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Newsweeklies on the BrinkPosted on Jul 2, 2009
So, Time and Newsweek have had to reinvent themselves in the face of flagging circulation numbers and built-in relevance issues (i.e., they were created at a time when there were too many newspapers, crazy as that sounds now), but as The Atlantic’s Michael Hirschorn notes, there’s one weekly news digest that’s going strong while others falter.
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By rfidler, July 11 at 4:48 pm #
Amon Drool:
I’ll risk it with a worn out cliche: “You only have one chance to make a first impression.”
What would you think of some right wing wacko’s intellectual capacity if he started off criticizing “Carl Marks” or “cimminisum of Russa?” I can bet nothing he would say afterward would matter to you.
“Venquela” and “Nicuarga” ar so offputting to me. I’ll take your word for it that folktruther has a very well developed political philosophy. I just can’t understand a word of it. As I said before, butchering the common structure of English is everyone’s right as a free thinking revolutionary trying to break free of the dominant power structure. But the risk he takes is reaching only a very limited and like-minded audience, like the readership of Truthdig.
P.S. I’ll be 61 next week.
Report thisBy Anarcissie, July 10 at 2:50 pm #
I like a nice, roll-your-own phrase like “truth tradition”, whereas “dominant paradigm” sounds like part of a satire on academic language. The peculiarity of Folktruther’s language indicates to me that he has done some actual thinking, and it might provoke thought in others, which of course is going to annoy a lot of people.
Report thisBy Amon Drool, July 10 at 2:18 pm #
anar…why say something like truth tradition when u could use a phrase like dominant paradigm and then use as a referent american banker/finance capitalism as the present dominant (and hopefully crumbling)paradigm? most would understand that point of view…i think truth tradition (especially the adjectival truth) clouds what folk is trying to get across.
and homeland values doesn’t resonate very well either. homeland brings to mind nazism and the recent bush/cheney-led cabal. i think what folk is trying to say with that phrase is that a universal perspective has to be integrated with the more immediate national perspective. i don’t think the way he uses homeland values gets that point across very well.
and earthperson popuation hadda leave even a sympathetic reader like u muttering what the ef.
Report thisbut hey, like i’ve noted before, folk has a thick skin and is able to deal with the mockery that his amorphous phrasing brings on. different strokes for different folks and so on and so on and doobie doobie doo doo…
By Anarcissie, July 10 at 10:57 am #
What else is he going to say? Regardless of whatever phraseology he uses, if he says anything that hasn’t been taught in school and recited by the media, it’s going provoke incomprehension, resistance and resentment in a lot of people.
Report thisBy Amon Drool, July 10 at 6:52 am #
folk…damn, i got knocked off-line during a longish post to u and when i got back online and finished the post and then hit preview, pffftt..the post went bye bye. thought it was a good one, but i don’t wanna go through doing it all again. i’ll just say your phraseology (“truth tradition” “homeland values” “earthperson population”) sometimes gets in the way of what you’re trying to convey. i pretty much know what u mean, but it all may come off as a bit pretentious to some. (rfidler,nefesh) and i’m hoping you’re not thinking you’re unique in adding “homeland” values to class-based ones…lukacs and gramsci did this after WW1. and a lot of us of a certain age have felt the need to develop a world historical perspective to get beyond a class-based homeland perspective. pictures of the earth from the moon coupled with a deteriorating ecological situation have had an effect on most. hell, it’s 5:30 in the morning…better get some sleep
Report thisBy Folktruther, July 10 at 1:47 am #
Thank you for your comment, Amon. I found your comment about my coherence valuable. the issues you mention are the outcome of a citique that the truth traditions of polities are formulated from the basis of class and homeland values. class based power structures that rule hoemlands produce truth traditions that serve their power interests rather than those of the population. And this has influenced the scientific tradition and especially Wesstern social science.
the US homeland values are being promoted by Zionists who primaily identify with Israli homeland values. But they are subsumed by a Eltist US ruling class that uses them for its own purposes. My view is highly coherent, and expands marxist social theory to include homeland as well as class values. It is highly coherent, as marxism is, but subverts the Western worldview that has legitiamted Capitalist Democarcies the past few centuries and the predatory imperialism of the White Man.
