I am not surprised that one of those boys was a Jew; they have suffered more in history than any other group of people, simply by being called out “as God’s chosen people”. They were marginalized and dehumanized by whichever elitist group seemed to hold power at the time. Evil in the name of God is still evil, Evil without the name of God (secular humanism) is still evil; no debate. While those who excuse their conscience all together (Nazi’s, Communist’s…etc.) are happy to marginalize and dehumanized anyone not part of their party who whole heartedly attempt to control the debate; (Marx, “control the discussion/language…and you control the outcome), and force any dissenting voice out of the market place of ideas…so they can control the conversation I am not so intimidated.  I wish the Jews in pre-Nazi Germany would have not flinched at such rhetoric… I think they should have stood UP- not thinking that their enemies would eventually accept them…and confronted them with the solid foundation they had which was something more than rhetoric.  Anarcissie makes my point beautifully.

I suggest ignoring trolls and spammers.

I can’t think of anything that has played a more divisive part in the USA than religion. Religion isn’t necessary to be a citizen, or a good citizen, and certainly the insistence of only one religion’s legitimacy in this country (Christianity) is truly divisive. At least ONE of those boys that went to Miss. with the Freedom Riders was a Jew, after all. *Not a Christian) Our system was designed for secular governance, which existed before Marx, and Dewey and the Communist Manifesto.

Slavery was and is simply evil, and whites look back and say “Really” you couldn’t do better than that? Also remember that a great amount of blood was shed to correct that- although the racism continued there were whites at every step who said NO, it’s WRONG! (not that I am a member of either party any longer)the Republican party was started when Whites in congress demanded that the Blacks of their the same rights in congress!(hostorical fact).
The Democratic south,(mainly prominent kkk) finally “saw the error of their ways” when they hadn’t won an election in years, they superficially extended a hand to blacks in order to win elections! Not because they had wholeheartedly accepted them as their brothers and sisters. (It was still about POWER,CONTROL, wealth and domination)
The 60’s revision of school teaching curriculum targeted history, watered it down and marginalized whites, while faied to mention the violent history or slavery practiced in Africa by Africans, along with the Arabs, Spanish,Portuguese,Dutch and English (the East Indian Trading Co.who only got out of the slave trade because they couldn’t compete w/spain & portugual)” caused further divisions in our country. American whites were not allowed to be portrayed as good willed, fairminded or just and given NO CREDIT for anything good that transpired in our country from it’s foundation. Anyone remember the the northern white kids that went down to Mississippi to make sure the blacks would have the courage to vote? (they were murdered if you remember- Mississippi Burning was based on this) After WWII, under “operation paperclip” (google and study it)Nazis were smuggled into our country in droves as well as various other countries… and our government…gleaned all the knowledge they could- they studied Hitler with facination.  Our Humanist manifesto- the indoctrination of our public shool system and higher education since the early 60’s…
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If you recall, the communist manifesto says: give us a generation, we will take a country.
Marx also said, “we will pull God down out of heaven, which our school books and liberals have tried to do in the market place of ideas ferverently since the 60’s…BUT…a Nation Divided Against itself, cannot STAND. 
Our problems are not each other (as a white- I actually expect whites to “get it and not be a part of the problem”)...it is those who continue to divide us against ourselves for their political gain and and power (not because that they greive for justice)

No doubt there is truth to the adage that ‘property is theft’ - but slavery is quite another order of theft - on a par with murder. Possibly there are institutions still wallowing in the money from that theft of others’ lives and freedoms. Corporations and institutions can live many times ourlife spans.

But why would you ask every citizen of this country, regardless of their ancestry or personal wealth, or origins of their goods, or date of their family’s arrival in the US, to pay reparations to people whose enslaved ancestors are long dead, and who now, although still oppressed by the same system that oppresses me, are represented in every stratum or our society - including the extreme right wing of the Supreme Court, one of the richest people in our nation, and the White house?

Rectification? The way to create justice is to create justice for those who are oppressed NOW - not to heap it onto others whose ancestors may or may not have committed the crime and who themselves are innocent of it. In fact, many non-minority citizens have dismal histories of oppressed forebears themselves. 

And you have a slavery museum to illustrate its evils, for those idiots who still hold some ideal picture of slavery. Children growing up in countries that have been at one time run by genocidal dictators, or ignorant racists, or just greedy sociopaths, need to know what oppression looks like.

