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Posted on Feb 28, 2009
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Strike the set: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants an apology from Hollywood.

A special delegation from Hollywood visited Iran this weekend, featuring envoys Annette Bening and Sid Ganis, president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Said delegation was there to take part in a “cultural exchange,” according to The Wrap, but Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wasn’t rolling out the red carpet.

The Wrap:

But the trip took a tense turn as the Iranian News Agency reported that the art adviser to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedenejad said that Hollywood must apologize for “insults and slanders” about Iranians in films.

“(Iranian) cinema officials will only have the right to have official sessions with ... Hollywood movie makers when they apologize to the Iranians for their 30 years of insults and slanders,” Javad Shamaghdari said.

He added: “The Iranian people and our revolution has been repeatedly unjustly attacked by Hollywood,” he said, citing ‘300’ and recent Oscar nominated movie ‘The Wrestler’ as among offending films.

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By smhb, March 4, 2009 at 7:01 pm Link to this comment
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Concernediranian,

Since you clearly demonstrated your intellectual impotence I would like to clarify a thing or two.

The Iranian revolution has managed to resolve a lot of issues.

1- At the time of the revolution there were 36 mil people in Iran and the univ capacity was around 100,000 with another 300,000 left out. There were over 50,000 students abroad.

2- Today with a population of 70 mil Iran has a student capacity of 3.7 mil and growing. Major advanced studies have been created and established.

3- Illitracy rate was 70% before the revolution and now stands below 10%.

4- Infant mortality has dropped.

5- Women are flooding the univ and higher education and the work force.

6- There has been a massive investment in infrastructure: roads, bridges, hospitals, clinics, high schools, primary schools, colleges, universities, power plants, water, electricity, ports and etc….

7- Iran has actually succeeded as a socialist state under the most difficult of circumstances. Revolution, assassinations, bombings, massive destabilization campaign, external war, economic sanctions, political pressure and intimidation and etc…. They have managed to create a highly educated, well informed society with a huge civil society thats trying to deal with enormously challenging issues under the most difficult circumstances.

However like most states (including our own) under the actual threat of invasion, bombing, ad terrorism not the imagined threats fabricated by our zionist elite, they also become security conscious and definitely over react.

8- They have managed to create an industrial base, advanced research into all fields of science and technology from nano-technology to micr-biology to space sciences. This has resulted in creating a state that has reached a level of military / technical independence in 20 years that is unheard of.

9- They are also the sole power that efectively stands up to the empire and has managed to defeat the empire in many instances by paying a heavy price and not retreating.

10- Domestic Iranian politics is the business of Iranian people and I am certain the people of Iran will resolve issues that most societies face and is not peculiar to Iran, such as: poverty, drugs, discrimination, civil liberties, the role of religion, and etc… I am certain in that domestic debate people like you are lost and will not find a hearing ear as you really dont have anything of substance to offer to your country of origin.

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By Virginia777, March 4, 2009 at 10:28 am Link to this comment

I would like to add,

its not all Jews who participate in the right-wing Zionist movement, not even close.

The Zionists are just old-fashioned right-wingers, who amp up the Fear factor (because they are so afraid).

We see PLENTY of this in our own country, you know the ones, the ones who built ten-billion nuclear bombs we don’t need (and can’t store).

Thats irrational fear for you!

Its just the dumb blindness and fear, of right-wingers everywhere,

that would want to spark a war with Iran.

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By Virginia777, March 4, 2009 at 9:04 am Link to this comment

You got it right, Robert, you’ve got some real Zionist spammers here,

they want a war with Iran, they like war, especially when its near the borders of Israel, the more wars the better

that is why they have run a many-year negative propaganda campaign against Iran

which includes lots of Trolls running around, doing their dirty work

but what I always say about Trolls, first of all, they almost always drown themselves with their own words and secondly, they are trying to shut you up,

so speak louder!