Because it is formulated from a world historical perspective of the earhtperson population rather than from a class-based homeland perspective.
I have edited this as thanks for your comment.
Report thisBy nefesh, July 9 at 2:07 pm #
I have asked FT to define his favorite memes, several times, in fact, and he is unable to do so. What does that tell you?
“pseudo-Prgressive (sic) mainstream truthers”
“truth system”
and my favorite FTism - it’s downright Orwellian - “truth consensus”
Report thisBy Amon Drool, July 8 at 3:59 pm #
rfidler..i’m not quite sure what u are thanking me for. but, what the hell, smoke ‘em whenever u get ‘em.
i post infrequently at TD. i’ve had my say on the political and economic reforms that i think this country needs, and i just don’t wanna go on repeating myself.
i do post when i feel someone gets “outa line”...and i do feel you’ve gotten outa line on this thread. skmasksk’s well-written post is easily understandable, but u feel the need to take a shot at TD’ers telling them that only about 10% of them can understand it. u take a shot at folk for lack of a coherent framework. to me, his framework seems to be an amalgam of western marxism, skepticism of scientific values that sprung forth from the “enlightenment”, and anti-zionism. and i think he makes that framework cohere as well as it can. i do wish he would proof-read his stuff, but that’s his choice.
i don’t exactly know how to end this post. u seem a little too ready to poke fun at what u perceive to be liberal/progressive inanities. maybe, my disagreement with u is an age thing. i’m 61 and i only feel the need to flame at people online when i feel they are mean or intellectually dishonest…2 things that folk is not. i guess we just pick our spots (to flame)differently.
Report thisBy rfidler, July 8 at 11:11 am #
Amon Drool: Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it. Ok, I’ll give you fifty percent.
Actually, I’ve only been watching TD for about six months. Folktruther stands out because, no matter what the original piece, he always manages to get back to his same tired old bogie-men harangues. He displays absolutely no coherence in his thinking and defends his, shall we say, creative destruction of the English language as a statement of anti-bourgeoise revolutionary solidarity.
I am all over Jeffersonian democracy. He’s one of my political heroes.
Getting back to the thread of this article- I think newspapers are dying solely because of the internet. It’s not content, it’s advertising dollars. I picked up a Washington Post the other day for the first time since leaving the DC area a few years ago. It was anorexic!! I couldn’t believe it. The business section was completely missing- the stock tables are no longer being printed. It’s not because there’s no business news, It’s just that the Post realized people were getting that info on line, so why waste paper.
Report thisBy Amon Drool, July 7 at 4:40 pm #
rfidler sez—skmasksk: Very nice piece. I doubt however that more than ten percent of the posters her on Truthdig will have understood a word of it.
LOLOL…your arrogance is just breath-taking
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rfidler sez to Folktruther: You’re one of the New Puritans, who is worried that someone, somewhere might just have the bad taste to be having a good time while an innocent child somewhere in the world is being murdered by corrupt US policies.
i don’t know how long you’ve been reading here at TD, but folk is known for his thick skin and sense of humor. and, yeah, i agree with u, his western marxist lukacs/gramsci framework can be a bit tedious. but i sense what he is trying to convey when he refers to “population power” is something that americans like jefferson and john dewey would have been very comfortable with…democratising political and economic institutions that are in need of democratising.
Report thisBy rfidler, July 7 at 4:29 pm #
folktruther: Jump over to the Hedges piece.
Report thisBy Folktruther, July 7 at 4:21 pm #
Please excuse me, Fidler, I forgot to add that you are also a disgusting racist, as recently exemplified from your post on Hedges thread. We need more Zionists like you from the gutter. It gives zionism the odor it deseraves.
Report thisBy rfidler, July 7 at 1:03 pm #
folktruther:
Well, your pselling si a litle better. Is it reactionary of me though to expect you to spell Daniel Ortega’s home country “Nicaragua” and not “Nicuarga”? Do you honestly think your new buddy Hugo would take you seriously if he saw your “Venquela” in print. Those aren’t mere typos made in haste. You’re not displaying your revolutionary bona fides against the hetero-normative hegemonic white corporate power structure with your creative spelling, you’re displaying your abject illiteracy, pure and simple.
