Patrick Henry, interesting that both Norm Finkelstein and Ilan Pappe were placed on a list of supposed “traitors” to Israel.  Sort of underscores the fascist mindset of Zionism.

While the dixie chicks who deserve a medal of some kind, blacklists are a real problem.  Here’s one I came across.

http://www.masada2000.org/dirt-list.html

No problem, Ernest, I wasn’t coming down on you at all. I’ve read enough of your stuff to know you’re one of the ‘good guys’.

Keep on keepin’ on, friend.

Whoa there Paul, you need to lighten up a bit.  My statement about not remembering the 60s was merely tongue-in cheek humor.  Most people accuse me of being to the left of Ralph Nader rather than someone who parrots neocon propaganda.

RE: #112044 by Ernest Canning on 11/06 at 11:28 pm
(1048 comments total)

“Thanks for the title and singer Paul, but you know what they say about the 60s?  If you can remember them, you weren’t there.”

Well I certainly WAS there, Ernest, and believe your statement is just MSM neo-CON promoted propaganda designed to marginalize people like us. It’s a quote from one of OURS not one of THEIRS, intended as humor rather than a put down. 

From a memory like an elephant going back to age three & having the nads to go travel during a very interesting/confusing time in human existence, research & study of history using eclectic sources, and despite undergoing 4 brain surgeries & more than my share of chemical ‘experiments’ (the two not related), I find my grasp of what has happened in the past, as well as where civilization is headed improving almost daily.

Ever the optimist, in the vein of Voltaire’s “Candide”, yet failing in the intense good fortune of Forrest Gump, I still hold hope for the social evolution of humanity. That good must always triumph over evil (God over Devil if one prefers the religious derivatives)is a given, and to come back to the point of this article, also why the Dixie Chicks have rebounded higher despite seemingly insurmountable Zionist controlled MSM obstacles placed in their way.

Spike Lee had it right in the movie title “Do the Right Thing”, a personal philosophy of living I had condensed long before the movie to “DO RIGHT” (although that word should always be interpreted directionally & morally rather than politically.

Although the writing on the wall indicates we are in for a very bumpy future ride, what is the point of carrying on if we don’t hold to the belief Shakespeare was correct in stating “The truth will out.”?

RE: #111964 by Colorado on 11/06 at 12:32 pm
(Unregistered commenter)

“And this article confirms there is a blacklist in hollywood today?  And who is behind this blacklist?”

Well you asked so here it is:

http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/

Thanks for the title and singer Paul, but you know what they say about the 60s?  If you can remember them, you weren’t there.

Colorado,
If you do not agree with the article and do not believe their is a blacklist in hollywood today, why do you not be more specific, oh my, oh my.

You don’t want to waste your time, Unreal. oh my, oh my, Unreal, Like where are you Colorado, why are you here? Oh my Unreal? Amazing the comments from individuals and add to this journalism?  Oh my!

Yes you made a point Colorado and it is on top of your head.
Oh My was McCarthy real or unreal?

Paracelsus on 11/06 at 4:55 pm
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Ralph Schoenmann, a Jewish man, crystallizes for me the illegitimacy of the nation of Israel.  BTW, Palestine as a protectorate of Britain had an immigration policy during the interregnum that ignored the wishes of the Palestinian people. All the usual claptrap about the Palestinian Arabs being anti-Semites was used to argue for an open border policy in Palestine. I think that the nation of Israel should be dissolved and all Jews given Commonwealth passports and British citizenship. This was a problem caused by the elites of the Anglo aristocracy. They are the real rulers of the USA through their shadow governments. The CFR, and the Bilderbergers are the true governments and they give their pronouncements to those in the apparent governments. Please read Francis Bacon’s The New Atlantis. He foresaw in 1598, the rise of a puppet republic in the British colonies of North America.

What an IDIOT!  By that standard of logic, every US and Canadian citizen who isn’t “Native American” should be given a British passport, and the United States and Canada dissolved.  That would also solve the immigration problem. 

It sounds really stupid when you change the context from one “usurper”, Israel, to another “usurper”, the United States.

