this is in response to Robert Giacobbe, I don’t know how it ended up here. Peace

I guess you didn’t look too hard. How about looking for the ordinances that DIDN’T make it illegal to beat your wife or to lynch your local residents (depending on the hue of their skin)and then you can speak of freedom. And sorry to tell you, but breaking local decency laws here in America also got people castrated and hung.

Touche` CY. Let’s place the blame where it belongs.

I am impressed once again by the TruthDig editorial reich’s choice of another event of urgent attention .

This story is much more important than the THOUSANDS of consumers defrauded at the hands of Wachovia Bank .
This story is much more important than the weekly increases in the cost of living for the American Middle and lower classes .

This story is much more important than the high crime rate among American Soldiers returning from Iraq and Afganistan , along with the alrming number of homeless Veterans and the huge rate of DIVORCES among families with one or both spouses serving in the military today .

Post-Katrina New Orleans ; ditto
Rising jobless numbers ; ditto
Debt to China ; ditto
Health Care crisis ; ditto
Epidemic of Type 2 Diabetes ; ditto
Environmental Meltdown ; ditto
Social Security ; ditto
It seems that the only obscenity involved here is the lack of BALLS by Scheer and Co. to take on any real issues or any big players involved .

Who decides which books, music cd’s, movies, ad’s etc, are obscene?

Every generation hears complaints from previous generations on their clothing styles.

Remember Elvis? Then remember McCarthyism..

The people spending all their time running around looking for ad’s and such to complain about could better spend time with their children; Go teach your children the values you want them to have, not sitting them in front of a t.v., computer, or dropping them off at a mall.

Try something new, like ;spending quality time with your kids every night.’ You will be at home, you won’t see objectionable ad’s, your kids won’t see them, and you might benifit from sitting around the table with a home cooked meal.

Guess that’s to easy. Better to threaten lives “such as the Dixie Chicks, for their opinion of Bush and this war,” Taking women’s jobs away from them, such as three bridge players whom spoke out against Bush.”

If you can’t see that you are taking away our freedom by calling the police and threatening the lives of those who disagree with you, this country is in worse shape than we know.

If you don’t like a product’s ad, don’t buy it. If enough people agree with you the product will not have a market and therefore go away.

The majority of the young people in this country want to be “gamers”,“gangsta’s”,baseball,basketball,football or rap stars….There are not many who want to get an education and the necessary training/discipline in order to become Doctors or Scientists….That is to much WORK for AMERICAN kids….Be a singer-lose your kids-go to rehab-show your “COOTCHIE” on T.V. news-That is what is important to most of our youth….And the PARENTS ARE NO LONGER IN GHARGE….Your teenager will SUE YOU and WIN if you say ANYTHING.Those are the LAWS on the books.Isn’t anyone else ASHAMED of what AMERICA now stands for in the eyes of the world?????

#By Aegrus, February 4: “I think if there were more nudity in America, we’d all stop being so ridiculously sexist and homophobic. Of course, the bigoted feminists would hate that as much as, if not more than, the social conservative establishment…”

That’s the one thing I agree with you about, Aegrus. But then, women always wanted to have control over men anyway, uhh…....

#By Mike Frazier, February 4: “Robert… nudity itself is not intrinsically sexual. Courts have held this again and again. It doesn’t stop police from arresting people - in violation of the law and their rights - but it’s true nonetheless…....

If you create a job that gives the people who hold it power over the day-to-day lives of other people, who do you think is going to apply? People who love doing exactly that. Bullies will always be overrepresented in police forces; the nature of the job attracts them…”

Please understand that RG is “sensitive” like that, Mike Frazier. I guess he must be a sensitive new age guy, eh? Maybe even a policeman, uhh!?!? This isn’t conspiracy….

#By Joy F, February 4: “So, I guess it would be OK with you then, if your town banned women from displaying a very modest amount of cleavage? And the FBI “should be in the business” of telling me telling how many shirt buttons I can leave open…”

There is this strange problem with “clevage”, Joy F.. Maybe it is that women have it but men don’t? But the most obscene thing is really a chest of hair like a carpet - with more of the same on the back, uhh.

Then there are buttocks. They are a kind of “cleavage” too. Men might have them more pronounced than women - and that frightens them more than anything. Being looked at - and maybe even by other males, ha ha. So childish…..

Oy vey!

You have got to be kidding.
So America is the “land of the free”?
What a crock of shit.

As for community “standards”, they are the same arguments that supported slavery, wife beating, etc.

so called “community standards” are usually written and enforced by ignorant thugs,the whole purpose to enforce some kind of stupid KKKristian morality. do you have a dick"bob”, have you ever seen a dick other than your own? have you ever seen a pussy that wasn’t attached to your wife? have you ever gone to the beach? i go to the beach just to look at the hot bodies,male and female. get a life asshole. there is a billboard for beer near my house, it shows more flesh than those boys are showing.

I’ve got to say that advertising from mortgage refinancing lenders are far more offensive than this ad, which is, by the way, just one of many. People who whine and complain about sex and violence, but stand still and emotionless over big business’s stranglehold on their actual lifestyle should be ashamed.

I’m not a hippie by any means, but anyone can see a time-tested societal fascination with beauty and the female form. It’s perfectly normal and healthy to admire youth, although I usually prefer a bit of salt. That’s a personal issue, though!

I think if there were more nudity in America, we’d all stop being so ridiculously sexist and homophobic. Of course, the bigoted feminists would hate that as much as, if not more than, the social conservative establishment.

I don’t know about ” a red neck enclave” but this is nothing new for Va. Beach. I’ve previously lived there, and I plan on returning, and I can tell you that there is more of a military presence there than anything else. However, you have to remember that Va. Beach is where Pat Robertson’s television ministry is based and it carries a lot of supposed moral authority there. Va. Beach also has strict regulations regarding beach attire, activities on the beach, congregations on the boardwalk, and driving along the beachfront area.

virginia beach looks like just another bible thumping red neck enclave to be avoided by anyone with a brain,or loose pants.

Just more of the fascist agenda as it moves along…

BTW, I didn’t see any breasts. Not that much of a butt either.

Who CARES?!

Now, if this was a photo of Schwartzie the Terminator, it WOULD be obscene and grotesque. Otherwise, I truly don’t get what the big (or even small) deal is, aside from what I’ve already said..the fascist agenda moving right along, and folks being willing to put up with it.

Meantime, why isn’t it obscene to be spending money on ANYTHING from A & F?

Oh..that’s right..I think Levi Strauss has been outsourced…

Uhh, God, talk about sick moralizing!

(a) Every woman has breasts (unless they have been chopped off by a surgeon). In a culture which so admires them, why should anyone see them as “obscene”?  The natural female function is to feed their babies with milk from their breasts - why should this be seen as “obscene”?

(b) What buttocks? I didn’t see any buttocks! And, if so, so what? Aren’t they simply a part of the human anatomy at the rear where the legs join the trunk? What is obscene are the unwashed sleazy people who walk around with their underwear hanging out and their pants falling of as a matter of course.

Send them off to war, eh!?!? Let them have a few holes shot through them for the greater glory of their nation. Protecting your oil corporations’ interests by having your legs and your balls blown off or your guts hanging on the end of someone’s bayonet! Now, that ISN’T obscene….. support our fuckin’ troops in murdering slopes, gooks and hajis and ragheads!!!