Now to get you out of that tiny nihilist box you call a philosophy. I don’t claim that you’re ignorant politically or philosophically. I just disagree wholeheartedly with almost all of your positions. If that makes me “ignorant” and “vulgar” in your eyes, so be it. But of course, that’s not debating, that’s name calling.
You rail against the MSM for ignoring the real stories and the real “truth”. What will happen if you win the argument and the MSM starts reporting things the way you’d like? Will you become a fan of the MSM?
Of course not! Your lot in life is to be a permanent outsider, bitching about the way things are, and offering up nothing but tired old platitudes about “population power.” You’re one of the New Puritans, who is so worried that someone, somewhere might just have the bad taste to be having a good time while an innocent child somewhere in the world is being murdered by corrupt US policies.
Of course you agree with PSmith and Anarcissie: You’re all clones. You tell each other what you want to hear. (Do you really believe PSmith’s claim that 500,000 kids under five have been murdered by the US since 2001?)
You’re posts are hilarious and very easy to satirize, but I worry that your anger and negativism are driving you to an early grave.
Report thisBy Folktruther, July 7 at 11:43 am #
You wound me deeply, fidler, by your brutal comments om ny lack of mastery of spelling. My more formal stuff is edited by a really good speller, but here I don’t have the time or patience to focus on literacy, being interested in the ideas of truthers less ignorant and vulgar than yourself. I an striking a blow, with my ideological brother Trith, aganist the rigid dogmatism that there is only one right way to spell a word.
Long ago I realized the distinction between people like Anarcissie and PSmith, who are sincerely interested in truth, and ignorant cyncis like you whose intent is simply to muddy the waters. I don’t respond to them, but your attack on my spelling hurt so I could not repress a cry of anugish.
Report thisBy PSmith, July 7 at 12:36 am #
GOOD, EVIL aka NEOCON, AND THE LAST EIGHT YEARS
In case you’ve been asleep for eight years (lucky you), 2.4 million human beings—Iraqi human beings—were slaughtered, over eighteen years by US New World Order / Neocons in Iraq. 1.4m million in the Iraq War. 1 million more by sanctions. Including 500,000 children under five - “We think it was worth it” - Madeine Albright. 400,000 - GW1. Under Presidents Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 and now Obama. Cheney stands a good chance of going down in history as having run something unfavourably compared to the Gestapo. No mean achievement for him, or the others.
Over seventy percent of the US population don’t think that killing any children under five was worth it. Nor the other 1.9 million human beings. All of whose throats were so carelessly cut on the alter of Moloch, or Mars, by the NWO / Nocons. _That_ was why Obama won by a landslide, however much the few remaining Neocon no-hopers and holdouts dislike it, imo.
@ rfidler, July 6 at 11:57 am #
> Even the most ardent communists’ eyes start to glaze over.
Ho. Ho. Ho. That’s so ‘fifties’. US left and right—Democrat and Republican—are irrelevant to the rest of the world. As is calling anyone a ‘communist’ who either doesn’t self-identify as Democrat or Republican, or with whom one disagrees.
Consider me conservative. Like ‘Norwegian conservative guy’ in the land of plenty in Michael Moore’s Sicko - link below.
Note how the Norwegians held on to their oil wealth. If only Britain had not sold out to the US NWO via the US oil companies. ‘Gee. Thanks Maggy’. Like Venezuela is doing today. The new Norway of South American. But the sight of a newly empowered Venezuela, a country now run by and for those who were formerly strictly in the favelas seems to particularly enrage the US Imperial master. See Honduras for their usual solution.
But the US, too, might be a land of plenty. If the Neocons were booted forwith into the dustbin of history—and if the US people would Just Say ‘No’ to the Neocon’s Reality Distortion field (tm Steve Jobs?)—_That_ is why one’s world view matters. And that is why the Economist is on the wrong side of history.