And, like most hypocrits who dictate what’s right for OTHER people you’ll bitch and moan and whine when it happens to you.

#111933 by RBS

http://takingaimradio.com/hhz/index.htm

Ralph Schoenmann, a Jewish man, crystallizes for me the illegitimacy of the nation of Israel.  BTW, Palestine as a protectorate of Britain had an immigration policy during the interregnum that ignored the wishes of the Palestinian people. All the usual claptrap about the Palestinian Arabs being anti-Semites was used to argue for an open border policy in Palestine. I think that the nation of Israel should be dissolved and all Jews given Commonwealth passports and British citizenship. This was a problem caused by the elites of the Anglo aristocracy. They are the real rulers of the USA through their shadow governments. The CFR, and the Bilderbergers are the true governments and they give their pronouncements to those in the apparent governments. Please read Francis Bacon’s The New Atlantis. He foresaw in 1598, the rise of a puppet republic in the British colonies of North America.

Ernest, the songwriter was Country Joe McDonald. He’s still around and still against war as a solution to our problems.

Ernest,

It’s the ‘Feel Like I’m Fixin’ To Die Rag’ by Country Joe and the Fish, a great San Francisco group I saw many times when I lived out there from 1968-1972. (two blocks from the intersection of Haight & Asbury Sts)

I’m impressed you remembered the words...you ole Hippie you...and that’s a compliment, because despite the Reich Wing/Right Wing spin of those days the Hippies were right in many ways about a number of concepts.

CY, perhaps its a matter of age bias, but I really think a better set of anti-war songs emerged in the 60s and early seventies.  Peter, Paul & Mary’s “Where have all the flowers gone” led the way in 1962.  Dylan’s “Universal Soldier” is a classic that applies to “war” period.  But I can’t even recall the name of the one that bore those sarcastically biting lyrics:

“Well, it’s one, two, three
What are we fightin’ for
Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam
And it’s five, six, seven
Open up the Pearly Gates
Ain’t no time to wonder why,
Whoppee we’re all gonna die.”

@ #111578 by Leefeller

No one here would say that the Dixie Chicks deserved this blacklisting and slander. In Nazi Germany an entertainer would die an unexplained suicide for politically unpopular views. Have you heard of the Swing Kids? The Soviet Union was no different. Frequently a tyranny accuses others of its own crimes. The Pinks in Hollywood had not responsibility for the arming of the Communists in North Vietnam during the closing months of WW2. This was accomplished by our own Army in Iowa Jima. The Chinese Maoists were well supplied by Western corporations while Kiang Chai Chek forces were under an UN arms embargo. Los Alamos an dthe Pentagon had long had “misshipments” of Uranium 235 and bomb plans to the Soviet Union. Julius and Ethel Rosenbergs were
the Wen Ho Lee’s of their time. So if our media and our government accuses the Dixie Chicks of aiding terrorists by their words and actions, then you must know that the accuser is actually the accused.
I would speculate that the high cabal has long experimented with different forms of scientific dictatorship.

RE: #111629 by Conservative Yankee on 11/04 at 2:15 pm
(Unregistered commenter)

You wrote:
“Since evangical Xtianity springs from an evolution of the Xtian experience is it unreasonable to feel the xtians have a responsibility & duty to reign in these wayward anti-social people?”

CY, I reiterate from my post:
“I am tolerant of all people’s religions, but subscribe to none of their organized efforts myself.”

To clarify, I am not opposed to the philosophical foundations of religions, which I perceive as necessary to provide moral & ethical guides as to how to treat your fellow human beings. I am opposed to organized religion, however, since they take good concepts from far seeing prophets and warp/pervert them into businesses seeking only profits & domination of populaces. Regardless of choice of worship it is a sad fact we all now have our ‘cross to bear’ (so to speak). Although your reply had a sarcastic intent, I don’t believe we are really that far apart in a common shared belief religion & politics have now combined into some bizarre & dangerous form of mass dementia, and regardless of spiritual inclination theocratic forms of government represent a ‘clear & present danger’ to all of us.

