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Miss California to Lose Her Tiara?Posted on May 5, 2009
Over the course of a couple weeks, Carrie Prejean—model, Miss California and marriage moralizer—has kicked up her fair share of controversy, and now she could be in danger of losing her title for taking her crusade against gay marriage past the parameters set by her pageant contract and for posing seminude four years ago.
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By BruSays, May 8, 2009 at 7:30 pm Link to this comment
Yep, it’s just a friggin’ beauty contest and she can say whatever she wants to say.
Yep, so what’s everyone getting hot under the collar about, anyway. She was just being honest and speaking her mind!
Had she said, “I think it’s great that in this country whites and blacks can marry, but my faith tells me it’s just wrong,” that’d be fine, right?
Had she said, “I think it’s great that in this country some country clubs will admit Jews but my religious beliefs tell me it’s wrong,” that’d be fine, right?
I fully agree with Ed Harges. She has the “right” to say anything she pleases and let the chips fall where they may. But some others on this blog seem to think that just because she gave a “civil answer” or an “honest answer” she deserves a pass and nobody has a right to condemn her. The hell we don’t!
Personally, I believe the question was as ill-advised as the answer. Personally, I believe she has the right to make her stand wherever she pleases. Personally, I believe I have the right to call her clueless.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, May 8, 2009 at 6:29 pm Link to this comment
Since the dawn of time, men have walked through fire, fought dinosaurs and basically agreed with anything a beautiful woman said for a chance to get her in bed.
I guess shes not ready for competition.
Report thisBy Leefeller, May 8, 2009 at 1:48 pm Link to this comment
Not sure posing half nude is worthy of moral discussion, they are using it against her, and to some it shows a high degree of hypocrisy , less so to others, and none to others yet. Her alleged bully pulpit is the problem, the simple concept people should not judge others as she did and still does, is the perfect distraction from real issues.
Report thisBy Thomas Mc, May 8, 2009 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment
They issue is she so self-righteously declares gays to be “immoral”, while she’s posing nude for everyone to see. So “Christian” of her.
Report thisBy Hulk2008, May 8, 2009 at 9:14 am Link to this comment
HELLO ..... it’s a darned BEAUTY contest. The whole contestant questioning thing is outrageously dumb.
Report thisMs. North Carolina was cuter. End of story - end of contest.
Maybe they could run these things like dog shows - make the babes trot around in a circle and then pose while a judge pokes and prods looking for various flaws. Do dogs at shows get implants? Do they have surgery to straighten or remove body parts? (I know some breeds have tails and ears cut in various bizarre and cruel ways to fit some bogus scheme of the ideal.)
Imagine what a Ms. USA contestant would sound like or what she’d say if a judge just stuck his thumb into some orifice to check teeth or whatever.
Bottom line is that most of these “contests” are geared to make money - not to choose the ideal national young lady. It’s a wonder there are any rules at all.
By the blatant surfer, May 7, 2009 at 7:30 pm Link to this comment
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This girl gives an honest answer and everyone is spitting hair balls.
Report thisIt’s supposed to be a pageant, why would you put an idiot like Hilton on there, or is it just to create controversy and attention?
Such an important issue.
She was asked a question, she gave her honest answer. I don’t care what she looks like, being honest and expressing her beliefs are what we should be standing up for, instead we quiver to the social engineering manipulators. Man what a screwed up country.
By PatrickHenry, May 7, 2009 at 4:44 pm Link to this comment
Looking as good as she does she can claim she is the devil incarnate and I would believe her.
I just wouldn’t pay any mind to what she says.
Report thisBy Leefeller, May 7, 2009 at 2:05 pm Link to this comment
Well, now they have some new half nude photos of Mis Califrona which surfaced, which means topless, though she should be able to rfute these photos, because they were taken before the new silicone implants, so technically they are really not her breasts. The answer is not the problem, it was the additional followup which seems to over did it with.
We should spend more time on this very important subject, for it is a major problem which concerns all of us and the very core of our existence. Topics like gay marriage, quasi legalese Sicilians and what Obama had with his hamburger need be known for the world to turn.
Get your priorities straight.
Report thisBy KDelphi, May 7, 2009 at 1:49 pm Link to this comment
By WTFDRE, May 7 at 4:31 pm #
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From what I’m reading all you people think she is the next Adolf Hitler.
A tad hysterical , dont you think?
Report thisBy WTFDRE, May 7, 2009 at 1:31 pm Link to this comment
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From what I’m reading all you people think she is the next Adolf Hitler. What I don’t get is why trashing her if she answered a question in a civil and polite way. Then you get Perez Hilton ranting about how UN civil she was or not “with the program”. Now we have some half nude photos of her putting more controversy on her. Sounds very fishy to me. Either some one pro gay or Hilton supporter or a anti-Carrie wants her out of Pageant because of her civil opinion. Its character assassination and censorship what they are doing to her. Something that I see a lot FOX NEWS and during the Bush Administration.
