What hasn’t been reported in the American mass media is that when Obama was in Chezcho in mid-April, he stated publically that the US was going ahead with the first strike missile base against Russia, with the absurd pretense that this was a defense against Iran.  Continuing Bush’s extremely dangerous policies against the will of the Chezch and Polish people.  In the interests of Israel and against US interests.

RE: The British paper Guardian today has an article about the US torture camp near the US military base in Poland where it is Bush-Obama policy to render political prisionrs. 

This has been in the news in Europe since 2005. Made it to the NY Times in 2006. Former Communist Era prisons (closed over 15 years, since the regime change) were refurbished to serve in the Global Torture Gulag.

There are carrots and sticks. TheKaczynski brothers (measuring in at about 5 feet each) love the feeling of big pointy missiles; but one’s gone and the other’s swarmed by scandals. Tusk is more sensible and secure. Many in Poland hope he’ll stand up to the thugs in Brussels and Washington - invalidate the Rumsfeld vision of the New Europe - presumably where the proportion of imprisoned population matches that of the US - largest in the industrialized world…you know, land of the free…yada, yada

By blogdog, April 29 at 1:59 am

My, my, you sure did grow up(I think) loving your disney and that is where you must spend a lot of your free time. Disney IS part of the msm problem which apparently you’re a classic example of the effect of that part of MSM.
Hint: this is all this bantering back and forth will be about as you have hopelessly secured your position by protecting disney. Why don’t you go take a trip into fantasyland?

The US power system IS insane, Louise, or elements of it, and infects the population with the hysteria for their own purposes. It is suffering from that ‘megalomania’ that the British historian Eric Hobsbaum says routinely affects imperialism.

The British paper Guardian today has an article about the US torture camp near the US military base in Poland where it is Bush-Obama policy to render political prisionrs.  An appelent court just overrled the Bush-Obama policy of preventing prisoners from appealing their incarceration, although it is doubtful that Obama will obey the law, in the same way Bush didn’t.  But US law is reluctant to apply to foreign policy.

But the point is that Zimerman, like the other Poles, probably knew of this prison, along with the threatened missile base, and was disgusted by it.  As even Obama cheerleaders like yourself are.  But the American audience didn’t know it, and so elements of them had their consciousness ‘disappeared’ to induce them to walk out.  But they were systematically deceived and deluded by Bush, just as they are currently being deluded and deceived by Obama.

About 30 or 40 people in the audience walked out, some shouting obscenities.  “Yes,” he answered, “some people when they hear the word military start marching.”

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Great line, but off the mark. People don’t jump up and march out because they hear the word military. They jump up and march out because they are programmed to respond to a challenge to their blind obedience!

The US isn’t insane ... people are insane. And when you (you being we the people, through our elected officials) allow a policy based on histaria to become the norm, the insane come crawling out of their cubby holes. Job security for the insecure. Stability for the unstable.

We see them every day. In grocery stores, in airports behind the security scanners, and behind the cameras carefully placed where we cant see them. We see crime commited in front of those cameras. We see the action captured and often as not, the cameras are so cheap the picture is worthless. Is it sane to place the camera to catch the crook, knowing full well the need to buy the cheapest renders the camera useless? In other words, we see insanity run amuck.

A sense of panic that drives a need that has a flawed outcome because the histerical can see a need for “protect” but cant understand protect by search and destroy is only destroy. There commitment to protect stops at their own fanny. Their collective histeria driven by a view so narrow that even they cant understand exactly what “it”, or their place in “it” is all about.

The incident of the fly-over in Manhatten the other day clearly defines the kind of insanity that fills the little gaps in the larger hole called National Security. I’m not talking about the folks in Manhatten who reacted in a very honest, sane and understandable fashion. I’m talking about the idiot, or idiots who, because of some off-base notion of “threat” decided not to give the folks in Manhatten a heads-up! That is exactly the kind of insanity I’m talking about! So many imagined threats. So few sane people to “practice” on how to deal with them. But then if the threat is percieved based on info that’s imagined, guided by fear that’s driven by histeria and insanity, how can anything be clearly defined and dealt with?

The whole point being ... we have unqualified, poorly trained, often stupid and generally frieghtened people with severe emotional problems and absolutely no practical experience in human relations, daily making decisions about fear, problems and human relations.

The wonder is that Zimerman came back to America at all! The wonder is that anyone chooses to enter our airports and fly. The wonder is that nobody seems to have realised yet, it’s not fear of terrorism that keeps people from flying, it’s fear of the insane and idiotic staffers that staff the security that keeps us from flying!

INCREDIBLE: “You sure are going out of your way to protect a corporation that is a big part of those that have more than their fair share of say so in the running of this country”

I am not protecting anybody! I am pointing out that by slamming into this discussion, totally ignorant of how business is done in the fine and performing arts, you sound like an idiot. The Disney Corp. had nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with this performance.

Not even Krystian Zimerman has a big enough name as an “artist” for a corpse the size of Disney to give a damn about anything he says, anywhere. If one of the “celebrities” on the Disney payroll spoke out like this, yeah, then they might be moved to put on some pressure.

Get a clue! In this (the most philistine nation of all time) almost nobody, needs, cares or even thinks about what “artists” do. This nation, populated overwhelmingly with “boob-tubed” consumers, only cares about “celebrities!”