To return focus to the article at hand (somehow the discussion went tangential, but not completely abstracted just distracted a bit), the ‘Dixie Chicking’ of the Dixie Chicks, although primarily by fundamentalist Christians, is indicative of a propensity by ALL religions to stifle free speech, free will, free thought, and free choice, in order to bring errant patrons back into the fold of dogmatic conformist enslavement/control.

Although a ‘son of the south’ I’m not a big country fan, but will always hold the Dixie Chicks in highest esteem for bravely eduring a temporary sacrifice to stand up to this fascist attempt to tyranize artists. In the long run their courage has gained them well deserved awards, a wider more respectful audience, rebounded record & concert sales, but most importantly their self-respect. Hold your heads high girls/ladies/CHICKS, you deserve it.

Since neoconism springs from the thighs of opportunism, and runs rampant like mad dogma, those who are not neocons, have no power to reign in their selfish bent than a Jewish person has to reign in a Zionist. Even though we would hope that neither existed.

ITW & PH, enough of this already. It’s not a matter of who was Jewish or not. The real enemy of humanity is the Zionists, many of whom are not even Jewish.

On the other hand the Jewish claim of being ‘the chosen people’ must be understood to carry with it responsibility to do something FOR the human race, rather than just TO it. Now I understand there is a great divide between Torah Jews and Zionists, the latter preferring to TAKE rather than patiently wait for God to GIVE.

For the curous I am what might be referred to as a WASSP (white Anglo Saxon spiritual person). I am tolerant of all people’s religions, but subscribe to none of their organized efforts myself. I AM, however, opposed to Zionists, who I see as a greater threat to the human race than any particular religion, or combinations of religious peoples.

Since Zionism springs from an evolution of the Jewish experience is it unreasonable to feel the Jewish community has a rsponsibility & duty to rein in these wayward anti-social people?

Well the fact that McCarthy did what he did was reprehensible and heinous, his destruction of peoples lives on conjecture and hearsay and lets name it what it was, a witch hunt. Black listing the Dixie Chicks, is a relative tactic to swiftboating.  Freedom of speech means mass media and programed bias, linked to special interests; after all they are one; attempts to destroy disagreeing peoples lives, seems their needs to be a line drawn in the sand. 

What would have happened if the mass media had supported the Dixie Chicks instead of trying to discredit them?  Truth must not be told, especially in public, so the Dixie Chicks could have lied and said they were happy with Bush a fellow Texan and are proud he is our president.  Well they didn’t and they said how they felt about Bush. 

Republicans send out attack dogs like, Ann Colter or Fat Russ spewing hate and lies, but the Dixie Chicks cannot state feelings or opinions?

Black listing is just one small tactic, all part of the greater plan, just another part of the attack on the Constitution and destruction of peoples rights and liberties.

ITW,

Lenin was an ethnic jew - an athesist, close to being an agnostic like you.

You wrote:

“You really should learn that people will put anything on the web they want.  That doesn’t make it true”.
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Your personal attacks on me in a nutshell and in your own words.

PatrickHenry on 11/03 at 7:20 pm
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You really should learn that people will put anything on the web they want.  That doesn’t make it true. 

Now you are telling us that you believe in biological racism--Lenin was baptized Russian Orthodox and raised as such, but that he still had “corrupted” blood because he MIGHT have had a Jewish grandparent.

Of course, that’s no surprise coming from a KKK ignorant redneck, that you would follow Hitler’s biological racism and HIS definition of a “Jew”.

#111465 by Inherit The Wind

“Your blanket unquestioning use of web sites tell you Lenin was a Jew.  He was not. He was a lower-level aristocrat--not a drop of Jew in him.  Of course, his friend and comrade, Trotsky was a Jew, but not Lenin--so your facts are wrong, as usual”.
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And as usual you stand corrected again.

http://www.adherents.com/people/pl/Vladimir_Lenin.html

PatrickHenry on 11/03 at 12:08 pm
(272 comments total)

What is your brand of judaism ITW?  ethnic or religious? Sephartic or Ashkenazi or are you one of the big mouth New Yorker type trolls, you talk like one.

