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Mormons and Prop. 8: An Unholy Alliance Explored Onscreen

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Posted on Jun 21, 2010
8: The Mormon Proposition
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Tyler Barrick and Spencer Jones appear in this still from “8: The Mormon Proposition.”

Those of us who were in California during the election of 2008 (and many who weren’t) remember how quickly the tide seemed to turn when it came to the expected versus real outcome of the Proposition 8 vote. Also memorable from that time was the news that certain religious bodies, such as the Mormon Church, were instrumental in the pro-Prop. 8 campaign. Now, nearly two years after the fact, a new documentary is exploring the Mormon role in that controversial electoral moment.  —KA

Los Angeles Times:

The controversial film the Stays are a part of is “8: The Mormon Proposition,” a documentary that argues that the Mormon Church, as a nonprofit religious organization, breached the barrier between church and state in its successful campaign to pass Prop. 8. The movie, released in theaters Friday, is also available on demand and through digital download channels. (Its release is especially timely, because last week a federal judge heard closing arguments in a lawsuit questioning the proposition’s constitutionality.)

In the documentary, internal church documents and interviews with former Mormons are used to give the story context. But its emotional grounding lies in the stories of Mormon families and gay individuals who have been personally affected by the church’s position.

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By Chris, September 23, 2010 at 7:29 am Link to this comment
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A Woman From Utah Accuses Mormon Prophet Of Attempted Rape!

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By Paul, September 20, 2010 at 7:27 am Link to this comment
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Utah Woman Accuses Mormon Prophet Of Attempted Rape!

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By photoshock, June 24, 2010 at 8:19 am Link to this comment

Leefeller, exactly correct. We should not allow the few to dictate to the many.
The churches of America, have more money than they know
what to do with, and they still ask for more. Yet push comes to shove and they scream bloody murder, because they are ‘protected’ and should not pay taxes on their income.
Well, it is certainly high time that any church, in the U.S. start to pay their fair share of the burden of the economy, and this without any protection from taxes. If there is a G-d, then G-d will provide all they need, if not then these charlatans should not exist at all. Any of the myriad of churches available
would undoubtedly fall by the wayside immediately if they had to pay for the privilege of preaching their nonsense to an unwilling public.
I agree that these men and women who supposedly preach ‘G-d’s’ word are nothing more than fakes and fakirs without so much as anything to back up their words. Most of the televangelists would immediately fold up their ministries if they had to pay taxes on any income they received as part of their message.
I do not understand this countries abhorrence to taxing a business, nor do I understand the reasoning behind not taxing these so-called ministries.
All these people do is beg for money, well if the people who have been hoodwinked by these charlatans could not claim tax-exempt status on the money they give to these thieves, then the general public would certainly not give any money to the preachers who have hoodwinked these foolish people.

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By patinreno, June 23, 2010 at 11:57 am Link to this comment
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Tax all churches.mormon,catholic,holyrollers & all. They have been sticking their nose in politics for decades. Telling the congreation who to vote for who to send money to. I do not like being told what to do by some fat,pompus preacher. Tax them! NOW!!!!

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By tyler, June 23, 2010 at 9:13 am Link to this comment
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TAX ALL CHURCHES

The tax-free existence that all churches enjoy needs to end.

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By Tobysgirl, June 23, 2010 at 5:44 am Link to this comment

My husband says: “Marriage is between a man and his concubines.”

I have long been disturbed by the Roman Catholic Church’s engagement in politics, working against death with dignity, gay marriage, abortion and contraception. Why are these churches never investigated for their forays into political action? Is it simply too controversial for any state attorney general? It outrages me that a church, which condoned pedophilia for decades (and sexual abuse in general for centuries), has the gall to make pronouncements on gay marriage. But then we’re back again to MoNoMo’s comment that leaving the church is a far worse sin than molestation.

Leefeller, you might be interested in what turning the other cheek means. In first century Palestine your superior would slap you with the back of his hand on your right cheek. If you turned the other cheek, he would be forced to slap you with his open hand, which was the form between EQUALS. Yeshua bar Yosef was rather a clever man, which is why most Christians have no interest in his teachings.

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By Peetawonkus, June 22, 2010 at 7:39 am Link to this comment

Absolutely. If Big Church is going to play Big Politics then it’s time to pay Big Taxes.

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By MoNoMo, June 22, 2010 at 7:09 am Link to this comment
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As a former Mormon, their involvement in Prop 8 doesn’t seem outside their usual degreee of political involvement.  The members just responded much more strongly than they did for other issues (if you were sending your 19 year old son to live with other 19 year old boys for 2 years away from any real contact with yourself, you might be a little more homophobic, as well, I suppose).  I was child in Idaho (as a Mormon) when the state allowed the lottery in, and there were multiple letters from the “First Presidency” telling us that we were duty bound to oppose the lottery, because it was gambling.  H311, yes, they ought to lose their tax exempt status (let’s see how people like paying tithing when they don’t get to deduct it from their taxes!)

Mormons were practicing “Alternative Lifestyles” into the mid-1920’s.  I suppose this is just one way they’re trying to deny their past which is really necessary to continue to believe the doctrine.  If they were open & honest about their history, the doctrine is quickly debunked if only you can get your brain to engage.

Just don’t be too hard on folks that were raised LDS.  It’s not easy to engage your mental faculties when you’ve endured subtle brainwashing since birth.  Even when you can get through it, it’s very emotinally & psychologically painful.  My family (one of whom is a ‘repentant’ convicted pedophile) all believe that I’m the one going to hell (actually, it’s called ‘Outer Darkness’), and they feel more pity for my children (not LDS) than my brother’s (molested by their father).  It’s quite insidious.

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By Leefeller, June 22, 2010 at 6:16 am Link to this comment

Tax the f…ing moron arse holes and their holy underwear!

I am not a Christian, so my tolerance level is not quite up to those higher prestigious standards of Christianity, you know turning the other cheek and treat others as I would treat people I do not like.

Hypocrisy, need only be defined by the actions of the religious.

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