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By Sepharad, March 4, 2009 at 12:23 am Link to this comment
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Concerned Iranian, you sound a little like an Iranian friend of mind. He was one of the students who were part of the ‘79 revolution then fled to the U.S. when it didn’t go in the direction they expected. He’s an atheist who observes the Zoroastrian Solstice and like me enjoyed watching Edward Said and Daniel Barenboin on stage in Berkeley, CA calling for friendship between Israelis and Palestinian Arabs, condemning violence etc. He is frequently critical of Israel but also of Hezbollah/Hamas, we were both opposed to invading Iraq and demonstrated together. But he is very upset with the mullahs and Ahmadinejad, almost as much as he is with Bush/Cheney etc. In other words, he’s a decent human being who recognizes bad guys when he sees them, whether American or Iranian or British or terrorists. His oldest son just married a Jewish woman. Neither he nor I have seen “300” and I haven’t seen “Not Without My Daughter” (but he and his wife did some time ago, when it came out, and both said it was a fair representation of the society under its theocracy at that time).

Robert, did you ever see the movie version (with Diane Keaton) of John LeCarre’s novel “The Little Drummer Girl?” It portrayed the Israel-Arab conflict with somewhat sympathetic and realistic portrayals of both sides. I go to the Arab Film Festival every year in SF, and see a lot of films by Arabs portraying the endless sometimes self-imposed suffering of the Palestinians (“self-imposed” does not make it any less real suffering) as well as other more even-handed ones that emphasize the problems on both sides.  There are a number of Israeli films that are anti-military/Mossad in nature and in favor of understanding and fairness—“Walk on Water” is particularly good, and not as blatant as some of the more treacly efforts. Plenty of anti-religious Israeli movies, and one describing how a few Orthodox guys get through their military time. Both Israelis and Arabs are often more subtle in their films than you might like.

nefesh, as one who hopes the “military option” will never be anywhere near the table let alone on it, I believe the Iranian people themselves—at least that large portion not deluded by religious extremism—will quietly pressure the mullahs into some rational arrangement as long as the U.S. switches back into a rational frame of mind and begins talking with Iran. Nuclear power is vital if we’re going to make any progress slowing global warming, and the West has to understand that. I’m not sure who Iran feels it needs to defend itself against with nuclear weaponry—Israel would be crazy to attack Iran, and Iran knows it; suspect Iran is more worried by Sunnis than it is by Jews, despite all Mr. A.‘s rhetoric and the support of Hamas and Hezbollah—but there’s no reason some sort of defense system could not be worked out.

Anyway, the Iranian film community seemed happier about the Hollywood delegation’s visit than the Iranian government. That’s no surprise as Iran’s current government is very big on censorship of its artists, dissidents, etc.

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By Ron Ranft, March 3, 2009 at 8:32 pm Link to this comment
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I don’t think that anyone should be apologizing to anyone over this and to demand an apology before you talk is to say that you really would prefer to be right rather than discuss a way to move forward. Hollywood has a long history of portraying Arabs as evil, lazy, etc. I wonder, does the fact that Hollywood is pretty much run by and for Jews have anything to do with it. I have know Iranian People and some of them have been as nice as anyone I’ve ever known and someof them as bad as anyone I’ve ever known. Iranians are as far removed from their government as Americans are from theirs. The last 8 years should have taught us at least that much. Ahmedinejad is Bush’s mirror image and the things he does have as much rhyme and reason as did Bush.

As I said before, I don’t think that an apology is worth anything but it is true that the US film and TV industry has not portrayed not only Iranians and Arabs, but also lots of other ethnicities as being our enemies or in ways that they are not. But Americans seem unable to admit it when they are wrong. I don’t care what other countries do or don’t do, I care about my country because we are the ones that keep saying we are the world’s beacon!

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By KPinSEA, March 3, 2009 at 5:08 pm Link to this comment

Yet again, “Manny” shows that he’d make a fine neocon if he lived in America .... when all else fails, blame the media for your problems.

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By HF101, March 3, 2009 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment
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Serves those deluded left coast Ass****‘s right, they should have been held accountable, even as messengers and been kicked into a giant pit for daring to insult the god-king Xerxes er, I mean Ahmedenejad

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By Virginia777, March 3, 2009 at 11:24 am Link to this comment

I don’t blame the Iranians at all, they have been subject to a massive negative propaganda campaign, much of it perpetrated by so-called “human rights” groups. The New York Times also stands out.

So they are supposed NOT to notice??

please.