And there’s this...

PatrickHenry on 11/03 at 2:58 pm
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I do agree with Paracelsus post #11147 that alot of the true military-industrialist families need to be exposed.  They’re still in action today.

Your hatred, ignorance, bigotry and flat-out stupidity continue to astound me. Your blanket unquestioning use of web sites tell you Lenin was a Jew.  He was not. He was a lower-level aristocrat--not a drop of Jew in him.  Of course, his friend and comrade, Trotsky was a Jew, but not Lenin--so your facts are wrong, as usual.

Meanwhile, Ethel Rosenberg’s brother, David Greenglass admitted he lied when he testified against his sister--he was caught--either his wife or his sister.  He saved his wife.  Ethel Rosenberg was murdered and was innocent.

Julius MAY have been guilty, but he was a machinist and probably not able to even RECOGNIZE atomic bomb plans if he saw them.

Again, your facts are wrong, your ignorance revealed.

#111414 by FFURKS

Leefellers post #111163 ended,

“I guess McCarthy should have been after the jewish people instead of the communists”?

My point was that they were the communists.

I don’t agree with Semitic rewriting of history.

I do agree with Paracelsus post #11147 that alot of the true military-industrialist families need to be exposed.  They’re still in action today.

@ #111389 by Leefeller on 11/03 at 7:24 am
(473 comments total)

Well it is nice to know that, explains McCarthy was really just a bigot.  He did his whole circle jerk only to attack 2 percent of the population.
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I think that McCarthy erred in his jihad in going after the little people. You will notice that he was only stopped in his tracks when he tried to investigate the US Army. Instead of going after a bunch talented Jews he should have investigated the roles of wealthy ruling families in supporting Communism in Russia and China. I think he had good reason to suspect infiltration in the military and the State Dept. Instead he went after a good many naive good hearted people in the media.

To be fair Marx was supported by many wealthy Englishmen, who liked his ideas. That a large number of Jews were Communists should not obscure the fact that most Jews are not Communists. I do not think most conservative, orthodox, reform and reconstructionist Jews would feel comfortable living in a society that overlooks merit and talent in rewarding the goods of the economy. Aristocratic England is famous for setting up loony causes that seem to come from nowhere. Zionist Christianity has it roots in London gentlemen’s clubs. The key feature of communism is its ability to destroy the middle class as well as setting up authoritarian governments. I think of the era of the 1930’s as gentleman’s bet to see which system worked best in efficiency, fascism or communism.

The Mcarthy hearings came about because of the Rosenbergs (an american jewish family) sold the Soviet Union the secrets to the A-Bomb.

The list of ethnic jews (atheists) who were communists begins with Karl Marx and Lenin and flows down from there.

Truth hurts some, but all you have to do is computer search on Jewish communists and you can find out for yourself.

What is your brand of judaism ITW?  ethnic or religious? Sephartic or Ashkenazi or are you one of the big mouth New Yorker type trolls, you talk like one.

PatrickHenry on 11/03 at 7:04 am
(266 comments total)

Most of the communists were jews.

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You’ll post horseshit like this, then bitch and whine and make snotty remarks when your basic KKK persona is noted.

You don’t LIKE being called a neo-nazi KKK bigot? Then stop posting racist and bigoted crap that you do.

You troll for the racists, but are too much of a coward to ADMIT what you are.

If Patrick Henry were alive he’d drop dead to see a Benedict Arnold like you besmirching his name and legacy.

The subject of Israel and the jews who unconditionally support it is a preeminent subject of social importance in this country which emcompasses the control of the media and campaign finance of our lawmakers. Together, these issues formulate our domestic and foreign policy which if you haven’t noticed lately, sucks.

Leefeller, I see by your “stale” comments ascribing others views as anti-semite (which I could care less) you use the same buzzwords KKK, bigoted, Israel bashing, etc.  It’s like you are using the same script as the Troll patrol which posts here.

