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Dobbs Takes a DivePosted on Jun 10, 2009
It seems that immigrant bashing isn’t the ratings fertilizer it used to be. Just ask CNN blowhard Lou Dobbs, who hitched his wagon to a xenophobia boomlet only to discover that angry white men are a fickle bunch.
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By boggs, June 19 at 1:51 pm #
Turns out that Lou is just another “angry white man.”
Report thisAnd his rhetoric is tiresome to say the least.
By samdfred, June 15 at 7:14 pm #
I used to enjoy watching Lou Dobbs. I did not always agree with him, but, I felt he had integrity. Since he has devolved into show after show of immigrant bashing I can no longer watch his show without getting angry. Its too bad because I think he is playing to the lowest common denominator now and no longer represents the middle class that he was so proud of.
Report thisBy Pat Hardiman, June 15 at 4:00 pm #
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When Dobbs does take aim at something he does a creditable job of researching and reporting it which is more than you can say for - well, all the rest of them. But this illegal immigration thing is losing steam simply because these guys are all going back where they came from. There are plenty of other very important issues he could and should get involved in and he’d better do it if he wants to survive. Personally I would like to see him get his teeth into what really happened on 9/11.
Report thisBy The Gay Species, June 14 at 6:28 pm #
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I agree that Dobbs has risen to xenophobia, but he’s still basically right. Entry into the U.S. should be according to the Rule of Law, not the lawlessness of the Bush Administration, expropriating cheap labor to make the economy seem sound when it was anything but.
Xenophobia is repugnant, but asking people to wait their turn, apply for a visa, to avoid expropriation of labor, is hardly xenophobia. We will always rely on immagrants, but after the Eastern European fiasco at the turn of the last century, ASSIMILATION requires at least one generation have lived here before a “boat lift” of foreigners invade.
Report thisBy Cathy, June 14 at 2:48 pm #
Like Photoshock, I also watched Lou Dobbs for a while. He was very good when he did his “Attack on the Middle Class” tour, because it wasn’t centered on immigration. I remember he talked about health care a lot. But then it became the same old, same old, and the economy took are of most of the illegal immigration situation.
Health care is the big issue right now for the middle class. Obama has put it on the front burner and every plan, except for single payer, is going to hurt the middle class. As long as the insurance industry and pharma and the AMA (only 25% of doctors belong) are in the middle class and poor are screwed. His ratings would spike tomorrow if he started talking about single payer and all the other issues having to do with health care.
Report thisBy Carli Munoz, June 12 at 2:48 pm #
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By the way,it is not that I’m am opposed to solid immigration laws—I’m opposed to the idea of a mayor network news anchor continually advocating his own sick agenda.
PS. My previous comment translate to: “Each swine has his 24th of December coming”; meaning that his time is up—in many Spanish countries a pig gets slaughtered on Christmas eve!
Report thisBy Carli Munoz, June 12 at 2:36 pm #
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A cada lechón le llega su 24 de Diciembre.
Report thisBy BobZ, June 12 at 2:09 pm #
Dobbs like his contemporary O’Reilly have turned into middle aged white guys with an axe to grind. In O’Relly’s case, he keeps his audience titulated with culture warrior stories that stir up the base. Dobbs is just plain boring with his pit bull determination to beat the illegal immigration story to death, when the rest of America has moved on. And contrary to the CNN spokesperson, Dobbs does a very poor job of covering any subject other than illegal immigration. His reporting bias leans very right, close to Hannity-right. So if you’re looking for unbiased news reporting, Dobbs is not your man. He also comes across as mean spirited which doesn’t help him. Add to that his permanent staff who don’t do more than just agree with everything Dobbs says. Even by the mediocrity of the cable news networks, Dobb’s show is pretty lame.
Report thisBy Twin Towers, June 11 at 9:25 pm #
Lou had a good issue until this present economic collapse and the jobs dried up. Since I live in Texas, I have watched the change happen, quickly.