‘Norwegian conservative guy’, in a land of plenty.- Sicko @ 1.20—
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svSUCbClg8E
Report thisBy PSmith, July 7 at 12:25 am #
@ rfidler, July 6 at 11:57 am #
Advice from Neocons? Thanks but no thanks. I’m trying to cut down.
> psmith: Listen to jackpine. Also- shorten up your posts. Lose the links. Even the most ardent communists’ eyes start to glaze over.
Report thisBy rfidler, July 6 at 6:03 pm #
Anarcissie:
Thank you very much for the insight. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Unfortunately, Folktruther lacks three things: your “coherent framework”, the ability usefully to translate thoughts not his own, and any semblance of mastery of spelling. He may in fact have some useful things to say, but his illiteracy is extremely offputting.
Report thisBy Anarcissie, July 6 at 4:45 pm #
In order to understand abstract ideas (and communicate your understanding), you have to have some sort of coherent framework in which to order and evaluate your perceptions and concepts. If a differing but coherent framework is being used by someone else, but is truthfully professed or can be accurately determined, what is communicated can often be usefully translated into one’s own.
Report thisBy rfidler, July 6 at 2:54 pm #
jackpine: Folktruther is right! Quit filling your mind up with someone else’s take on reality. Do what he does- read the same closed loop, self-congratulatory, self-perpetuating loony tunes mush. You’ll sleep much better at night if you don’t cloud your thinking with strange ideas.
He “reads both sides too”, but only from one side, “the perspective of the ‘population’ against the ‘deception of power’”, whatever the fuck THAT means.
Report thisBy Folktruther, July 6 at 2:13 pm #
What, Jackpine, has reading both the left and right made you? It has made you confused. I like reading your comments because you grasp the central power relations and see through the bullshit, but sometimes you support oppressive power and sometimes the people oppressed by power. What side are you on? You waver, as Marx said of the petite bourgeois, your ancestors.
As is obvious by now, I read both sides too, but from the perspective of the population and against the deception of power. I suggest you meditate, on those unexpectedly long visits to the toilet as Skamacksk puts it, on the destructiveness of oppressive power not only in the US, but in the world history of earthpeople.
But I have to say that I perfer your views to the mush of sentemental liberalism.
Report thisBy rfidler, July 6 at 12:51 pm #
skmacksk: Very nice piece. I doubt however that more than ten percent of the posters here on Truthdig will have understood a word of it.
Report thisBy skmacksk, July 6 at 12:28 pm #
Mr. Hirschorn’s reportorial observations on the Economist are peppered with neologisms,the latest lingo, and apt foreign phrases, that render his comments, ‘assured’,‘smart’, even a point. He of the breezy kitsch style: an amalgam of Time Magazine under Henry Luce, and Cosmopolitan Magazine, under the able leadership of that American nonpareil, Helen Gurley Brown. The Economist represents respectable right wing opinion of the Professionals that are its subscribers,hardly a surprise, and they pay handsomely, to see that respectable opinion ‘objectively’ verified in print. Mr. Hirschorn’s piece, and by implication, his magazine are the more respectable intellectual choice for those unexpectedly long visits to the toilet, and for those whose self-respect make ‘People’ an ill advised choice. Mr. Hirschorn writes magazine articles, and is, quite rightly,concerned about the demise of ‘Print,’ but he is posted here, and is, rest assured, guaranteed a place in the New Pantheon of Opinion and Reportage, the Internet. This new environment more freewheeling and probably ,at the moment, less profitable, is nonetheless,the future of all the opinionators,whose once secure hold on the Media has been rendered moot. Causing intermittent waves of panic, in those dwellers of a Stratosphere that is losing altitude at alarming velocity.
Report thisBy rfidler, July 6 at 11:57 am #
jackpine: Bravo.
psmith: Listen to jackpine. Also- shorten up your posts. Lose the links. Even the most ardent communists’ eyes start to glaze over.