Report thisBy Leefeller, May 7, 2009 at 9:35 am Link to this comment
I heard Ms California and Joe the Plumber are going to run for president of Texas.
Report thisBy Allan Krueger, May 6, 2009 at 3:35 pm Link to this comment
She needs an exorcism! Call Sarah Palin at 1-666-666-2666, 24/7 !
Rhetorically: Who cares what this bimbo thinks, anyway?
Report thisBy mech'elsamberg, May 6, 2009 at 1:55 pm Link to this comment
1) With all due respect, women have just as big potty mouths as men and use sexist and homophoebic terms like “pr*ick”, “c*cksucker” and call other women those other words, etc but get a free pass since they are female.
Report this2) As for the pageant folks, why do they have to defend her? Didn’t she also break the rules with those indecent photos?
3) Why is it that she is “offering an opinion” yet when the others offer an opinion, its called “attacking”? Not everyone used bad language in criticizing her.
4) At least if she wants to pretend to be holier than thou in the morality department, you’d think those photos would not have been taken with her full consent and then defended with a very lame “I’m a model”.
5) Although her words were better chosen, they aren’t any less hateful towards gays. All she is a “nice homophoebe”.
6) Hence, she is getting what she deserves
7) In the long run, she gets all this free publicity which means she can up her fees for lectures, get a lot of notoriety which will aid her in whatever career she chooses, and I think someone already said that this will lead to her own reality show since Americans have no life and love this crap.
By NABNYC, May 6, 2009 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment
To: mech’elsamberg, May 6 at 4:13 pm #:
I didn’t say Hilton called her those words in the middle of the pageant. But he did call her those words. I’m not really promoting censorship. I’m just saying that she’s a beauty contestant, not a politician, and she answered honestly even if the rest of us think it’s an ignorant position.
If the pageant wants to criticize anyone, they should tell Hilton that his language is unacceptable. During or after the pageant, they will defend their contestants against such vile verbal attacks from anyone. Instead of turning on her, which is what they’ve done.
Hilton acted inappropriately in publicly calling her (on his well-distributed video system) a Dumb B**ch. I’m just tired of men feeling free to call women nasty names without any consequences. It’s a male-bonding privilege.
Women are routinely subjected to violence from men in our society. Maybe there’s a connection between men publicly, brazenly, openly, proudly calling women B**ch, S**t, C**t, and so on. I’m sick of it. They need to be told to reign it in. Hilton being gay is irrelevant to his verbal attack on this woman.
Report thisBy mech'elsamberg, May 6, 2009 at 1:13 pm Link to this comment
NABNYC, you have your facts wrong. Hilton called that on a post-pageant video, NOT during the pageant.
Report thisBy NABNYC, May 6, 2009 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment
I’ve been an attorney for over 25 years. This is how it works. One party to the contract decides they want to tear up the contract, stop doing business with the other party. They call in their attorneys and say “Here’s the contract. Find me a way to get out of it.” Then the attorneys go through the contract and find and cite obscure passages to justify rescinding the deal.
I fully support the right of gay people to marry. However, the winners of beauty pageants aren’t generally selected based upon their political analysis of social issues. They’re picked because they’re pretty and they’ve got good bodies.
This woman was asked her view of gay marriage. She stated her view. She did not use anti-gay language, did not incite violence, did not slur or demean homosexuals. She just said she did not believe in it. That’s the way she was raised (that’s what she said). Maybe the pageant people should have censored the question, but once they allowed it, her answer was perfectly legitimate. If anything, the pageant should censor Perez Hilton for calling this young woman a “Dumb B**ch.”
Second, she owns her body, she owns her breasts. I cannot imagine any court enforcing a contract which, for example, prohibits a woman from appearing in public in a bathing suit because the pageant owner is part of the Taliban. They should also refuse to enforce a contract which attempts to prevent a woman from using, photographing, selling, uncovering, or doing anything else she wants with any part of her body. It’s her body, remember?
Last, it seems to me that every member of Congress has spent the past 8 years scr**ing the public, engaged in despicable and depraved acts to sell out the country in exchange for bribes and kick-backs, yet they get to keep their jobs. Are these people serious that they’re going to fire some young woman because she showed a naked breast?
Maybe they should turn on TV and take a look at the Housewives in Orange County, each of whom shows at least 12 linear inches of naked saline-and-plastic-encapsulated breasts in their best church-going dresses slit down to the waist. With a 16” diamond-encrusted crucifix hanging right down the middle between the two—sides. And that’s on TV!! What is the difference? Tacky, but it’s still their body, their decision.