No one more than I would like to see Israel turn their swords into plowshares, make peace with their neighbors and turn down any aid from the United States.  In the same breath I would like to see anti trust action in the media to ensure it is truely unbiased and not preferential to any race, religion, sex or creed as any employer knows is discrimminatory.

Well it is nice to know that, explains McCarthy was really just a bigot.  He did his whole circle jerk only to attack 2 percent of the population.

#111163 by Leefeller

Most of the communists were jews.

weather,

Corporate lobbies have undue influence on our government, the simple fact bigoted people disregard all the other lobbies and tunnel vision focus on Israel is clear deep seated bigotry.  Attempting to connect and blame Judaism, Israel or any other ethnic group for the problems within our country, is nothing but smoke and mirrors.  Hitler revisited, deception the key. 

Even though I disagree with Feinstein and Schumer on voting for the neocon choice as AG, the low road attack on their names is exactly what I am talking about.  Disagreeing on the issue is relevant, attacking ones ethnicity is not. 

Yes I may be stale only because I do not agree with your refreshing bigotry.  Israel bashing is just another necon tool to subtract focus from the truth.

Let me make it clear, it is the Israel bashing that is stale, not the posts on topic, seems as if TD has been caucused by the KKK, maybe I have been here to long and have become stale. So be it!

leefeller, what motivated Chuck"drama queen"Schumer and Feinstein to push Mukasey the waterboarding enigma for AG?

When you have the courage to confront that question and ponder what it says about their character then you’re ready to accept that its you who’s stale and these posts are as fresh as it gets.

Turning every post on TD into some sort of Jewish bashing feasts is really getting stale.  This kind of bigoted bull is what Hitler did, I find it reprehensible, not because the jewish people are perfect, but as a group they are individuals who like any other have different opinions from each other.  The Japanese internment camps are a prime example of bigoted misanthropic actions, why were there no German internment camps? 

Blind Prejudices like blind faith require nothing more than ignorance, the opposite of enlightenment a common and easy recipe to direct the lemmings approach to self demise, the main purpose taking the focus off and away from the real problems, and I suppose that is the grand tactic we see on these posts. 

So, I guess McCarthy should have been after the jewish people instead of the communists?

One solution to diversifying media.

I think if Christians would like to consume media that is not centered on that dominated by Jews, that it would be up to them to found a movie industry in a city friendly to them. Perhaps Memphis, Tennessee would be a good location as it already serves as an area for Country and Western. A Christian owner could set forth a corporate culture that Christian talent would flock to. The important thing is that corporate control would be kept in Christian hands. This would mean that a public corporation would have to be closely held by majority owners. Or the movie studio would be a private concern. I think if Christians wan t media that reflects values that are Disney like then they should be as entrepreneurial and risk taking as their Jewish cousins in Hollywood. I think that those in a majority culture and religion tend to get complacent and risk shy as compared to a group of people who have always considered themselves outsiders. After all isn’t the word chutzpah used very often in Hollywood itself. Also Christians need to be able to toot their own horns, but too often they are taught to be humble and meek. I think the attitudes of the evangelical community could be very helpful in this regard. If you as a Christian are tired of movies portraying every preacher as a Lonesome Roades stereotype in The Movies, then it is up to you to create your own media.

One solution to diversifying media.

I think if Christians would like to consume media that is not centered on that dominated by Jews, that it would be up to them to found a movie industry in a city friendly to them. Perhaps Memphis, Tennessee would be a good location as it already serves as an area for Country and Western. A Christian owner could set forth a corporate culture that Christian talent would flock to. The important thing is that corporate control would be kept in Christian hands. This would mean that a public corporation would have to be closely held by majority owners. Or the movie studio would be a private concern. I think if Christians wan t media that reflects values that are Disney like then they should be as entrepreneurial and risk taking as their Jewish cousins in Hollywood. I think that those in a majority culture and religion tend to get complacent and risk shy as compared to a group of people who have always considered themselves outsiders. After all isn’t the word chutzpah used very often in Hollywood itself. Also Christians need to be able to toot their own horns, but too often they are taught to be humble and meek. I think the attitudes of the evangelical community could be very helpful in this regard. If you as a Christian are tired of movies portraying every preacher as Randy Roades stereotype in The Movies, then it is up to you to create your own media.