Report thisBy BobZ, July 6 at 11:36 am #
Jackpine Savage:
You have a point about only reading publications you agree with. In defense of progressives, I read quite some time ago that liberals are more likely to read or view opposing points of views than conservatives are. That seems to make some sort of sense given the definition of liberal vs. conservative. I think you need to sort out the views of publications like the Economists who at least have the ability to present their reasoning with intelligence and wit versus publications like the Weekly Standard and the Washington Times who can only spout conservative ideoloogy without much thought behind it. Same goes for commentators like George Will versus extremists like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. I can listen to the former and disagree with him but won’t waste my time with the latter two. Will has the intelligence to state the obvious, that Sarah Palin wasn’t ready for prime time and never will be, whereas Hannity and Limbaugh could never reach that conclusion.
Report thisBy jackpine savage, July 6 at 10:07 am #
Well, yes, The Economist is right wing…i think i said that at least twice. I also read Counterpunch which is hardly right wing. So what does that say about me? PSmith is (and i have no idea where PSmith lives) making the classic, American intellectual mistake of reading only things that s/he already agrees with. That’s a bigger damned problem than the right wing leaning of The Economist.
I’ve spent my fair share of time being made visibly angry by pieces in The Economist. It ran with the bullshit story about the Russia-Georgia War in the same way that the NYT did…for example. (oh, wait, that was one where the liberal blogosphere mostly jumped on the poor little Georgia, bastion of Democracy, getting beat up by big bad Russia too. Shit, who am i supposed to believe now?)
My apologies for being able to read multiple sources and come to my own conclusions…i must be part of the problem. I should probably become more free with my use of the caps lock button too, because that really shows intellectual vigor.
PSmith, i’ll try to do a better job of reading only pre-approved media outlets…i wouldn’t want to sully myself with reading the banned publication list. I should have known better than to run afoul of the reactionaries. That sort of shit will get you sent to the gulag.
Report thisBy bachu, July 6 at 3:59 am #
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beware. the Economist is the unofficial mouthpiece of NATO.
Report thisBy PSmith, July 5 at 1:51 am #
@ Folktruther, July 5 at 12:30 am #
Report thisDon’t worry about the books. It’s the interviews that are the complete revelation. imo.
By Folktruther, July 5 at 12:30 am #
Le carre seems to be repenting in his old age, PSmith. He’s a unique novelist and I’ve read all but a few of his novels, but as to his speaking truth to power, no.
He is a Cold War spy with a marvelous talent for narrative, but he remains one after the Cold War is over. He doesn’t like the new War on Terrorism because 1. he can’t write it and 2. it is a degneration of the Western tradition which he treasures.
His best novel: A PERFECT SPY, largely authobiographical about his father. Second Best: THE HONORABLE SCHOOBOY Third; his most famous novel, TINKER, TAILOR
Report thisBy PSmith, July 4 at 4:23 pm #
JOHN LE CARRE - COLD WARRIOR, WARM-HEART
A HARD COLD LOOK AT THE WORLD
The Economist’s world view is clear but not accurate, with the frightful biases listed previously. Folktruther’s summary is perfect, imo. And succinct. But is the world view in Neocon Political Pedophile Grooming accurate or not?
John le Carre, aka David Cornwell, appears to have a very clear view of the world; an MI-5 man; an MI-6 man; a writer desperate to communicate the true state of the world. He has a stunningly clear view of the world.
Most interesting, and longest interview—Work required to locate each section; mercuryrazvedka has given three different le Carre interviews the same ‘Nightmanager’ title—DOH! Part 1 - Greek TV, subtitles -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1joDEmvEr90
Part 2
@6:00 0n the Cold War “We played a game according to the rules”. “Today ... you cannot have clean hands—now we are reaching a point like the British in Ireland—In order to have an informant you have to allow him to kill.”
@ 7:00 “What do you think spies are?”
- Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1CdXEmC-3g
Part 3
@2:20 Cold War - Balance of Terror. “The dangers of extinction were real.” Cuba crisis - the world was saved by Penkovsky. (Noam Chomsky - “The world was saved by one word from a Soviet submarine captain, Vasili Arkhipov.” One does not exclude the other.)
@ 3:30 “When you declare a War on Terror you create a neurosis among people ... that ceases to be reasonable. You enslave them, actually, to your fears. I don’t believe that we are as much at threat as we are daily told.” “The horror to me, at my time of life, is to see the movie coming round again.” 1998, 1999, 1990 (?dates?) - the chance to remake the world. “There was absolutely no grace or creativity at that moment.”
