugh at the simpletons who issued death threats to the authors of cartoons, jokes and novels, I am laughing at their stupidity, ignorance, bucolicity, and also at their defective mental or emotional apparatus. Very bluntly, they are stupid and crazy and contemptible. Now this was the vein in which I asked the (present) bloggers to supply me with the address of the “organization” (but I think I used the word ‘them’) so that I could send ‘them’ a package of old shrimp wrapped in pornography (which I would have to go out and buy because I have none in the house, ever, actually). The other bloggers reading this (barring some unforeseen participation here by a sociopath or psychotic individual) would have understood my comment as NOT being a threat to harm anyone, do any violence, issue any threats, but rather a bluster (fake self aggrandizing comment) on my part, albeit one that meant to offend the group in question. In case you think it rude of me to issue such humorous or insensitive jokes on a public blogging site, please start reading this posting again at the top of my present comments.

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By stcfarms, April 21, 2010 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment

Jews were forcibly removed from their land 2,000 years ago and only seek to
reclaim it. Christians have stolen the Americas, Hawaii and Australia while
muslims stole a third of Asia and large swaths of Africa. Christians and
muslims are a fatal disease that has infected over half the world. If you have
never heard of muslim violence it is because your mind is closed.

By Viejo Vizcacha, April 21 at 2:32 pm #
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I’d never heard of Muslim violence before the
Intifadas. And the Intifadas were born out of Palestinians desperation suffering
every kind of rape from the Israelis.

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By Luis, April 21, 2010 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment
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It is too bad these extremist had chosen our country to live. This is another clear example of why we need tough immigration regulations. If you move to America you better get used to do things the way we do it in America. If you dont like the first art of the Constitution then maybe it is time to pack and move back to your muslim country. But if you want to be here, get used to freedom of speech my friends. I dont like the KKK, or the extreme right. Now, that should no give me the reason to go ahead and do something crazy against any of them. If they want changes in the way we do things in this country, the solution is easy. Run for office, get elected and then work to change what u dont like. Otherwise, try to open your mind and get used to it.

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By RenZo, April 21, 2010 at 10:36 am Link to this comment

@Dave Thomas
Please don’t waste a pig on them, what a shame. Send old shrimp, wrapped in nasty pictures. It’s got to be much more offensive.

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By Viejo Vizcacha, April 21, 2010 at 10:32 am Link to this comment
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There are as much lunatic fanatics at both sides of the field: Have you seen ortodox Jewish rituals or their dress, or how they treat their women? Have you seen their incredible violence-inciting videos put up on those community cable channels? In this same board, two or three have already tracked down the name, address, and suggested violence against Muslims because they dared to ask some balance in mind-formning cartoons. And I could go on and on. My point is one of current disconcert and of worriness on the future of America: Why there is allowed so much demonizing of Muslims? How that demonizing has mushroomed up our society to the omnipresent current position? Who are working for and who are allowing that deformation of our minds? Is it right that Zionists get so easy and heavy access to those channels and Muslims don’t? Where are we going to end up?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I’d never heard of Muslim violence before the Intifadas. And the Intifadas were born out of Palestinians desperation suffering every kind of rape from the Israelis.
The level of harassment to anybody dissenting with the omnipresent Zionism, is scary. The level of hypocresy towards any humanistic or leveled approach to the Muslims is totally shaking. Which will be the outcome of all this obsession with religion, I ask? We’re ignoring other more, much more important areas of interest, like industry, education, housing, even trade letting China to indebt us and to get us dependant on their industry, occupied as we are by this absurd, primitive and inhumane Jewish/Muslim war.

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By jay1953, April 21, 2010 at 10:23 am Link to this comment

Ban religion.

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By stcfarms, April 21, 2010 at 8:05 am Link to this comment

My satirical remark that radical christian supporters of South Park might ‘nuke
Mecca’ took on new meaning when I googeled ‘nuke Mecca’ and found 50,800
web sites dedicated to doing just that. Perhaps it is time to banish all of the
followers of Mithra (judeo/christian/islamists) to Diego Garcia and let them
fight it out to the death using stone age weapons. The winner could rule the
island with an iron fist and the rest of the world might finally enjoy some
peace.

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By Inherit The Wind, April 21, 2010 at 4:11 am Link to this comment

From Wikipedia:

he word assassin is derived from the Arabic word Hashshashin, referred to the Persian designation of the Nizari branch of the Ism?’?l? Shia under the instruction of Hassan a?-?abba? during the Middle Ages. They were active in the fort of Alamut in Iran from the eighth to the fourteenth centuries. This group killed members of the Arab Abbasid, Seljuq and crusaders élite for political and religious reasons, but mostly targeted the Sunni Muslims.

Although commonly believed that assassins were under the influence of hashish and opium during their killings or during their indoctrination, and that assassin derives from “takers of hashish,” there is continued debate within the historical community whether these claims have any merit, as direct evidence from any contemporary source, Nizari or otherwise, is non-existent. Marco Polo and subsequent European visitors to the area received from rivals of the Nizarai, what were to these opponents, derogatory names for the Nizarai Ismaili, and significantly embroidered stories about them. Polo, Henry II, Count of Champagne, William Marsden, an envoy of Frederick Barbarossa, William, Archbishop of Tyre and others following, popularized the names and stories in Europe, oblivious to their origin in factional propaganda.

The earliest known literary use of the word assassination is in Macbeth by William Shakespeare (1605).
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And so, that invention of the Middle East, by radical extremist Shi’ite Muslems, is still alive today in an attempt to intimidate American freedom of speech by the threat of murder.

I can’t tell you how much I detest extremists of EVERY religion.

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By ardee, April 21, 2010 at 2:44 am Link to this comment

As long as we remember that these radical Islamists are no more representative of that religion than are the radical Christians representative of Christianity.

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By RenZo, April 20, 2010 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment

Share their address with all of us, I’ll send shrimp wrapped in porno.
south park rules.
In a bear suit, really awesome.

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By stcfarms, April 20, 2010 at 5:17 pm Link to this comment

We have to warn muslims that we have just as many deeply disturbed people
that love South Park as they have deeply disturbed religious maniacs. Perhaps
some of them have access to nuclear weapons and despise Mecca. “This is not
a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them”.


“We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they
will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show,” says the site,
revolutionmuslim.com. “This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of
what will likely happen to them.”

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By Dave Thomas, April 20, 2010 at 5:13 pm Link to this comment

Nothing quite like claiming you will act in God’s name to give a phony legitimacy to what is basically a mafia-style threat.

Does anyone have a mailing address for that group so I can send them a holiday ham?

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