Okay—slavery is a wrong which will never be rectified.  In that case I don’t see the point of a museum.  As I said before, one won’t be needed—anyone who wants one can just look around.

In any event, rectification is needed only if you’re going to keep liberalism/capitalism going, because the wrongs of slavery are perpetuated through the liberal system of property.  In accepting the proceeds of slavery, a crime against its most basic principles, the liberal property system contradicts itself, which may lead to its demise and replacement by something at least more humane.

I agree that institutions and corporations that benefitted from slavery should make some form of restitution. That restitution should be aimed at bringing equality to all Americans. The poor of our country. They could also build that much-needed museum of slavery.

I don’t agree that the government should, because its present funds are collected from all of us - ordinary people - and there could be a terrible backlash. We don’t need another century of racism and division. It will only keep the working (and those who would be working if they could get work) class divided along race lines - which will serve only to prevent real change.

There are still institutions in existence which supported and profited from slavery.  These include the U.S. Federal government, the governments of several states, and a number of corporations.  (For information about this, see http://www.yaleslavery.org/YSA.pdf.) The labor stolen from the slaves would presumably have benefited the material estate and social position of their descendants.  Thus, the former owe the latter, at least morally, regardless of the fact that the personal perpetrators and the personal victims are long dead.

I agree, Wasn’t the 21st century kinda understood as the next era of mankind?
Are there really still lessons to learn?
Or is it ourselves we need to learn?

You can neither make reparations, NOR punish those guilty of enslaving them. They are all dead. We no longer hold people responsible for the “sins of their fathers,” nor should we.

The guilty are long dead.  Long live the innocent!

The point of reparations is not to improve the victims, it is to restore to the guilty the possibility of honor and justice.

adrienrain
Very well said

In the 21st century we still worship a sun god. can we actually move on to that which matters now and for the future?
I sincerely hope so

Contemptuous though it may be, very few on earth are not descended from either the oppressed or the oppressors - and most likely, from both. Nothing we can do to the descendants of slaves or of sweated workers of a bygone era, or of those whose goods and land were stolen, will relieve the suffering of those long dead victims. The very best we can do is to turn our attention to those who suffer NOW.

It is the ‘reparations’ idea that has turned a prosperous, up-and-coming nation like Israel into a nation of victims who justify the horrors they inflict on Palestinians by the horrors they suffered under German nationalists - no, the horrors suffered by an earlier generation under German nationalists.

You’re not going to get equal education because the state does not produce most education.  Parents, relatives, neighbors and friends do.  If all your kith and kin are poor and discriminated, then that’s what you learn, regardless of how much money may be pumped into the official school system (which in any case will be deeply permeated with the values and practices it is supposed to be eliminating).

As for the money, in non-communist justice, if one owes the money, one pays up, regardless of who’s rich and who’s poor.  But I know this isn’t going to happen, so we might as well stop talking about it.  Let’s be honest enough to say “You’re getting nothing,” though, and not try to fob off the descendants of the slaves with toys like mournful monuments and pious speeches.  I think that sort of thing is really contemptuous.

Whoever it was that the British (I like the ‘brutish’ however) compensated - it wasn’t the descendants of those who were driven off of their land, having watched their children starve, and having been turned out to live in ditches by their landlords. And you are right. In general, the Irish have done well here. But that is part of the argument against reparations. Should working class people of all colors and classes be taxed to pay all black people regardless of their status? Should white ‘trailer trash’ (just so you remember there’s more than one kind of hate speech) be taxed to give money to Oprah - fine human being that she is? Or Clarence Thomas? I think you can see the trap in this. Efforts designed to equalize the playing field have to be aimed at class, not race. Or else, you will be setting off a match in a tinder box.

I said the need is for equality. State communism can’t achieve that. Certainly our present corporatism won’t. Decentralization and mutual aid might - if we aren’t too lazy to govern ourselves. But for now, I’d settle on equality in education, health care, and an end to laws designed to keep minorities and others in serfdom. Those steps are big enough to accomplish in this century.

adrienrain:
GWHitler - There are artifacts of slavery, with or without a museum. And photographs galore of mistreated slaves.

I agree, however, with another writer, that it is time to address the injustices that have occurred within living memory and that are taking place now.