@4:50 “Under Thatcher, whose influence upon my country I detest ... we dignified greed and materialism. A dignification much extended by Blair.” “These are not the gloomy perceptions of an old man. They are the objective perceptions that anyone can make. My children are making them.”
@7:15 “These days it’s very hard to buy, or to read, uninfluenced, unbought, opinion. Whether in the press or on radio or on television. People are afraid of offending against the corporate or the collective voice. I have always regarded it, not just as a privilege, but as a duty, to speak against authority. I want to speak truth to power. And I recognize that because I have a small voice and it is not dependent upon anyone’s approval I also have that duty to speak.”
- Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eukzmGPDHJE
Search his youtube for ‘Nightmanager’. -
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mercuryrazvedka&view=videos&query=nightmanager+le+carre
The Spy Who Came In From the Cold - “What do you think spies are?” - Richard Burton - five star delivery -
@3:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgHG_prLs5Q
@7:55 *** BINGO *** Why is there a War on (of?) Terror? - Kobra - Swedish TV -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnA4wbuAups
John le Carre - Blacklight VPRO Interview - Dutch TV -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttKgfrzR9vE
Excellent BBC program on le Carre’s life - long -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtoNLPeaxj4
SO, if that is not how you were brought up to see the world, somebody, or something, was doing some Neocon political pedophile grooming.
Don’t take PSmith’s word for it—Take John le Carre’s—Aka David Cornwell’s.
Report thisBy Folktruther, July 4 at 3:22 pm #
PSmith is quite right, Jackpine. The ECONOMIST is a right wing view, as yours tends to be off and on, that gives sharp realistic digests of what is happening all over the world. It is unique, which is why I subscribed to it for a time, and still read it in the library. It tends to subvert the economic fabrications of the American midbrow media, especially about foreign economices, like China.
But it repeats Western Big Lies like the Iran Stolen Election, and invasions, like Iraq and the Malvinas. It is why I canceled my sub; I couldn’t stand supporting this militarism.
What is needed is a sharp digest like the ECONOIST writen from the populations perspective. But there is no ad money to support it. IF cooperatives started adveertising the way profit corps do, they could fund a real alternative to the midbrow media.
I agree, Jackpine, that, nevertheless, it is worth reading in the midst of the fabrications and trivia of the mainstream news.
Report thisBy boggs, July 4 at 12:58 am #
If you’re a liberal, then surely you take the “Progressive Populist”.
Report thisIt covers all the bases, and isn’t just opinions.
It is real news and not propaganda. And it is real paper, comes in my mailbox twice a month.
Lots of plusses there.
By BobZ, July 3 at 4:31 pm #
I like the Economist but only read it occasionally. I don’t always agree with them but they do their homework for the most part. For my liberal fix though I need “The Nation” which really does it’s homework and makes no apologies about its progressive views. Most of the mainstream magazines are way too “white bread” middle class for my tastes - small amounts of intelligent discourse sandwiched between massive slices of pop culture.
Report thisBy PSmith, July 3 at 2:43 pm #
NEOCON POLITICAL PEDOPHILE GROOMING
LEFT, RIGHT, FURTHER RIGHT AND BONKERS RIGHT - THE US
USans are strange creatures. They have been politically pedophile groomed from birth in ways that make Europeans shudder, aghast at the degradation and utter moral poverty inflicted on children. They live from birth in a world of false information and mindless jingoism. Every morning they raise their right arms and ‘salute the flag’. Europeans think that went rather out of style in 1945. In Nazi Germany. It is a wonder that any of them see through this charade and discern, vaguely, the outlines of an alternate view. The view that the rest of the world holds. Holds about the US in particular.
Europe has Marxist-Leninists, Trotskyites and Maoists on the (far) left. It has Socialists on the left. It has Labour just left of the middle. It has Social-Democrats in the center. Then Christian Democrats on the right. It has Conservatives on the (far) right. Then there are the (US) Democrats and Republicans on the (very far) right. And Margaret Thatcher. Mussolini is just beside her with ‘her greatest achievement’ - Tony Blair’s New Labour.
