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Alec Baldwin Considering Congressional Bid

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Posted on Jul 7, 2009
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After the likes of Ronald Reagan, Sonny Bono and Al Franken, Alec Baldwin’s (still tentative) musings about taking up the celebrity-politician mantle carry a certain sense of dramatic inevitability. The “30 Rock” star may play a Republican on TV but leans to the left in his offscreen life.

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“I’ll put it this way,” he told the magazine. “The desire is there; that’s one component. The other component is opportunity.”

A native New Yorker, Baldwin said he has been approached by an unnamed Democratic law firm who wanted him to run for governor of Ohio, and he has also considered moving to New Jersey or Connecticut to run for office. “I’d love to run against Joe Lieberman,” Baldwin said of the Independent Democratic senator who is no favorite of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. But Baldwin dismissed the idea, saying “It’s all fantasy.”

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By RAE, July 10, 2009 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

And he’s worked so hard to earn a quality reputation. Why would he want to throw it all away and become…. horror…. a POLITICIAN… a pursuit with a reputation many rungs lower than a used car salesman.

Why would he want to run for office where his efforts to bring change can easily be buried by opposing forces when he can stay as an independent celebrity and have his points actually HEARD by those who eventually count - the people?

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By coloradokarl, July 10, 2009 at 4:40 am Link to this comment

Baldwin-Fey 2012.  INDEPENDANT.  Lookout Obama!!

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By samosamo, July 9, 2009 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment

Ronnie reagan should have cured the people’s ‘rush’ to elect celebrities of the film industry to our governments and if nothing else, seems ahnold the governator validates that assumption.

Right now, I will try to keep an eye on Minnesota’s new senator to see how his move from ‘comedian’ to political representative works but I won’t hold my breath because obama pulled a REAL FAST ONE on those he convinced to vote him into the white house and since then has done nothing but pick up and carry on where w & dick ;  left off in January and that has been enough time to incorporate obama’s part into the ongoing crises as he has had ample time to carry out his campaign promises but has at about every turn chose not to do so.

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By G.Anderson, July 9, 2009 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment

Ardee.. Yes one of the purposes of family law courts is to make money, and if you don’t have money then the court can’t make that much money off you.

So, yes the poor are treated abysmally, but they usually are treated so with much more rapidity, than those that have some cash.

The more time in court the more billable hours. If there’s no money, then there’s no one to bill.

Then there’s also child support, the state doesn’t go after poor men, because there’s no money to be made. But if you have any money, then the state makes $50 in grant money from the feds for every $1 in collects from you. And since custody orders effect the amount of child support collected, since support is based on the amount of time fathers spend with their children, this creates a cash incentive to limit visitation, the less time you spend with your children the more money the state gets.

The grant money given to the states by the federal government can be spent anyway the states want to, child support goes to the custodial parent. But grant money goes to the state who disburses it to the county.

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By ThomasG, July 9, 2009 at 12:51 pm Link to this comment

I prefer constituent oriented politics with issues worked out within the constituency, rather than issues being used as a divisive means to fractionalize a constituent group.

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By Shenonymous, July 9, 2009 at 7:52 am Link to this comment

The inexorable adulation you note that is bestowed on the glamorous is aided and abetted by a debilitated and usually vacant news media that grasps at every hint of a fiber of a story regardless of the real worth it inherently has and a commercial industry that gets its lifeline by ‘selling’ the product no matter what the product is.  Take for instance the unrestrained media puke over Michael Jackson, his death, his life, his career, his funeral, and now reviewing and vomiting it all over again and again and again and again, like an unending consuming fugue.  And all those hypocrites coming out of the woodwork just to align themselves with a grotesque media gargantuan that is calculated to make themselves ‘look good.’  It looked like the entertainment groupies, for they pretended they were groupies too, all had a diarrhea malaise with the “adulation.”  Why do I say this?  Because when Jackson was alive, they did not express their emotional endorsement.  They were extraordinarily silent during his most troubled times.  In death, he is royalty!  Long live the dead king.  It is gilded bullshit. 