I guess this is what you should expect from the ancient cattle-call custom known as beauty contests.
Report thisBy mech'elsamberg, May 6, 2009 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment
Jeepers, Creepers. How much did the pageant pay for those phony peepers?
Report thisBy KDelphi, May 6, 2009 at 11:58 am Link to this comment
She’ll do fine, folks! This is ‘Merka! She’ll get her own reality show or something…
Report thisBy Chris, May 6, 2009 at 9:19 am Link to this comment
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To Ed Harges:
Ed, She was essentially interviewing for a PR job—and she gave a very bad answer from a PR perspective. She could have said “My faith tells me a marriage is between a man and a woman, but we live in a country of laws so we should leave it up those who make them.” or “Everyone deserves equal rights, what to call them I’ll leave to others.”
She made no concession to the other side—yes, she said it was great that you can choose and then went on to say that you shouldn’t be able to “in her country” (whatever hat means)—in PR you acknowledge the other side and you do it gracefully. She possessed no grace which is what they are ultimately looking for. Further evidenced by her Fundie tour of NOM/Liberty University etc., she did everything she could think of to antagonize people and keep herself in the headlines post-pageant—is that the action of someone who is an ambassador for her state.
She also knows that by doing that she’s made herslf radioactive and therefore unable to perform the duties of the Miss CA job she already had.
Report thisBy hippie4ever, May 6, 2009 at 8:01 am Link to this comment
As Carrie would point out (if she was smart) even Jesus wore panties. He is the only semi-nude male whose depiction is displayed openly, flagrantly, in church. Oddly, nobody complains about this disgusting display of nudity. Why?
Problem for Carrie is, everybody hates an overly-opinionated and politico bimbo, and in our Information Age our “youthful indiscretions” can be pulled up by pushing a few keys. She should have said something innoculous about same-sex marriage like, “I guess this is a question for the court” or “I don’t know any gay or lesbian couples so I’m not sure.” Instead she stepped in it and the damned stuff won’t wash off.
Report thisBy bogglesthemind, May 6, 2009 at 7:46 am Link to this comment
Miss California to Lose Her Tiara?
It couldn’t happen to a more vacuous nitwit.
Report thisBy Edensasp, May 6, 2009 at 7:45 am Link to this comment
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At least Anita Bryant could sing….. lol
Where is she now? Washed up, divorced, and bankrupted.
Sounds like Carrie wants to be the next Anita Bryant… GO FOR IT CARRIE!!
“Fruit Pie anyone?”
Report thisBy Louise, May 6, 2009 at 7:40 am Link to this comment
The only mistake Miss California made was in choosing to run for “Miss Universe” instead of “Miss America.”
Had she entered the Miss America pageant, she would have been required to study some, since winning Miss America means Scholarships are the big prize. And furthering ones education is the big goal, and being able to demonstrate an ability to think standing on your feet is an absolute requirement.
Miss Universe, on the other hand is a commercially promoted, profit generating bit of bling, requiring perfect boobs, good teeth and little else.
The hooplah over her brain is ridiculous since the most important requirement is boobs and the brain is not even mentioned.
Thanks to the pageant promoters, always eager to use dumb broads and horney men to make a buck, she has new boobs. And at the end of the day, whether she keeps her “title” or not, I suspect they’ll let her keep her boobs.
So it’s not a total loss.
However, I agree with Ed Harges, who observed, “She was put in a position by the pageant of having to answer a direct question concerning her political views. The pageant cannot require a contestant to answer questions on political issues, and at the same time forbid the contestant to take certain positions on those same issues. This is what America’s civil liberties are all about. It’s absolutely outrageous that they are doing this to her.”
To which I’ll add, “It’s absolutely outrageous that the pageant committee is suddenly pretending to give a damn whether or not their contestants have an oppinion ... on anything!”
Report thisBy mech'elsamberg, May 6, 2009 at 7:19 am Link to this comment
Miss Prejean is as phony as her boobs.
Report thisBy Jim Yell, May 6, 2009 at 5:43 am Link to this comment
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I say YAWN!
Report thisBy Big B, May 6, 2009 at 4:23 am Link to this comment
KDelphi,
perhaps you are right and Miss California is a self-loathing, closeted homosexual. And just maybe she is making self help videos of a sexual nature featuring Miss South Carolina. (well, at least that’s how it’s going on in my mind)
Report thisBy Ragnar B. Johannessen, May 6, 2009 at 4:13 am Link to this comment
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Apart from the nude photos, which became known later, all Carrie Prejean did was to honestly speak her mind, answering a question on gay marriage from a blogger. Then hell was raised because this wasn’t a politically correct answer. She also said:
“I did not want to offend anybody, but I think with that question specifically, it’s not about being politically correct, for me it was being biblically correct.”