My Irish ancestors suffered greatly during the ‘famine’ in which enough food to feed both England and France was shipped out of Ireland! They came here in ‘coffin ships’ and lived here in dire poverty, too. I’d like the British government to reimburse me - but the fact is, that I didn’t suffer all that - I just want the money!

Let’s work on disparities in income, education, jobs, incarceration rates, and health care. What more could all of our ancestors have wanted for their descendants than an even break? ...
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Actually, the Brutish did eventually pay, not for the Famine, but for some of the prior land theft.  And in America, although the Irish were given a hard time, they were eventually allowed to become more or less White.

The problem with “working on disparities”, unless you mean their complete disappearance in a transition to communism, is that the disparities are not an accident of nature but the results of a gigantic series of crimes some of which have continued to this very day, yet the beneficiaries of the crimes will be permitted to construe their “working on” as welfare or charity and the crimes as some sort of natural disaster which nobody was responsible for and nobody benefited from.  Crime cannot be expiated in this way; if it can be expiated at all, it must be through admission of guilt and, if possible, restitution.  If it’s not going to be expiated, why keep fooling around with it?

GWHitler - There are artifacts of slavery, with or without a museum. And photographs galore of mistreated slaves.

I agree, however, with another writer, that it is time to address the injustices that have occurred within living memory and that are taking place now.

My Irish ancestors suffered greatly during the ‘famine’ in which enough food to feed both England and France was shipped out of Ireland! They came here in ‘coffin ships’ and lived here in dire poverty, too. I’d like the British government to reimburse me - but the fact is, that I didn’t suffer all that - I just want the money!

Let’s work on disparities in income, education, jobs, incarceration rates, and health care. What more could all of our ancestors have wanted for their descendants than an even break?

Affirmative action became hated by some because it ignored CLASS. Any program aimed at helping poor Blacks and Latinos, had better benefit poor whites as well, or there will be more hell to pay, and another generation of racist skinheads, and other atrocities.

But that is what the ruling class won’t want. If the working class and poor of this nation unite without regard to ancestry, they are in big trouble. Don’t be fooled by those who seek to keep us divided.

“Yet you mo-fos BENEFITED from it dammit.”—grumpynyker

Hmmmm, one might argue that blacks living in America today benefitted from slavery just like whites did.  A rising economic tide raises all ships.  Or would you rather live in Haiti—the first post-colonial independent black-led nation in the world.  Golly, they sure did a great job once they cast of the yoke of white oppression, eh grumpnyker?

“do you think for one minute, African Americans aren’t reminded of Slavery on a daily basis??”—Virginia777

Do you think for one nanosecond that White Americans aren’t reminded of slavery on a daily basis??  African Americans won’t shut up about it long enough to give anybody else a chance to whine about being a hard-luck case! 

To tell you the truth, I don’t even believe slavery existed.  Were it as bad as everybody claims, then where are all the museums?  Hmmmm?  All great human tragedies have museums after all.

“All their scum ancestors had was little to no black competition for jobs/land.”—grumpynyker

In fact, it was very hard for the Irish—who arrived in large numbers much later than Africans, btw—to compete with all that free slave labor.  Yessiree, most slaves didn’t know how good they had it until they were free to sharecrop.  Then they got to be slaves AND pay rent.

Everyone today feels like they deserve something and generally the wrong people win out..
Tired of my white British countryfolk complaining about immigration, of course it’s a problem, there’s too many to actually sort out and also deal with the established residents.
Israel, well to be honest I find that’s taking liberties, run from one facist state to start your own?
What about all the other innocents in WW2 that we don’t hear much of? Coming from the people who suicide bombed British troops then claim innocence when it happens back.
Tired of hearing about the slave trade of an different era of humanity.
Let us end the injustices that happen today, use any possible reparations to fight it happening again not to get a nice house for a family that never experienced anything but western comfort.
Let us stop these crazy leaders (i’m still waiting for Obama to take us by suprise, the perfect candidate to lull us), time has shown by sheer numbers alone we can make the powers change.
Let us choose our paths, not the mediated life we are told to complain about.
There is a big difference in learning from the past and holding on to something that has moved on.

I know that’s what people think about Lincoln, but you have to rmeember he was a politician. The Republican Party was begun as an antislavery party, and those who supported him had that in mind all the time.