It is slightly twilight zone to think Voight was that bitter paraplegic soldier who learns to redirect his anger to meaningful war protest that played to Hanoi Jane Fonda’s horney wifey in that movie Coming Home!  Actors are the experts who can pretend nonpareil to be just the opposite of what they are.  And sleazy politicians experts at the pretense to be exactly what they are.

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By ardee, July 9, 2009 at 4:49 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous, July 8 at 10:07 pm #

Voight is a nut job, his own daughter say so too. Thompson is abysmally stupid as his abortive campaign for the WH showed plainly.

I think that this culture makes stars neurotic, and , eventually, no matter how grounded or sincere, they succumb to the adulation, to the coterie of “groupies” who bend to their every need, to the constant flattery and flatulence that surrounds their every waking moment. How can they help but become distant from reality?

All the more reason to separate those like Sean Penn, who remain very grounded and active, from the herd.

I still wont mention Reagan and Schwartzenegger, nope, wont do it!

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By Shenonymous, July 8, 2009 at 7:07 pm Link to this comment

Your etiquette about Ronnie Raygun and Arnold is so much appreciated, ardee.  Thank you for not mentioning them.  For Baldwin, I think it was really just the opposite, that he was treated dismally because he was rich and famous.  It is said he tends to piss people off.  That might be a perfect quality for a politician.  But I guess it is a matter of perception.  You are probably right, however, that it seems the rich usually do skate right through the courts, possibly even just skating by.  Of course I cannot cite any cases so I wouldn’t say unequivocally that I know this to be true.

I wonder too if it is not that the public thinks it needs star power or rather that stars think they need the public’s power? Some of them are even highly educated. Of course we wouldn’t want to be prejudiced and think that stars are not people. Even with the phenomena of Raygun and Schwartzenegger, name recognition goes a long way.  There have been other actors in Congress, Fred Thompson comes to mind.  He was a minor star who played veddy veddy s e d i o u s rrroles and I suppose he hoped his presence in Congress was veddy veddy sssedious too???? Ah so.  Now of course John Voight is weighing in as a political critic perjoratively accusing Obama of being a Marxist.  I think he is looking for a job change too.  Just because one extols the virtues of socialist programs does not mean they are a Marxist (I put myself in that camp).  A common accusation by Rabid Republicans, and the flimsy tactic of name-calling.  Funny, but the extreme leftists on the TD forums resort to that tactic too.

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By ardee, July 8, 2009 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment

Shenonymous, July 8 at 8:00 pm #

Alec Baldwin has always spoken intelligently on serious issues and has shown he has a good sense of humor as well.  I’ve watched many interviews of him and read many articles about his legal battles.  Since all politicians are actors of a type, and politics is pure theater, Mr. Baldwin is a cut above those already in office.
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Well, maybe, but my comment regarded the statement that Baldwin received prejudicial treatment in court because he was rich, not really a believable statement given the way the poor and underrepresented are treated in court and the wealthy skate all the time.

And yes, I am a bit sick of the way the public thinks it needs star power and personality in its candidates for office. I can think of far more important qualities and I bet you can as well.

I could also mention Reagan and Schwartzenegger but I wont.

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By Sepharad, July 8, 2009 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment

Shenonymous, I agree that we need to know where he stands on issues today. Initially, it will be the Connecticut voters who decide whether they want him to be their Senator. Unlike yourself, I haven’t heard any of his interviews so I’ll have to start googling. (And, getting an award from the Muslim Public Affairs Council might be a good thing. At the very least it suggests he’s not a bigot.)

ardee, I understand your distrust of yet another rich celebrity and in some ways agree with you. From my perspective, a rich celebrity candidate has a strike against them: they have to prove they 1)understand and 2)give a damn about the unbelievably huge problems afflicting the many Americans who have already lost their jobs, many more who stand to lose theirs as our institutions and businesses continue to collapse, have inadequate if any health insurance, are attempting to deal with their families’ fears as their husbands and wives are fighting in places we did not belong in the first instance, homeless as well those who were poor even before the crash, and all the rest. They also should have some idea of what the government should be doing to cope with all this. If the only problem he has thought about for the last few years has been custody issues of fathers, that’s not good enough.