By blogdog, April 28 at 7:52 pm
““The Disney Corp. did not produce this performance - Disney’s name is only on the hall because of the estate’s $50-mil contribution to its construction. A local presenter of classical musical performances produced this show.”“
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You sure are going out of your way to protect a corporation that is a big part of those that have more than their fair share of say so in the running of this country.
I don’t believe I said disney produced it, just said hopefully the guy got paid and that disney with its patriotic place in diverting attention from real issues would have a say so in him being paid.  I would say that he was paid before he stepped on stage but you want to bet if disney would or could have a say so about what happens to any performer? Especially when they contribute so much to build a facility. Remember that disney is part of one of the conservative owned and controlled MSM.

William Wexler- an interesting anticdote.  Did you know that it is now legal to take cig lighters abroad US planes, courtesy of the tobacco industry, but illegal to take shampoo?  To fend off the danger no doubt that someone will threaten to violently wash somebody’s hair.

In Italy they seized my wife’s jam because… because…well, I don’t remember the reason, and fortunately the guard didn’t understand English when I explained why he shouldn’t.

RE: “I just hope disney didn’t renege on paying him for his performance. It is something I would not be surprised of the great disney corporation doing.”

General ignorance about the fine and performing arts is, in this - the most philistine nation of all time - patently embarrasing.

The Disney Corp. did not produce this performance - Disney’s name is only on the hall because of the estate’s $50-mil contribution to its construction. A local presenter of classical musical performances produced this show.

Of course the presenter paid.

The irony in this is that Zimerman was known in Poland for making similar comments from the stage about the regime during the Martial Law era, when I would have been seen as a hero by the very hostile gang that’s now slamming him relentlessly over at the LA Times Comments section.

I just hope disney didn’t renege on paying him for his performance. It is something I would not be surprised of the great disney corporation doing.

wow!!

Sounds to me that the piano that smelled odd had strings attached to it!

This is the kind of moral autonomy and courage the world is waiting on.

When we quit listening to the pundits and pimps manufactured by Washington, and start paying heed to the voice of Humanity, our nation may at last see “real” change.

As a pianist and former professional musician, if anyone representing a government destroyed any of my equipment I’d never play there again.  I never traveled with my Mason & Hamlin grand. Anyone who orders the destruction of a Mason & Hamlin or Steinway because of a smell is an ignorant, paranoid bastard who should be flipping burgers rather than working to keep the world safe from democracy. 

Here’s a short anecdote as a point of reference.  During the Cold War my band played in Europe for 3 months.  The guitarist and I flew to Switzerland to pick up our gear and a truck, then drove to Frankfurt to meet up with the rest of the band.  We ended up taking a “shortcut” into Germany due to a hitchhiker we picked up.

I was very diligent about making sure our equipment was properly checked in to the country due to having done some gigs in Canada years back.  (US will try to charge you duty on your equipment when you come back in unless you have paperwork on it).  Our sponsors said it was no big deal but I wanted to be sure.  So I’m driving along in this small town and the next thing I know I’m reading German signs IN GERMANY and we have just driven past the guard shack.  I pulled over, walked back to the shack, and encountered a non-English speaking guard and was trying to communicate with him that we had a truckload of stage gear that I wanted to check in somehow.  Finally he came over and looked at it, and as we paged through the dictionary trying to figure out what the other guy was saying, finally he understood what I was trying to do and cheerfully said “OK” and waved us on. 

No inventory confirmation, no pawing through our luggage, no examining every amplifier and cable, no nothing… just a glance into the back of the truck and wave the American hippies through from Switzerland to Germany, the country where terrorist cells were active and there was a line of nuclear-equipped airbases to protect the country from the Russians.  He never even looked at our passports.

We have bad karma here, really bad.  That’s why they hate us, it’s not because we’re free.

Bravo to Krystian Zimerman.  I would have stood if I were there and cheered if I knew the back story on it.  I guess I’ll just have to settle on buying all of his recordings.

-Wexler

They destroyed the piano of one of the world’s greatest pianists because the glue smelled funny?  And people think I exaggerate when I say that the US is politically insane.

The US is threatening to put a first strike missile base in Poland, causing Russia to target Poland with nuclear weapons.  Since the US is obviously politically insane, killing hundreds of thousands of non-US people so far, Zimerman has a point that the American people have not yet realized.

The Geyry concert holl is astonishing.  We were down there when the workers putting on the alumininam roof were jiggling the jigsaw-like pieces to try to get them to fit.  the whole building is of metal, like the art museam in Spain. It is not large but reports at the end claimed that it finally cost nearly a billion dollars to construct.  And pisses off the artists that play in them.

In 1987, the late Lillian Disney made an initial gift of $50 million to build a world-class performance venue as a gift to the people of Los Angeles and a tribute to Walt Disney’s devotion to the arts…the only reason the Disney name is on that hall.

The people of LA would be fools to turn down this gift. As for artists, in the fine and performing arts are many, using their voices and craft to illuminate the horror of our epoch - the creators of this production would, as well, be fools to turn down a booking at Disney Hall: http://www.thefall01.info

The punch in Zimmerman’s gesture lies in the fact that the US Government, by comparison to other nations, supports very few fine and performing arts on world tours. The Polish Government probably funded Zimmerman’s travel to the US, maybe even his travel within the US - it’s called cultural ambassadorship. The US seems to think the film industry does that for this nation, and so it does, but it’s message is generally pretty vulgar.

Zimmerman’s now telling US presenters, “Tap your dwindling endowments to pay more for the travel and per diem of US artists,” I’m withdrawing as a cultural ambassador to the Imperial US.

It’s a start, but I wish this guy was more atuned to disney’s role in subverting this country and would boycott them wherever disney reared its ugly head.