“During the course of the debates, Lincoln and Douglas presented two sharply contrasting views of the problem of slavery. Douglas argued that slavery was a dying institution that had reached its natural limits and could not thrive where climate and soil were inhospitable. He asserted that the problem of slavery could best be resolved if it were treated as essentially a local problem.

Lincoln, on the other hand, regarded slavery as a dynamic, expansionistic institution, hungry for new territory. He argued that if Northerners allowed slavery to spread unchecked, slaveowners would make slavery a national institution and would reduce all laborers, white as well as black, to a state of virtual slavery.

The sharpest difference between the two candidates involved the issue of black Americans’ legal rights. Douglas was unable to conceive of blacks as anything but inferior to whites, and he was unalterably opposed to Negro citizenship. “I want citizenship for whites only,” he declared. Lincoln said that he, too, was opposed to “bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races.” But he insisted that black Americans were equal to Douglas and “every living man” in their right to life, liberty, and the fruits of their own labor.”
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/database/article_display.cfm?HHID=336

I am sure FREDERICK Douglas - and other abolitionists -  would have appreciated a much firmer stand, but I am equal certain that if Lincoln wanted to win, he would have to play a cagey game.

OK, let’s say that Lincoln never intended to free the slaves. It was all an accident - running on the antislavery party ticket, opposing the expansion of slavery, plunging into war, and finally, freeing the slaves.  It would have been nicer if he could have waved a wand.

BlackJackDavis, that war was to save the union, kind of a capitalist idea, it was not to free the slaves. Freeing of the slaves was an afterthought on Lincolns part, and he has been credited with it ever since. It gave him a justification for the war kind of like Bush used WMD’s that he never could locate.

@ Anarcissie

Its maby bether to speek of people who are onest and have a clear head, and are good and tru humanists, men as you sayd are all ready here, and will allways be here to enslave us.

What we need is equality. All of us. It’s the only thing we need. To compensate one part of the citizenry for past wrongs would set off a firestorm of competitive victimhood, and fuel racism.

Equality would fix it, but the most powerful people want nothing to do with it. Cause then THEY would be equal, and they prefer being rich and powerful. In order to do that, it is helpful - no, invaluable -  to pit us against one another, so we fight viciously over crumbs and argue about whose ancestors were the most abused. They don’t care what color their slaves are - just so long as they don’t get together.

I did not experience Segregation or Apartheid, rather I was born into a society that covers it’s racism under a veneer of Charter schools, cheap junk food, drugs, guns and job discrimination. But I’m not ever going to forget what has been done physically or mentally to people of my color or religion throughout history. I will not forget it and I will not forgive it. Why should I when it is still happening, albeit on a sly, stealthy scale? I know bullshit when I see it.

Not all the descendants of those corrupt generations are like their forefathers. Anybody can be enlightened, I truly believe that. The sins of the father are not necessarily the sins of the son. But the son cannot dare ask the sins of his father to be forgiven for something like Segregation or Apartheid. It’s just not possible. This is no personal black mark on the son or the son’s sons. But it will forever be a mark on his entire generation. That’s just how it is.

So they can take their “sorry” and shove it for all I care. It means nothing to me. They want forgiveness, they can ask God for it. He’s the only one who can truly judge what has transpired, and He is the greatest of forgivers.

But Johannes—look at the damage that the people who did have big ideas caused.  I’m thinking of Napoleon, Bismarck, Lenin, Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin.

If you must have monarchs, better to stick with street vendors and pickpockets.

Aye

about time.
Will there be an apology coming soon to all women?
Let’s not forget who was the ‘slave to the slave’too.
and if Reparations are in order, will women be getting their remaining back pay for not only the equla work they did for Unequal pay- but also for all those duties which have always been provided for free? How much will we get for millenia of washing the brown racing stripe out of mens underwear?
It’s a nice Gesture, but it resolves nothing if discrimination lives on. We have a president who is still elicits racial slurrs from Cowards, a SCOTUS nominee who is discredited merely because she has a period (Liddy- Ya Asshole!)and a Speaker of the House who is blatantly referred to by her Genitalia (Pussy Galore?!?). I have no doubt there are many who voted for this bill who figure ‘good enough, We apologized’ and will then turn around and walk out to the media and prove they have no intention of changing their racist/sexist ways.
Don’t just Say you are sorry,Prove it! Quit the Racist/Sexist discriminatory acts and rhetoric once and for all! Apologize for what YOU said and did last week, not what someone dead SOB did 200 years ago!