I knew that he was not the least bit Xenophobic. That is a false charge. He is just older and slower to focus on a primary issue he can get his head around. You can bet that will change. Once the does, he will know his subject and contribute to the public debate. He must not be into healthcare and the insurance scam, yet. He skipped over the investment banking debacle and Mozilla and the Countrywide mess.
It is true that the clock is ticking and he will not be allowed to blather away about secondary issues, like O’Reilly and that burned-out bunch of has-beens.
Report thisBy Animadverto, June 11 at 6:03 pm #
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His slide in the ratings has nothing to due with his so called “xenophobia” but, in fact, his propagandist stance on “green shoots”, that don’t exist, and the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Report thisBy Paracelsus, June 11 at 9:47 am #
Teuton? I wasn’t aware that this was the 1st century bc.
Swedes are what make Sweden Swedish. I know that is redundant, but I can’t think of Sweden as Swedish if they accede to al-sharia law, and family honor codes. And the recent economic refugees don’t seem to be assimilating. With current low birth rates for Swedes and high birth rates for Arab/Moslem populations, you could have an essentially Arab/African population in Sweden.
Now we are very concerned with preserving the cultures and peoples of First Nations, American Indians, African pygmies and Australian aboriginals. Shouldn’t the Swedes be concerned with their self preservation?
Report thisBy Purple Girl, June 11 at 9:29 am #
One Trick Pony….Does his daughter’s illegal Mexican’s Groom him before the show, too?
Report thisDobbs is like all the other racist Hypocrits, bitching about Illegals in the same breath while screaming at Jose to shine his daughters riding boots before she enters the show ring.
It is actually mind boggling how easily these people talk out of both sides of their mouths at one time. Perhaps they are incorporating the other round orifice, like ventriloquist in reality. Oh they bitch about their ‘laziness’, their ‘stupidity’, their ‘demands’ for decent pay, housing or safety, their ‘shiftiness’...yet they continue to hire them. In fact they hire all these family members too. Then complain they are ruining our country.These are nothing more than modern day Plantation owners complaining and blaming the slaves for their woes.
Anyone who is a labor advocate, including Union members should be fighting for the rights of these workers- the represent the ‘floor’- the lowest level the Plantation owners wish to push ALL labor down to. In fact it is more aptly called the Subfloor.
They use this shadow workforce not only to increase profit margins, but as threats and scapegoats to the other workers. ‘Won’t accept these conditions, then I’ll hire a Mexican to take your job, who will’.
It’s time to stop wastng our time,effort and money on seeking out every illegal immigrant who submits an application - it’s time to go after those who accept the application and offer the job.If these people had decent well paying jobs in their own country- they wouldn’t be here in the first place.This is not just an American Worker issue this is a global labor force issue. This sweatshop mentality and Globe Trotting to find the cheapest indentured slave population must end.Human rights Always Trumps Corp Interests! Bring wages up around the world and what will happen….an increase in comsumerism throughout the world market.Win/win.
By Dar, June 11 at 12:37 am #
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Paracelsus, June 10 at 6:56 pm:
” In Sweden, native Teutonic women face intimidation, even rape from immigrant Moslem communities.”
Teuton? I wasn’t aware that this was the 1st century bc.