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By AConcernedIranian, March 2, 2009 at 11:55 pm Link to this comment
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@ Marshall & robert etc:

I dont mind the negativity portrayed by movies like 300 so much. It’s a movie anyway and I hope people do treat it as such. They dont hurt us as much as our current leaders do. Ahmadinejad, Khamenei etc have fucked up Iran’s image 10 times over.

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By AT, March 2, 2009 at 10:23 pm Link to this comment
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I would like to sit down and have a cup of tea with President AHMADINEJAD and ask him two questions: the first one on the separation of church and state and the second question on his personal view of Homosexuality.

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By Marshall, March 2, 2009 at 10:06 pm Link to this comment

By AConcernedIranian, March 1 at 5:19 am #

“As an Iranian, I feel ashamed to have idiots running our country…”

and as an american, i feel ashamed to have idiots in hollywood who attempt to grovel to the idiots running iran.

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By Paolo, March 2, 2009 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment
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The Iranian film industry has some valid points. In the movie “300”, the Iranians are portrayed like the “orcs” in Lord of the Rings. If the tables were turned, would not Americans be just a little perturbed, too?

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By WriterOnTheStorm, March 2, 2009 at 3:42 pm Link to this comment

Hollywood needs its bogeymen just as much as Washington D.C..

Where would our heroes be without an army of fanatics to defeat? Hollywood writers got spoiled by the cold war. In those halcyon days all you had to do was connect your antagonist to the red menace, and you were good to go. When the wall fell, there was a dearth of international bad boys, and the swarthy Islamic terrorist figure provided a serviceable stand-in.

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By robert, March 2, 2009 at 6:05 am Link to this comment
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I see Truthdig is in the sights of a Zionist spammers campaign - AConcernedIraniannefeshsharonsj, make up your mind what you want to call yourself - this split personality thing isn’t working. Now about the Palestinian population - damn frustrating isn’t it, doesn’t matter how many you kill, make homeless, destroy their livelihoods, steal their land etc. They just keep breeding! We await your final solution, what next for these magnificently enduring people, will you sterilize them? Nazis - Zionists, what’s the difference?

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By robert, March 1, 2009 at 9:35 pm Link to this comment
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Hey, they are a democratic theocracy, and that is their system and if they want it, it’s their choice. They had a western-style democracy until Americans destroyed it in 1953. Could you seriously be suggesting the American corporatocracy as a model to follow? Surely not. Or would apartheid Israel be your preferred model?

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By sharonsj, March 1, 2009 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment
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What Jewish genocide of Palestine?  After 60 years of conflict, the Palestinian population continues to get bigger and bigger.  Aren’t they something like three or four times the number they started with?

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By dsmith, March 1, 2009 at 2:22 pm Link to this comment
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Not only Hollywood but our nightly news cast and programs such as 60 Minutes, who acts as an agent for Israel spewing anti-arab and persian bias on a weekly basis. Incidentially..THe Wrestler was written by a Jewish writer…if that tells you anything.

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By nefesh, March 1, 2009 at 8:59 am Link to this comment

hi ConcernedIranian -

I read your post and thought of Marjan Satrapi’s “Persepolis”. Her harshest criticism of the Islamist regime is that they have become another iteration of the police state that the ‘79 revolution purportedly meant to abolish. They just switched from a dynastic monarch to Islamist theocratic tyrants.

I hope the people of Iran can kick their asses out of power, and soon.

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By robert, March 1, 2009 at 5:50 am Link to this comment
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@ AConcerned"Iranian”: Any patriotic Iranian would have a problem with Hollywood’s demonization of Iranian, Arab, Muslim and anything else that resists Jewish Israeli domination of the middle-east. You are no more a concerned Iranian than I am Pope: AConcernedZionist would be closer to the truth. What I want to know is when is Spielberg and those that own Hollywood going to make a film about the genocide by Jews of Palestine? We get it by now that Jews have been victims, when is the story of the victims of Jews going to be made? Do we have to wait until Palestine is wiped off the map entirely?

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By AConcernedIranian, March 1, 2009 at 1:19 am Link to this comment
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As an Iranian, I feel ashamed to have idiots running our country and representing us. What once was the rich culture of the persian civilisation has been hijacked by a bunch of retarted ideologues.

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By politicky, February 28, 2009 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment

I find this amusing.

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