@ RootJensen

The future comes from the past, our Europe will go down with this mixed lot of egôist.

The people wo must lead us, have the spirit of some street vendors, no great minds no great idées, just pickpocketing.

Salutation

Honestly, there are too many humans and no real bond between us as slightly different versions of each other to keep going the way we are.
It pains me to say maybe we do need one final mass self destruction event to make us ALL be more ‘Humane’.
I hope that in England (my home) the influx of migrants and new families will eventually, over generations, mix well and work well together.
Let us try concentrate our future, we have failed our past. :(

Reparations cannot erase the harm, but reparations sure would ease the pain!
We owe this debt and we’ve been delinquent for too many years. Lets pay up and earn back a little credibility.
As for Pat Buchanan, I think he would look great shackled and peeping out of a crib at the bottom of a ship HEADED FOR AFRICA!!!

Virginia777:
’ ... and to Anarcissie:

do you think for one minute, African Americans aren’t reminded of Slavery on a daily basis??’

I think the question is whether they want to be, especially by stuffed White shirts working on their piety and pulling long faces in front of a mausoleum once a year.

The Federal government of the United States not only condoned slavery, it supported it actively.  The whole country, and many other countries, profited from the slave trade and the stolen labor of the slaves.  Someone should sue.

Maybe the answer is, If you want a museum of slavery, just look around.

and to Anarcissie:

do you think for one minute, African Americans aren’t reminded of Slavery on a daily basis??

Of course a Museum should be founded to explore the depths of Hate that happened here,

if only to end some of the hate, racism and misunderstanding we are living with now.

and to Cynthia J.:

that sure would be nice for YOU wouldn’t it?? for them to “move on”.

you sure have “moved on” from any understanding of American Slavery.

“Where are the slavery museums?  Isn’t it funny we have all these Holocaust museums and memorials, and it didn’t even happen here? Imagine Germany without Holocaust museums or memorials, but maintaining numerous museums and memorials gravely honoring the victims of slavery in America. Wouldn’t that be weird?”

I’m with you, Ed Harges, 100%!!

where in the Hell ARE the Slavery Museums?? our American Holocaust.

(that lastest so much longer, and was on American soil)

Cynthia,

you are completely out of touch with reality. tell me when was the last time you worked or volunteered in the inner city?  you have no clue what you are talking about, but continue a long american tradition: blaming the victim.

Ed Harges:
‘Where are the slavery museums?  Isn’t it funny we have all these Holocaust museums and memorials, and it didn’t even happen here? Imagine Germany without Holocaust museums or memorials, but maintaining numerous museums and memorials gravely honoring the victims of slavery in America. Wouldn’t that be weird?’

It is kind of weird.
I did see a small slavery museum not far from Memphis.  I think it was in Mississippi.  Small-town sort of thing, I suspect maintained mostly by White people, but not making light of anything or focusing on anything very favorable to the Old South.

But I question whether museums for catastrophes are a good thing.  There is a Holocaust museum near where I work in downtown Manhattan, and also an Irish Famine memorial.  I avoid both.  A Jewish friend who also doesn’t like such things said to me once, “If you advertise something like the Holocaust, then there are going to be people who will start thinking that maybe it was a good thing, and that they could do it too, and get away with it.”

In any event the Holocaust museums didn’t stop genocide in Rwanda or Cambodia.  They didn’t stop ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia—or Palestine.  If I were Black, I would prefer not to be reminded of slavery, especially if the people carrying on about it didn’t propose to do anything about it but build mausoleums and piously pull long faces once a year.

@ Ed Harges

If so, you are absolutely right.

But don’t forget this creations of Jewes monuments,
has every thing to do with the politics of to day, and nothing with love for the Jewes people.

But for this past and ongoing slavery the feeling has every thing to do with love for beaten and misused people, but don’t over do it, it comes with humanety, how shamefull it is.

Another crumb from the Obama Administration. Get over it, African-Americans, your reparations have been given to the Wall Street Bankers. There isn’t anything left but while the subject is slavery, what do you call women and children brought into this country illegally, who work 18 hours a day keeping house for rich people?

What do you call the African child who works 18 hour days, six days a week, harvesting the cocoa for that chocolate bar?