Is it possible that to have one ethnic/religious group in ownership of media is not all that healthy? Suppose mostly Irish Catholics owned movie studios in Hollywood. We would see loads of movies with Popes as heroes. You would never see any movies about Queen Elizabeth the First. You might see a ton load of comedies involving nuns. No one would ever see a movie about the inquisition. You might be see movies where Protestants realize The Truth. There would be a ton of media stories of baby being christened by priests. These would interwoven into comedies and movies as well. There would tons of movies on the Potato Famine. There might even be movements asking for reparations for Irish Famines of the 1840’s. There might even be some ugly movies and films of Mohls infecting little boys by accident from a clumsy bris. I am not knocking Judaism. I just don’t think it is good to have one religious ethnic group to predominate the culture industry, which consumed by the whole country. I think media is healthy if there are all kinds of different cultures in control of their own movie studios, newspapers, and television stations. I don’t think it is healthy for one ethnic cultural group to monopolistically pervade the culture industry. I don’t have any ideas to solve this problem.

well look what happens when one speaks the truth. last time i remember we all had the freedom of speech and the right to our opions.  whatever something is said political, it always leads to some sort of drama.  Lets talk drama, the US gov has spent billions on the war in Iraq but has managed to do very little for the US. for example the SCHIP program and hell new orleans is still a mess.  Its all about the war!!  nothing else.  just imagine what programs could have been repaired or improved by not having to spend billions on a war in Iraq, for which we always be there, just like we are in Bosnia and vietnam still.

If Dixie-Chicking has its own meaning then Bushing has a very wide meaning, including lying, deceiving, distorting, pandering, exploiting, pontificating and puppeting.

No CY, I was quoting Bill Moyers.  He seems to have borrowed the phrase from Spiro.

When I first began practicing law, I worked for a guy who had been served in the Justice Dept. under Robert Kennedy and, as a young lawyer, was one of the attorneys who prosecuted Hoffa.  He taught me that the turning point in a case is to wait for your opponent to make a verbal mistake, then beat him over the head with it.

In this case, Agnew had referred to “nattering nabobs of negativism"--I kind of 60s version of the hard right’s “they hate America” label they hang on anyone who would dare question dubya’s policies.  Moyers turned the phrase around by referring to “nattering nabobs of know-nothing radio"--an obvious reference to Rush Limbaugh and his ditto heads.  Moyers borrowed a hard-right phrase, then beat them over the head with it.  In the context of his full quote, I thought it pretty effective.

Re#110287 by PJ on 10/29 at 12:52 pm:

But pj, you still didn’t answer the question:  Which “one God” are you talking about?  I’m sure that with your oh so witty rejoinder, “idiots like you” you must be oh so smart and therefore aware that mankind has invented THOUSANDS of “Gods”, so which manmade “one God” are you using to justify your condemnation of people who do not share YOUR manmade “one God”? 

Would it be the manmade “one God” that justifies burning the CDs of people whose feces you aren’t fit to eat? Would it be the manmade “one God” that justifies porking little boys?  Would it be the manmade “one God” that justifies snorting crack after oral sex with a male prostitute?  Would it be the manmade “one God” that justifies building a “University” then getting “spiritual” with the young male atheletes?  Or would it be the manmade “one God” that justifies flying airplanes into buildings?  How about the manmade “one God” that justifies killing traverlers?

You see, pj, there are THOUSANDS of “one Gods”. So, you need to be very specific about which “one God” you want to bless America and damn everyone who doesn’t agree with little old you. If you would take some time out from your enthusiatic research on inbreeding you would have a greater understanding of things other than inhaling the fumes of burning CDs.  You would also find that the reason so many disagree with you is that, unlike you, our parents weren’t related.  That’s why we know there are no gods, manmade or otherwise.

Hey Er