Report thisBy rockinrobin, June 10 at 8:56 pm #
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never listened to the man; however, Leno’s neighbor got a bill of $28,000 for breaking his arm; does it cost that much to fix a broken arm? NO. But when the AGENDA of the POLITICAL system in the USA is to TARGET and HARM for PERSONAL PROFIT & GAIN; much is to be GOTTEN when they DELIBERATELY working together as a unit, inflate prices of homes? No? Corps have even gone right into Congress with lawyers & said THIS is how we want it done & gotten it so WELL do they WORK together as a UNIT and the TARGET of course is US the PEOPLE; replacing us with others is what Dobbs tried to get across; bringing IMMIGRANTS in from NATIONS where our Gov has set up the SAME EXACT criminal system; Live LARGE, be in CHARGE, do whatever you want whenever you want however you want & never be brought to justice. BTW, THIS is the REASON they DELIGHT in getting contracts to get schools built etc; they KNOW how much INFLATED the PRICES on COSTS are: and they POCKET the REST; it is LEGAL to be CRIMINAL in the USA; ask our Congress. Exploitation is the PROBLEM not capitalism; but a CRIMINALIZED GOV working WITH CORPS against the people; BTW, they are TRYING to get the PEOPLE to have to pay CORP taxes on top of their own; carrying out Hitler’s agenda in the world; Corps running EVERY nation; gosh, any WONDER every other nation KNOWS that WE have been enslaved by Corps with the most corrupt Gov on the planet?
Report thisBy photoshock, June 10 at 8:35 pm #
At one point, I too, was sucked into the quagmire of Lou Dobbs’ belief system of anti-immigrant stances.
Report thisHe is a very beguiling and charismatic character, who presents a well researched and emotive argument. But that’s where he stops, at CNN/HLN his ideas drew much attention.
He was the only true mainstream media person who attempted to talk about the then current immigration and border problems.
Now however, the economy and foreign policy are front and center issues and Mr. Dobbs in his ‘infinite wisdom’ has not moved from those issues to the newest things on the minds of those in his target audience. It seems to me, that the largely white, upper and middle class male, has abandoned the cause of Mr. Dobbs. They are now more concerned with the world’s view of America, the tanking economy and how they are going to survive the worsening economic crises, in the manner to which they have become accustomed. Should Mr. Dobbs turn his attention to these matters, then maybe he could regain his audience, but Obama bashing is not the way to the hallowed halls of audience attention.
Mr. Dobbs, is now on the way out of the mainstream media and will eventually do the same thing as all the rest of the wannabe Obama bashers, and will join the Faux News Network, and become the sensation of the day there. Much like the Glenn Beck debacle, he will draw attention for a time but hopefully sooner than later, Mr. Dobbs will fade into the place where he truly belongs, being a legend in his own mind.
By Paracelsus, June 10 at 6:56 pm #
@ Leefeller
Always the blame game, so immigration is the reason our country is sucking wind, and all this time I believed it was caused by gay rights and abortion, the jews, the blacks and anyone but the old white guys who love to send our kids to senseless wars and manipulate reality.
Too much immigration and laxity on illegal aliens is one problem among many. Gays, Jews, and blacks don’t really benefit from the onslaught as many of those immigrant/illegal alien cultures look down upon them. Many Muslim and Latin American immigrant/illegal alien communities have a really sour attitude toward them. In France, French Jews are more likely to be victimized by Arab immigrant communities. In Sweden, native Teutonic women face intimidation, even rape from immigrant Moslem communities. I suppose if one were anti-semitic or homophobic or misogynistic, it would be the perfect cleansing of society to let in tons of legal and illegal aliens. Even better is for an antisocial elite who needs the chaos and cheap labor of these migrants to push for massive social engineering. It is patently illiberal to have an open border policy, for it treats all of humanity as being as fungible and indistinguishable as cattle.
Report thisBy rylly, June 10 at 5:59 pm #
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Report thisBy Leefeller, June 10 at 5:38 pm #
Always the blame game, so immigration is the reason our country is sucking wind, and all this time I believed it was caused by gay rights and abortion, the jews, the blacks and anyone but the old white guys who love to send our kids to senseless wars and manipulate reality.
Division and fear are great tools fostering public attention on non issues, divisiveness so useful for the constant diversion from the puppeteers of the Punch and Judy show.
Ignorance provides lackey supporters for the Libaughs of the world, are they really effective?
Report thisIt is almost as if fanatics, people who need Limbaugh like religion were already unhappy in their lives, symbiotic relationships of misfits. The need to hate and fan the fires of hate are most important in the distractions.