Slavery is alive and well, and if Americans really cared about human rights they’d put a stop to the practice immediately. Reparations cannot erase the harm done (although it would be the right thing to do) but we can at least put a stop to the slavery happening here and now.

Where are the slavery museums?  Isn’t it funny we have all these Holocaust museums and memorials, and it didn’t even happen here? Imagine Germany without Holocaust museums or memorials, but maintaining numerous museums and memorials gravely honoring the victims of slavery in America. Wouldn’t that be weird?

Black Americans, descendents of slaves should by all means get reparations. I believe we owed each of their slave ancestors 40 acres and a mule, and if we put interest on that for all the late years of non-payment, we now owe them more than the cost of healthcare. Its time to pay up people. Admit you’ve been wrong and pay up.

Vote for Global Reset

@ Fadel Abdallah

I think you are speaking before your turn, try to learn something, reed some books, about the human history.

Slavery still go’s on, specially in the Arab countrys, the small boys and girls are still flowing in, they are black so wath, thats wath the Arabs say, and they are non Moslims.

The USA slaves, game in for the plantations of the Brits and Frans famelies in 4 states, that it wash onhuman is shure, thats wy they the northeren states took to war against the southren states.

The great and strong USA, wash build in the mid west, by the white slaves, and the genie of the freethinking men,as Edison, Ford, and others, not in the cotten beld.

Salutations

Too little too late! Besides, where is the beef to compensate those who built America with real human sweat, and on top of that they received the worst treatment accorded by man to man in modern human history!

“boohoo, get over yourselves, we need a real congress, goin to take it back in 2010 then Palin will seal the deal in 2012 and this madness will end!!”—Shelley

That’s funny!  I hope you’re being sarcastic.  Otherwise, I can only assume that you’re wearing a tinfoil hat and reading Ayn Rand. 

I hope to hell Palin does get the nomination in 2012.  With a moron like the first lady of white trash as the only option, Obama can pretty much do anything he wants and still get reelected.

Well bless their sorry black hearts!
I wonder how many of their familys still spend from the fortunes made from the blood and sweat of those slaves?
You sorry assed legislators who have never done an honest days work!

Look, someone is always getting the short end and it takes a long time to cure social ills.  As I understand it, the rationale for reparations is that the forebears of African Americans were not afforded the same opportunities as everyone else.  Consequently, the lives of African Americans today have not been built on the same sort of prospertity that others enjoyed.  They are therefore behind the eightball, socio-economically speaking.  Well, if that’s the case, then I want my reparations too.  I’m of Irish and French Canadian extraction—that’s right, you Anglo bastards, I’m a McFrog—and I know that members of both cultural groups have been treated like second class citizens in this country at some point in the past.  Gimme my money!!!  Gimme gimme gimme!  Not only that, but I’m left handed too!!!  This whole society is set up against me.  Lefties have considerably shorter life expectancies than the oppressive Righties do because the ENTIRE WORLD is dangerously rightcentric.  So gimme my money for that too!!!!  GODDAMNIT!!!!  I WANT MY MONEY NOW!!!

First of all reed your human history book again!!!!!!

So you think slavery has stopt, now not so, still going on in Africa, in all Arabic country you will find to day slaves.

In India in China people are enslaved every day!!!!!!

So there where black slaves sold bij black Africans, to work in the plantages in the Islands and America, south and north.

Full boat loads of white Europeêns arrived in Elis Island, slaves, working in the mines of the familie guggenheim, and others.

And now every body is inslaved by the modern way of inslaving people by debts and guilts, no freedom, close your mouth, and work, we have lost our freedom by the way they have pud us op for money, but the point is every body is responsible for his own deeds, also every slave, lots of old tribes did kill themselfs and there loved ones, instead to go and live in slavery.

to juandejesus: you are calling basic social services to the poor “reparations”, along with “incarceration fees”?? give me a break.

Your comment alone is an example of the ignorance/avoidance people in this country have of the nightmare of slavery.

Well, I am sorry about U.S. Senators ! where do I send the note of apology ??

Its not enough!!

An apology, 144 years later! give me a break.

And what a coincidence that 2009 is also the year the U.S. boycotted the UN Racism Forum! (which they above all countries should have been at)

is this supposed to be some sort of consolation prize?

Yeah wow great. Now what about the original victims of American genocide? Apologies to America’s Native Nations? Reparation?

Reparations!