Adolf Hitler is lined up right beside (HA!) the Neocons. Just east of Mussolini and Margaret Thatcher. The (ultra-far) right.
Notice where the Democrats and Republicans are. Six inches apart and off the scale for any hope of governing, were they in Europe. They would be right beside Jean-Marie Le Pen in France and Jorg Haider in Austria; would be fascists.
Why would I care? Imagine that you grew up and were ‘educated’ to believe that between the Democrats and Republicans is the ‘middle ground’. You would have no clue that you had been steered to regard the far right as ‘moderate’ and ‘normal.’
Consider that ‘education’ the Neocon political pedophile grooming of children - namely YOU.
To a European, this is self-evident. As obvious as night and day. But in the US - as rare as hen’s teeth.
Report thisBy jackpine savage, July 3 at 10:27 am #
Oh come on, PSmith. You’ve never read The Economist regularly, have you?
Or maybe you’d like to explain why the publication regularly takes a more progressive stance than the Democratic Party on a great many issues: drugs, the environment, etc.
Yes, it has a slant, but the slant is open and honest. It’s rather easy to remove the facts from the opinion because, unlike in the US media, the opinion isn’t dressed up as fact. What you’re really trying to say is that the only news worth reading is the news/opinion that you agree with. I guess you’re cut out for sticking to the blogs where there is no fact, only opinion and you never have to deal with the opposing point of view.
As for the condescension, perhaps…but it’s rather refreshing to read a newspaper not written at a 6th grade reading level.
I know, i’m wasting my time discussing this with someone who cries about objectivity and then backs up his statements with “Chomsky says…”
Report thisBy PSmith, July 2 at 10:26 pm #
‘THIS ORGAN’ - A NEOCON WALKING CORPSE? WE HOPE SO
The Economist is informative, but its editorials and the slant of its reporting is egregiously pro- Neocon / New World Order / western / militarist / Milton Freedman’s failed policies / imperialist / colonialist / white man’s burden. They have never heard of a Neocon policy that they didn’t adore. They have no idea of a multilateral, multi-polar, multi-ethnic, socially conscious or in any way progressive world view. Nor of anything not jingoistically pro-western, pro-British or pro-Empire. Because it is British it appears to combine a sociopathic corporate world view with the worst snobbery and pretensions of the British class system.
Read it for the facts if you must, but be warned that if you have a heart you will grit your teeth every time you pick it up. Keep reading your (student-discounted) subscription, or, preferably, library copy until somebody remedies these defects with a progressive competitor. When they do, the Economist will very thankfully join the Neocons in the dustbin of history. And you can offer their replacement your financial support.
Other than that it is sometimes useful. It often has articles about issues that become mainstream months or years later. Articles outrageously politically biased—and therefore misleading—to the right naturally. Its editorials are a sick-making Neocon joke.
Noam Chomsky says that the Financial Times and the Wall Street Journal are the most accurate sources of information, ‘because those running businesses have to have a fairly accurate view of the world’. Unlike the view of those who rely on the US MSM. The FT does that without the ridiculous editorials of the WSJ, so the FT is 100% accurate reporting, he says. But on examination the FT appears to share exactly the same highly offensive worldview as those who write for The Economist.
The lickspittles and Neocon toadies who write for the magazine like to affect a lordly condescension to their readers and refer to themselves as ‘this newspaper’. Did they inspire the UK’s devastating satirical magazine Private Eye to mockingly refer to itself with faux-pomposity as ‘this organ’?
Report thisBy jackpine savage, July 2 at 8:10 pm #
I can tell you why. It takes the news seriously; it is engaged in the whole world (arts and culture included); and while it has a defined, editorial stance it also makes that stance clear.
That is, no bullshit about being fair and balanced or objective. It’s fiscally conservative and socially liberal; it makes no apologies for that. It will, however, admit to mistakes and apologize for them. Eg: it supported the Iraq war, apologized, and regularly reminds readers that it wrongly supported the war initially.
And some people think that reading it makes them look highbrow because it’s English…but having a native English but outside the US voice is worth being lumped in with the “Look at me, i’m reading The Economist” crowd.
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