Some of the comments on this page are pretty mean, and obviously these commentators don’t appreciate honesty very much. They also seem to respond with exactly the same venom & narrow-mindedness as the right-wingers, just that in this case their spite is being activated by different opinions. That’s all the difference there is.
There will not, there cannot be, a better world for anyone until we learn to respond differently to each other. As long as the political left & right go for the jugular, everything will continue as before, and there will not be a free and open society for anyone. Thank you.
Report thisBy purplewolf, May 6, 2009 at 2:53 am Link to this comment
Carrie, cover up your emaciated collarbone. You look like you are starved and living in a 3rd world country where food is scarce. Not everyone thinks that bones sticking out with skin stretched to show the hollowed out effect like yours, is a healthy specimen in which to inspire young girls to look up to.
While I watched the recaps of your 15 minutes of fame, you talked as if “your country” was a separate entity not connected to the rest of America, but maybe to you California is a separate country. Also on the news it was reported that your sister was gay. I don’t know if she is, however, the news I follow does investigate and report accurate facts and when in error,rarely, corrects it on the next show, unlike some other news networks.
Why do you feel you have the right to deny total strangers the right to be with the person they want, while you, if you are heterosexual, can have that right. America-the religious, political, right-to-lifers, etc. and otherwise nosy people out there, need to leave others alone when it comes to the private relationships of which they are not engaged, married, living together with or in some other way legally bound to and mind their own relationships. How would these anti-gay marriage protesters feel if the tables were turned and heterosexuals were denied the right to marry?
And another thing, Carrie, since you have chosen to be in these pageants, before you speak to a live audience again, please take some speech classes. When you answered, your lack of preparedness came through full force. Obviously public speaking, without the aid of a teleprompter or cue cards is a weak point for you.
And why are you making this topic a personal vendetta to go after gay marriage. Why the hatred to attack those whose lives you know nothing about, yet feel it is your right to control. Is it because you cannot control the things happening in your life that you feel this need to go out and try to force the government to create laws to treat others as inferiors to make you feel good about yourself? What would Jesus think of your prejudice against these people in opposite marriage.
Go back and study history. People, before all the interference from the churches, who entered into relationships were not always one man and one woman, unless you are Mormon, selective groups of, who have multiple wives for each man. Often it was two men or two women who were considered in a marriage and it was done for survival purposed most of the time and for companionship, and not the sexual/procreation marriages of today’s petty, paranoid heterosexuals, who falsely think that somehow if gays are allowed to marry, it will harm their “strait” marriage. Just how exactly will this ruin your relationship with your husband-if and when you get one and your relationship is secure, if a gay married couple moved in your neighborhood, unless your spouse swings both ways? You people who want to deny gay marriage should be more worried about all those other heterosexual married people out there, as they are the real threats to your marriage and not some gay couple.
Where is your acceptance of all people, isn’t that what you should have learned from your Christian upbringing?
Report thisBy mech'elsamberg, May 5, 2009 at 7:07 pm Link to this comment
Isn’t this special? An exhibitionist wants to preach morality to others?
Report thisBy KDelphi, May 5, 2009 at 6:30 pm Link to this comment
So many of them turn out to be like this, you have to wonder , they muste jut be exhibitionists..she has a right to say as she pleases. They have a right to negate her contract.
I guess I dont really care one way or the other.
But, just think, how many of these right-wing fanatics end up having something that they rail against in their past (or present)? That may be why they rail against things…
maybe she is gay and wont admit it to herself..
Report thisBy Ed Harges, May 5, 2009 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment
I am so pro-gay-marriage, you can’t imagine. I have fulminated on this site against this woman, called her names just getting all worked up. In fact, I pretty much hate her.
HOWEVER.
The first amendment guarantee of free speech is something pretty close to sacred for me. The first amendment necessarily protects political speech above all. She was put in a position by the pageant of having to answer a direct question concerning her political views. The pageant cannot require a contestant to answer questions on political issues, and at the same time forbid the contestant to take certain positions on those same issues. This is what America’s civil liberties are all about. It’s absolutely outrageous that they are doing this to her.
And remember, I don’t like her. I really don’t. But if our courts hold that the pageant organization can compel participants to answer political questions on national TV, and then punish them economically for giving the “wrong” answers, then it will be a grave blow to civil liberties in America.
Report thisBy melpol, May 5, 2009 at 5:09 pm Link to this comment
Miss California has shown her ugly side by announcing she is against gay marriage. She has put her self on the side of right wing religious fanatics. But when she needs a buck her religious beliefs are thrown overboard. She posed semi-nude for a porno mag. Behold the hypocrite.
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