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By Shenonymous, July 8, 2009 at 5:00 pm Link to this comment

Alec Baldwin has always spoken intelligently on serious issues and has shown he has a good sense of humor as well.  I’ve watched many interviews of him and read many articles about his legal battles.  Since all politicians are actors of a type, and politics is pure theater, Mr. Baldwin is a cut above those already in office.

ardee, if you are interested google a link yourself.  It’s all there.  I checked it out and it took only .26 seconds.

With his colorful career it will undoubtedly be a very colorful campaign and opponents will have a field day.  But even so, I’d bet this guy could pull it off if he gives substantial opinions about political issues. 

He accepted a Muslim Public Affairs Council award in 2004 for his political positions on social justice, environmentalism and the Bush Administration’s failures to implement sound domestic and foreign policies.  While that does not impress me, it doesn’t mean he is an Islamist sympathizer.  We do need to know what he politically stands for today!

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By ardee, July 8, 2009 at 2:46 pm Link to this comment

G.Anderson, July 8 at 4:20 pm #

Mr. Baldwin, has done alot to bring attention to fathers rights issues.

There are millions of men, for that reason alone, who will support him.

I will never forget some of the words from his book, in which he desribed how the family law court took eons to address his legal issues, while these same issues took only a few minutes for someone else. The descrepency was based soley on income.

Good luck to you Mr. Baldwin.
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Wait a hold it….Are you taking the position that the courts discriminated against a rich man? Because he was rich? A first I think.

Can you entertain the possibility that the case that took only a few minutes involved a working stiff with a modest income, thus child care and alimony were easily computed, while Baldwin with many assets, multiple homes, several cars and a ton of negotiable assets to boot may have been a more complex and deliberative issue? Made more complicated, no doubt by a gaggle of high priced attorneys for both sides….

If only you had cited a link…..

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By G.Anderson, July 8, 2009 at 1:20 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Baldwin, has done alot to bring attention to fathers rights issues.

There are millions of men, for that reason alone, who will support him.

I will never forget some of the words from his book, in which he desribed how the family law court took eons to address his legal issues, while these same issues took only a few minutes for someone else. The descrepency was based soley on income.

Good luck to you Mr. Baldwin.

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By MarthaA, July 8, 2009 at 11:20 am Link to this comment

Connecticut needs a democratic Senator to run against Joe Lieberman the REPUBLICAN-Independent, who caucuses with the Democrats.  Alec Baldwin would have his hands full as there are a lot of REPUBLICAN voters in Connecticut that will vote for Joe Lieberman, because they did, when Lieberman was kicked out of the Senate by the people of Connecticut, the democratic voters; then, Lieberman was held up as an Independent by the Republican voters, and an Independent isn’t even a political party.  Joe Lieberman must be replaced and since Alec Baldwin leans left, Alec Baldwin is an ideal replacement for the traitorous Lieberman.  If Alec Baldwin chooses to run for Senator against Joe Lieberman, Connecticut and our nation will most likely be able to kick Joe Lieberman out of the Senate and the Congress completely, which would be a wonderful happening.

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By tomack, July 8, 2009 at 6:10 am Link to this comment

After Bush, Cheney, Palin… ad nauseam, the bar has been set so low this hardly compares. Who knows, he might be the type who can’t be bought; he already has fame and wealth. I have hope for Franken based on what little I’ve heard from him. They have to be tough not be caught in the sharp spokes of DC. Few are.

There’s an old science fiction book predicated on the idea of a country led by only the very brightest, imaginative, honest. and hard working people of the populace. The process of finding these people was ardous; the testing was demanding and while many voluntered, many more were eventually conscripted into 4 year service terms. They were then placed in their area of expertise, be it science, economics, engineering, administration, etc, and asked to accomplish the tasks designated by the voting public. It’s amazing what was accomplished and how fast. 

Fiction, what a concept. Our way is Bizzaro-World in comparison.

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By ardee, July 8, 2009 at 4:52 am Link to this comment

Issues? Issues? We dont need no stinkin’ issues!

Another celebrity throws his $600 Borcelino into the ring. Hooray, now the electorate doesnt have to focus on issues, only name and face recognition, so much easier than thinking.

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By Sepharad, July 7, 2009 at 9:04 pm Link to this comment

So the desire and opportunity is there, great, but where does he stand on the issues?

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