By Paracelsus, June 10 at 5:29 pm #
@ bluelori
The correct term is Illegal Aliens attempting to change the terminology does not change the truth.
You are correct. The main issue now is getting E-verify funded, and the Democratic majority has been very stubborn about funding it.
Report thisBy bluelori, June 10 at 4:31 pm #
The correct term is Illegal Aliens attempting to change the terminology does not change the truth.
Report thisBy G.Anderson, June 10 at 4:31 pm #
Well, the issue of immigration may also have slowed because, the immigration laws are being enforced a little bit better, and there is less immigration, due to the economy.
Try not to confuse the issues, Dobbs isn’t the issue, immigration is. Saying that Mr. Dobbs is just the representative of angry white men and a blowhard is demaining and predjudiced, and simplifies the issues to the detriment of everyone involved in this debate.
There are many thousand of people in minority groups, many of them former immigrants themselves, who favor restrictions on immigration.
Report thisBy rockinrobin, June 10 at 4:23 pm #
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the MEDIA is being SILENCED on MANY THINGS: working with our LAWLESS LEADERS and even LOCALLY as in the COUNTY REFUSING requests to “let the PEOPLE KNOW!” by county commissioners; you see, it is NOT democracy at all folks; it is FASCISM: it is not even a TWO party system: cuz the AGENDA is the SAME target & harm for personal gain & profit; CRIMINALLY run GOV;
Report thisDO NOT blame the IMMIGRANTS: blame the ROOT CAUSE of the PROBLEM: a CRIMINALLY RUN CORRUPT GOV who does in TRUTH not even RECOGNIZE the PEOPLE at all nor do they have ANY RIGHTS at all until you are a CORPORATION: THEN you have RIGHTS, and are RECOGNIZED; my my my: what they PEOPLE have to say is NOTED however THIS is the way it will BE!
NOTE: close friends with China for decades despite the “misleading & deceiving” political they claim talk: which is out & out LYING: they told them years ago to put up a Congress; pretend to “listen” to the PEOPLE: write the laws they want (put on the books for looks) people will leave you alone; do whatever you choose;
Immigrants were given large sums of $; brand new cars/trucks/job preferences/no interest loans like $3,000 for dental work ALL the while CITIZENS were being DELIBERATELY overbilled; for EVERYTHING; including CRIMINAL interest rates & FRAUDULENT addl fees put on everything including houses all with GOV oversight, knowledge & consent; (we are BROKE) is the LIE: all kinds of $ at both state & fed levels folks; but the PEOPLE are so STUPID they will believe ANYTHING! ESP when from an AUTHORITY figure!
BTW, JOURNALISTS have been targeted & killed on orders from PENTAGON: http://www.democracynow.org; army whistleblower; kept out of Mexico, & Iraq & everywhere else; DETAINED illegally; yep, THIS is the FREEDOM folks they want to PUT GLOBALLY on EVERYONE. FALSE reports, FALSE pictures, FALSE so called SCIENTIFIC reports; FALSE democracy; my my my;
By wagonjak, June 10 at 2:57 pm #
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I watched some of Lou’s early shows, and I had hope that he would be a champion of the working man, but for the last couple of years, he’s been able to blame anything wrong in the US on Obama and the Dems…and on the immigrants!
If he were entertaining or insightful it would be one thing, but he’s just another angry old white guy who spins the news in a Faux Noise manner!
Totally unwatchable!
Report thisBy Paracelsus, June 10 at 2:30 pm #
Either the media isn’t covering the immigration issue in Congress or Obama and the Congressional leadership have decided to leave the issue alone so as to introduce legislation again after Dobbs and other restrictionists have suffocated from lack of oxygen. The best thing Bush and the Dems did for the immigration restrictionists was to keep pushing the issue. This gave the open borders lobby plenty of public scrutiny. And it gave Dobbs plenty of grist for the mill. Such unpopular legislation has to be sneaked in before the anti-amnesty opposition has a chance to flood the Capitol with angry responses.
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